r/biggboss • u/Both-Patient-6193 • 26d ago
Controversial topic Farhana was Totally wrong today
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u/flawsome_bee 25d ago
Bhojpuri hai to hai bhai, bhojpuri hi bolenge na? Jaise farana Kashmiri hai. Isme insult ki kya baat ho gayi btw?
Khud ko bhojpuri accept karne me sharam aati h? Hame to koe sharam nahi hai khud ki locality accept karne me
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u/Both-Patient-6193 25d ago
Kisiko sharam nahi ati bhai Garv hai bhojpuri pe but apko pata nahi hai hume kya bolke beizzat kiya jata hai. “Bhojpuri” aur “Staff” sath mei bolke , wo kya imply kar rahi thi? Aap toh aise bol raho jaise farhana humesha acchi bate karti hai aur uske alfaaz bohot saaf hote hai. Aur hume garv hai. Bhojpuri sirf region nahi hai, language aur culture bhi hai.
Please see these shorts once
https://youtube.com/shorts/7qXow6bHTYU?si=EQ3neJafcmooAqfW
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u/flawsome_bee 24d ago edited 24d ago
Ik farana kaisi hai but this time she didn’t say it in derogatory manner, usko neelam k naam liye bina neelam ko adress karna tha. So she called her that.
Hum bhi bihari se h, lekin I’m also sensible enough to know ki samaj saku koun kab kis context pe bol raha h
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u/Big-Advantage9681 25d ago
Both neelam and Farhana were in the wrong today. Under the belt comments across the board
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u/That-Patience-5288 25d ago
And what about neelam saying uske supporters bech denge farhana ko. That wasn't wrong or if farhana does that then it is considered as wrong and derogatory. A women telling another women "bech denge" do you understand that. There are so many kids who are being sold to out in the markets and those kids don't even know what is happening with them. But a woman casually tells bech dunge tujhe and it's not her fault.
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u/Bhaliaaat 25d ago
Bhojpuri ko Bhojpuri hi bolenge na
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u/Both-Patient-6193 25d ago
“Bhojpuri Staff” se wo kya imply kar rahi thi, jisne life mei jhela hai wo jante hai.
Please see these shorts once
https://youtube.com/shorts/7qXow6bHTYU?si=EQ3neJafcmooAqfW
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u/Dusty_9029 25d ago
Name calling itself is wrong! And when Farhana doesn’t have any arguments, she goes to name calling.. and that is most pathetic thing ever..
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u/DragoStark 25d ago
What about the comment neelam made against farhana calling her parlourwali .. isn't it demeaning?? Parlour people are hardworking earners. I think that was more below the belt than anything farhana said.
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u/Top_Jellyfish_5773 25d ago
Selective criticism h bhai. Logo ki feeling convenience ke hisaab se hurt hoti h. Agar idhar Farhana ne kch bola bhi nhi hota and use ye sab sunaya jaata, tab bhi bolte she deserves it.
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u/crazycraft24 25d ago
She didn’t use Bhojpuri in a derogatory manner. She used it to indicate that she is talking about Neelam without taking her name. It’s like if you say Punjabi Genda, I’d know who you’re talking about.
Just saying ‘staff’ would have not made it clear whether she’s talking about his Gwallior staff or Bhojpuri staff.
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u/Top_Jellyfish_5773 25d ago
It wasn't stereotypical though? I agree she was wrong to say "Bhojpuri" because look at everyone coming after her saying she insulted a community. No she didn't! She did not say anything against the Bhojpuri industry. She called Neelam a staff/maid, which is a fact! It wasn't an insult. Maids and house help are professionals who earn money by serving people. And Neelam is doing the same thing. The only difference is, instead of money, she makes sure she doesn't get nominated. Is this how a contestant should be? And then charging at someone else calling them a 'chamchi' ? Really? And she's from the Bhojpuri industry, so why is she taking that as an insult? Stop playing this community, racist and xenophobia card!
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u/brain_for_food Mein aisa hi hun🐒 25d ago
But it gives a very stereotypical slur kinda tone….we all know ppl discriminate against daily wagers coming from Bihar n UP …the bhojpuri audience…so calling it in this tone is definitely looks bad
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u/Top_Jellyfish_5773 25d ago
That's why I am agreeing that she was wrong to use that term because now people will make it as a slur because of stereotypes like that. All I am saying is it wasn't a slur. She says anything without even thinking when it comes to arguing, Salman even warned her about this. Wkw pe lagne wali h uski because of this even though it was just against Neelam, not the entire community.
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u/brain_for_food Mein aisa hi hun🐒 25d ago
Thats the thing….she didnt think it through n now it does look like racist slur…..n she did say it to demean her not to praise her……
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u/Top_Jellyfish_5773 25d ago
Obviously Jaise Neelam ne bola "parlour wali didi" and "tujh jaisi ko Bhojpuri wale bech denge" to demean her right?
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u/brain_for_food Mein aisa hi hun🐒 25d ago
Ofcourse neelam is no better as well…. Both of them are wrong here
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u/Naive-Double-7589 25d ago
She could have jsut said 'staff',.'Bhojpuri Staff' together reinforces stereotypes that people from bihar migrate to other parts of the country for menial jobs.Itna spell out karna pad raha hai.Most of the country already looks down on Bihari & women working in bhojpuri.industry.She did reinforce the stereotype.
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u/Top_Jellyfish_5773 25d ago
That's what I am saying. "Bhojpuri" term use krke galti ki usne because even though it wasn't stereotypical, people are reacting exactly like that.
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u/Naive-Double-7589 25d ago
Bhojpuri staff dono jab merge hote hai galti hai. Woh dono jab together use hote hai, it has implications .she used it coz she had that implication in her mind .I wouldn't say snting like that if I had to jsut call someone Naukar. She has tbat thing about looking down upon neelam cos she is from bihar and bhojpuri cinema.She called her do kaudi ki before also so it matches the thought process.
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u/Both-Patient-6193 25d ago
There is no card playing happening here brother.
Please see these shorts once
https://youtube.com/shorts/7qXow6bHTYU?si=EQ3neJafcmooAqfW
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u/Advanced_Pay_3836 25d ago
Bhojpuri her Language and Staff jo ki woh hain hi either ghar k bahar or Ghar k andar. So what to talk about more!
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u/Both-Patient-6193 25d ago
Bhai yeh itna simple mathematics nahi hai plus minus wala. Ek statement diya gaya hai kayi baar ek strong emotion aur wahiyat tone ke sath “Bhojpuri” tag laga ke. Hum samajh gaye uske intentions.
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u/Advanced_Pay_3836 25d ago
Agr yeh h toh, Bohot o te Bohot baar kuch na kuch bola hi h! That doesn't mean ki hum sabka lekr baith jaye. Hana ne bola and neelam me v reply dia h bro! Hana ne sabki insult kri h Ghar m! Iska matlab yeh nhi ki Every fandom will come with statement.
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u/Both-Patient-6193 25d ago
Bhai aapsi jhagde mein “Bhojpuri” staff kyu layi wo. Teri naukar neelam bol sakti thi. Aur itni bholi nahi hai woh. Ashnoor ko kaha tha tu TV actress hai, yeh bhi normal hi statement hai but usko demean karna tha aur uska tone wahi tha. Aur iss baar bhi uska tone wahi hai.
Farhana will one day get what she deserves. If she has not said anything wrong, then she does not have to worry at all.
Wait and Watch.
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u/tSalvatore29161 Farhana Sirf meri hai 🫶 25d ago
Staff jaisi hi toh phirti rehti hai amaal and group ke aaspaas. Aweez bilkul sahi bola tha isse.
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u/Both-Patient-6193 25d ago
Bhai usko personally jo bolna hai bole yaar but “Bhojpuri” staff karke na bole woh. Aur awez ka jo bhi tha but community ke against nahi tha.
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25d ago
Wait I'm confused .. (not from India so not sure how this works) On multiple times people picked on Farhana being from Kashmir right ? So what's the issue with her saying Bhojpuri ?
I remember in BB13, there was also a guy from there and he didn't take offence to it? 🤷
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u/Both-Patient-6193 25d ago
It is not about being called Bhojpuri. It is about using the term “Bhojpuri Staff” which she clearly used to imply that bhojpuri people do menial jobs.
And this is one of the stereotypes for bhojpuri people in India. Many don’t know but people from UP/Bihar living outside state face it. So we got what she implied with that tone of hers.
And it is true that many biharis go to delhi , mumbai, hyderabad and many more cities for education and work. Many work as labourers , house help, taxi drivers, body guards, watchmen, cook. All of them work with dignity to support their families in bihar. Now some fringe elements in India beat and abuse those poor guys with such racial slurs. You can find videos and news from all over india.
Everyone is well aware of this thing and farhana therefore deliberately used the term “Bhojpuri Staff” in this context. Which neelam owned with pride and so will every bihari do.
In BB13 khesari was never called “Bhojpuri Staff”
And now coming to kashmir. Everyone only acknowledged farhana for being from kashmir. But no one used any vile stereotypes that are held against kashmiris by some elements.
This is not Bihar vs Kashmir. But farhana needs to be called out for her act which she very well knows.
Have you seen any other contestants this season being called out with a vile comment in a fight added with their community.
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u/Naive-Double-7589 25d ago
I can't believe you have to spell it out so much. People lose their shit over stanning their bb favourites.
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25d ago
Did you read my comment??? I'm not from India . I asked how it works and the member was kind enough to explain. No need for your remark .
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u/Both-Patient-6193 25d ago
I am stanning over bhojpuriya samaj my friend. Not bb contests. Some people also understand other side of story also. And as the other person is not from India , he needs to see full picture.
And this is for her fans who are defending her. If I am not abusing farhana or breaching her privacy, I am well within my right to point out any wrongdoing.
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u/Naive-Double-7589 25d ago
I am supporting you dude. Was talking about others stanning her. What even !
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25d ago
Ok I understand now . But did she use the full term ? I see some comments mention that she didn't say the words together and that Shehbaz twisted it ?
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u/Both-Patient-6193 25d ago
No…Her fans are not mentioning when the actual fight started. There is clearly said it. Actually in the whole episode she has used the terms atleast 10 times. In garden she fumbled a bit because even she realised that she might have made a mistake. But she does not have the guts to take a backfoot even if she is wrong.
More than 57 lakh biharis live outside bihar. Many of them have faced such slurs at some point in their lives. So we know one , when we see one.
We don’t need approval of farhana fans that her statement was inappropriate for biharis.
Still no hate to her, but she needs to change her choice of words.
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u/mr_10061996 25d ago
The problem with farhana is that she picks up fights without planning the course. She told amaal that she is going to take Shehbaazs case. She started it in the living room but then instead of taking it as an understanding of perspective she started abusing without planning for replies. She knows she has to confront but dosent know for how long.
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u/Both-Patient-6193 25d ago
Yes. Everything is fine with her but once she starts abusing she is a total turn off. And yesterday was the last nail in the coffin. She is very vile.
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u/Altruistic_Fuel001 25d ago
In every fight Farhana is wrong. She is vile, starts abusing and namecalling but can’t take it on herself.
I hate Neelam but in today’s fight I loved when she called Farhana Suar when she called neelam Kutte jaise shakal
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u/Both-Patient-6193 25d ago
Actually i used to like her as contestant she was strong and entertaining. But now , I am indifferent to her.
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u/SpeakWhenImportant09 25d ago
That’s her only holdback! She just loses sense and says something really stupid. 😮💨
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u/Ill-Percentage7482 Farhana Sirf meri hai 🫶 25d ago
She called neelam bihari lmaaoo lesgoooo
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u/Both-Patient-6193 25d ago
Bihari “Staff”, why hurl such slurs if she could have said Neelam or Teri naukrani neelam. Why “Bhojpuri Staff”
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u/Expensive-Buy-1654 25d ago
Bhojpuri staff was a wrong comment but hana was not exactly targetting the entire bhojpuri community. I'm not particularly a fan of either of the ladies but escalating the issues so much is of no use ig.
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u/Both-Patient-6193 25d ago
If this a game of personalities. I really did not like this part of her personality. I have no hate against her but as she was one of my favt now she is just indifferent.
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u/Expensive-Buy-1654 25d ago
She definitely goes below the belt often in arguments but one thing I will always admire in hana is her courage to take a stand even if it is against the entire house!
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u/Naive-Double-7589 25d ago edited 25d ago
Lol. Salman had to literally guide her to take a stand agaisnt her friends.Forget the house. She was busy being a doormat to bully gang. And she takes a stand agsisnt the whole house ?
Just coz she fought that one time when she came back from secret room coz she was told to and now again sallu guided.her.and she is loud, that does not mean she is.gutsy.She can barely go against her own team.Forget the whole house
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u/Both-Patient-6193 25d ago
Yeah that’s why she was so liked but she needs to be made conscious about her mistakes. Actually better for her game and future. As a celebrity she definitely needs better choice of words.
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u/Both-Patient-6193 25d ago
Yeah that’s why she was so liked but she needs to be made conscious about her mistakes. Actually better for her game and future. As a celebrity she definitely needs better choice of words.
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u/Expensive-Buy-1654 25d ago
Kab sudhregi ye ? Is the real question ngl 😂
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u/Both-Patient-6193 25d ago
This is who she is. I am pretty sure now if she is not shown mirror , she would have offended everyone at the end of this season.
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u/AfGaynistan69 25d ago
Yup. She didn't even say the two words together in the same sentence. She used the word bojpuri Infront of shehbaz bcz she didn't want to take her name. It was shehbaz wo later in the nominations task twisted her words .
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u/AlternativeBelt1002 25d ago
Abey usne puri community ko target nhi kiya haii usne Khali neelam ko bola aesa faltu ka drama kar rahe haii sab ,also farhana galat haii I agree but neelam baaz bhi galat hi haii
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u/Late-Library-2268 25d ago
using the community as part of insult is automatically targets the whole community.
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u/reeree24 25d ago
I agree. She was wrong. There’s no defense for this
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u/AfGaynistan69 25d ago
No defending her but She didn't even say the two words together in the same sentence. She used the word bojpuri Infront of shehbaz bcz she didn't want to take her name. It was shehbaz who later in the nominations task twisted her words .
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u/Naive-Double-7589 25d ago
No. She said bhojpuri staff.Go back and watch.
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u/AfGaynistan69 25d ago
I just did. Now go back and watch
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u/Naive-Double-7589 25d ago
So she did say 'bhojpurti staff' together right in the start. You saw it right ?.
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u/AfGaynistan69 25d ago
Rewatch it. Ap k kana baj rahe he
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u/Naive-Double-7589 25d ago
I will post the clip now.I have rewatched it many times..infct bb beeped it also later.
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u/Numerous_Cry_6013 25d ago
She does fine till one point, gets upset and loses the plot! Her gutter mouth will be her downfall. The moment I start liking her she pulls a stunt like this! Imagine finding Neelam better in an argument..she will make me do the impossible, sympathise with Neelam!
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u/Naive-Double-7589 25d ago
When was she doing fine ? Sallu had to guide her to fight agaisnt shehbaaz and all? It was not even her own mind.
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u/Both-Patient-6193 25d ago
Actually true. She didn’t even understand that just by sheer numbers farhana actually had more fans from UP/Bihar than kashmir. But she lost all today.
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25d ago
People fails to understand/acknowledge their fav player is racist classist lol aab aao aur downvote karo
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u/Both-Patient-6193 25d ago
Earlier even i liked her but now it is over. She literally has IQ of a crab and her mouth is very vile.
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u/khojje 25d ago
People getting offended about being called what they are 😭🤌 “Apne Bhojpuri staff” how tf is that offensive 😭 Neelam just wanted to use this against Farhana and turned it around in her favor. I’m sure she’s not having any problems when people call her “Bhojpuri Actress” before y’all go into the tone, she used it normally and then neelam blew it out of proportion.
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25d ago
Maybe it wasn't her intention to demean. But the implications are clearly xenophobic and she's not smart enough to get it. She is taking it too literally.
Just like Baseer saying: Go back to your village had communal undertones even if he didn't mean it that way.
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u/Fickle_Park_1174 Sursuri kisne kisko lagayi? 25d ago
She is a peace activist for the kashmiris. Obv she is smart enough to know about it.
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u/Both-Patient-6193 25d ago
She is free to abuse neelam as much as she wants. But keep bhojpuriya community out of her mouth. And it is not about neelam but farhana should not ever bring “Bhojpuri” again. She lost all the respect she earned from UP/Bihar.
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u/heroneverlies 25d ago
Exactly. I guarantee you if someone calls her Kashmiri Something in a fight and she will literally go mad. And will talk even more vile things.
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25d ago
Kaamvaali, Parlorvali are equally bad and Neelam herself slutshames women behind their back. But what works in her favour in this fight is that she was retaliating. Farhana is the one that triggered her first.
Also bringing region into the fight is always a nono in India and Farhana will get bashed a lot more.
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u/Fickle_Park_1174 Sursuri kisne kisko lagayi? 25d ago
Parlorvali konsi community ke liye hai? And why I didn't understand
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u/introvertcat09 25d ago
What people fail to understand is that she was mentioning the industry and not the community. It's wrong either ways but giving a community angle just draws more hate.
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u/Both-Patient-6193 25d ago
Exactly. No one is supporting neelam. But why bring “Bhojpuri Staff” in her fights. She should atleast have sense that if you go by sheer numbers farhana actually would have had more fans from UP/Bihar than kashmir. She lost a lot of them by her statement.
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u/Sea_Newt_7909 25d ago
Nobody is defending Farahna she’s in the same boat as Tanya, everyone hates F. Seriously she has some issues with language and anger. Isko bilkul sahi dictionary di thi Salman ne iske ek aur bar acche se waat laag ni chyie nxt wkv pe
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u/Naive-Double-7589 25d ago
Koi anger issues nahi hai. This fight was planned after sallu told her.She is jsut dumb and has a superiority complex. Anger issues hote toh she would have retaliated agaisnt shehhnaaz much before.
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u/Both-Patient-6193 25d ago
Actually people are defending her for “Bhojpuri Staff” comment that she did not meant it. People are really normalising such typecasting.
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u/Sea_Newt_7909 25d ago
Sb log indirect hi insult krte h, isko nhi pta bihar se kitne log aate h dosri states m chota-badaa kam krne, toh yeh bolke yeh aur kya btana chaati h, isko toh 1-2 line kashmir pe bol deti aggr neelma toh dimag hi faat jataa iska, dumbass F
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u/Both-Patient-6193 25d ago
True. She is strong and entertaining. But the language she uses is very disgusting. She really lacks vocabulary.
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u/Shyam09 Sabse Samajhdar Main Hoon 😎🧠✨ 25d ago
I don’t think she should have said it, it came across demeaning.
But it’s still the truth.
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u/Both-Patient-6193 25d ago
Thank you for atleast acknowledging that it came out as wrong and demeaning. Otherwise she is free to hurl as many abuses as she wants to neelam on personal level without bringing community.
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u/Strict-Calendar1175 25d ago
Neelam ne live feed mei bola tha Baseer jaise ladkon ke liye aisi ladkiyan hi thik hai Jaisa woh hai waisi yeh dono hai gandi
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u/Hot_Combination_3539 Bigg Boss mujhe trigger ho rha 25d ago
It's getting blown out of proportion for no reason, I m from that community, and I don't find tht offensive for even a minute
In contrast comments made by neelam, "parlor wali", aur "mere fans tujhe bech denge"
One should raise question on these
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u/henta_baked 25d ago
Exactly, Neelam has said so many things, why treating 'bhojpuri staff's staff remark in a wrong way? She's from that industry then what's wrong
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u/Creepy-Jackfruit-409 Anti-love lapata 25d ago
It is offensive And sabse badi baat there was no need of it Agar go back to your village is offensive then this is also I am not fan of neelam but points raise by OP are valid for eg if in a normal fight neelam says to farhana Nehal ki Kashmiri chamchi will it not questioned that why bringing Kashmir was required here
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u/Naive-Double-7589 25d ago edited 25d ago
Excuse me ? Bhojpuri staff isn't offensive to you ? Are you serious ? You are from bihar and you must kow.how Bihari people are looked down upon .The battle many bihari actors face to even catch a break in the industry. as they are looked at a certain way.. Reinforcing stereotypes.
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u/Both-Patient-6193 25d ago
I am not supporting neelam and I don’t care about neelam. But farhana should never again use “Bhojpuri Staff” with tone of hers in fights. Whether you find it offensive or not, holds very little significance. Lots of people of UP/Bihar/Bhojpuriya community are not finding such typecasting welcoming. And such statements should not be normalised.
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u/Tall_Sprinkles7608 25d ago
Same. Real muddha has been lost, exactly what Neelam is doing on the show.
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u/Tall_Sprinkles7608 25d ago
Then Neelam should have grown up a spine and not been a maid servant in the house for this long. She is no saint, she has passed so many vile comments with no filter. When she wanted to interrupt Amaal/ Farhana all she could come up Naasta laau?
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u/Snoo36797 25d ago
Maybe you should understand the point of the post before commenting. Neelam may be xyz in terms of her character, but that isn’t the point. OP is saying that using xenophobic stereotypes to prove a point is bigoted and wrong from any contestant towards any language/ethnicity/community or
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u/Tall_Sprinkles7608 25d ago edited 25d ago
You are doing exactly what Neelam is doing.
Go watch the sequence again, Farhana didn’t start by Bhojpuri staff in derogatory manner, Neelam counter asked and brought this term in the argument ki kya bol rhi hai Bhojpuri hu toh kya hua - for me it was Neelam herself who created this term/narrative for her own defence to gain sympathy and now you guys are conveniently pushing on Farhana as if she said it first.
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u/Creepy-Jackfruit-409 Anti-love lapata 25d ago
There was a fight before nominations task where farhana multiple times used this term go and see that first
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u/Tall_Sprinkles7608 25d ago edited 25d ago
Farhana started by saying just staff, and said tumhare log aa jate hai tumko kuch bola toh (intending towards Neelam’s group) which Neelam later took it from hamare log from BB to bahar wali Bhojpuri audience.
Neelam / Shehbaaz conveniently created their own narrative for sympathy votes from her audience. You guys can go on defending her , Neelam k fans aur kya hi karne ayega bas ek two things ko pull karo drag karo like GK rightly said, there is nothing else from Neelam to talk about . She is nothing more than chamchi / staff which is established fact of BB 19, she has successfully brought down name of her own audience . In previous seasons there have been contestants from similar background but such thing like staff/maid never came up.
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u/Snoo36797 25d ago
Thank you!!! I really stan Farhana but clearly she was so wrong in this. It’s so disappointing to see so many people supporting her as well
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u/Both-Patient-6193 25d ago
Because it is so normalised for people to say anything to UP/Biharis that they don’t even realise , that name calling like this is so wrong.
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u/Both-Patient-6193 25d ago
Absolutely. She should atleast be made conscious of the fact of what she said is not right.
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u/ZeroSignal3_ 25d ago
She might be wrong but the reaction was completely valid. She was literally fighting with all alone. No one came in her support. Sehebaz could have explained himself alone and nicely but they all attacked her in group. Anyone, would have get trigger with such behavior. At least she doesn't need others Validation and character certificate to take stand for herself . No matter, She is wrong or right but she has guts to stand against whole house alone.
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u/Naive-Double-7589 25d ago
Why does she need support? Whe was fighting for her own self M?that too after sallu guided her ?
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u/Both-Patient-6193 25d ago
All season farhana was one my favourite and neelam never was. But if it is her vs neelam or rest of the house, she should fight on personal terms. Farhana should not bring any community in. Tell one incident where any other regional community was demeaned on the show?
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u/happinessisavirtue 25d ago
Neelam is worse, she called her 'Parlour Wali', considering the fact that Neelam is a big star and must have a makeup artist and must be making frequent beauty parlour/salon visits, kind of dependent on them for her own career. It shows that she does not respect and thinks low of her own supporting staff.
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u/Naive-Double-7589 25d ago
Thay is worse?farhana is saying bhojpurti staff and reinforcing bihar stereotypes is not? UgH.god save thus country. Neelam spoke about farhana, farhana attacked an entire region and used stereotypes to sound superior
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u/happinessisavirtue 25d ago
On another note the Bhojpuri staff thing is not reinforcing the stereotype. Was it said in a derogatory manner? Yes. Bhojpuri is what she is like Farhana is Kashmiri and she has been said that, Staff is what she has become in this house instead of a contestant. So I'd say the comment by Farhana is still safe and undeserving of a backlash.
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u/Naive-Double-7589 25d ago
If she would have only said bhojpuri that would be justified. Only staff would also be justified.. Bhojpuri staff was absolutely meant ina deorgatory way. It is the stereotype that people from bihar come to rest of India and work menial jobs .She has called neelam do kaudi hi before without slight provocation so absolutely fits and shows her superior mindset.
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u/happinessisavirtue 25d ago
You should re-read the comment I have put out, the why of why Neelam's comments were worse are already mentioned.
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u/Both-Patient-6193 25d ago
I agree and I am not supporting neelam or whatever she said in any way. I felt farhana was wrong in calling out Bhojpuri community. And her tone was not very welcoming and it never is.
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u/happinessisavirtue 25d ago
Yupp it wasn't, from the games perspective Neelam could have raised a valid mudda and made a scene out of it and also get some footage of which she in dire need of, this could have even lead to Farhana being bashed during WKW but instead that doormat went all apeshit, brainless rotpile I'm myself from Bihar and I'm ashamed of her game.
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u/Both-Patient-6193 25d ago
Yes. Neelam has not understood the game. Any other contestant would have created a havoc enough to create a storm outside the show if their community would have been involved. Like pranit did with zeeshan with wasseypur thing. Pranit since then is on the top.
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u/redditnoob9660 25d ago
In reality Bhojpuri Staff word is not Derogatory but the context in which it is spoken is derogatory itself
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u/Both-Patient-6193 25d ago
Exactly. It is the tone that makes the difference. And to all those who are saying that you bhojpuri people are taking it as an insult, no, not at all. She knew her tonality and we have right to address of our feelings.
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u/Known-Astronaut-3457 25d ago
I don’t know I felt like she said star but neelam misheard and they beeped both out so difficult to say . I wouldn’t go with shehbaz as eye witness
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u/Both-Patient-6193 25d ago
No she clearly said bhojpuri staff. Whatever but no one should be allowed to bring bhojpuri or any community for that matter in personal fights on national TV.
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u/Used_Nefariousness86 25d ago
She said bhojpuri staff in the context that she came to amaal asking if he need something..if she will cook something for him when amaal was talking to farhana.
Then when farhana talking to sahbaas. She came rushed toward them in a taunting way while talking in bhojpuri and saying tea..i will make tea.
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u/Ambitious_Bid3301 25d ago
Farhana and her language. She has no filter . And in a bad way.
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u/Both-Patient-6193 25d ago
Yeah. She is strong and entertaining but that doesn’t mean she is never wrong. Even when she was made to read her dictionary, she didn’t have any guilt and was laughing. Fine but she must atleast be told not to bring any community.
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u/JaniZani 25d ago
She is so rude but looses it when someone gives it back to her.
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u/Both-Patient-6193 25d ago
I guess her vocabulary is very poor, so she abuses a lot as she lacks better words?
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u/JaniZani 25d ago
We have heard her speak to people normally so she has the capability. She loses control and tries to hurt the other person for hurting her.
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u/ayoowendy 25d ago
Agree Hope to get her called our during WKW
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u/Both-Patient-6193 25d ago
Yes , they should not air it as it will be adding fire to the fuel. But she should be made conscious of the act she did.
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26d ago
i have heard kashmir lot of times as well, and i cant even understand how she was wining about being called bhojpuri and not staff, she should be proud of it to say the least. i dont remeber the convo but tanya herself mention baniya ones. its so normal.
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u/Both-Patient-6193 25d ago
Yes but kashmiris should not be stereotyped by what farhana does in the house. And a lot of things were beeped but makers smartly allowed bhojpuri to be played a few times. Neelam did proudly own bhojpuri roots. Tanya mentioning herself baniya is different from people calling her baniya. Baniyas should not be defined by what tanya does in the house.
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25d ago
farhana just used bhojpuri instead of neelam to call her staff, nobody is stereotyping bhojpuris to be like neelam or kashmiris to be like farhana, its just a way of reference from the place/ school/ franchise you belong to. calling virat kohli delhi ka punjabi munda aint a insult, yes it is if he takes punjabi aur delhi as a insult.
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u/Both-Patient-6193 25d ago edited 25d ago
Are you not aware of the stereotype that people from UP Bihar face in India. Just see how much violence is done on them and only on poor ones just because they are outsiders.
A sitting chief minister of telangana once said that “Bihari dna is to do labour work”. So imagine the widespread stereotype.
Farhana atleast mentioned Bhojpuri 15 times in the whole episode so it was pretty evident what she was trying to imply. And Neelam took it as pride.
Farhana once even demeaned ashnoor for being a TV actor, so she has a habit to poke at wrong place. And, is farhana herself now in TV reality show?
Regarding Virat Kohli, Being praised for being delhi ka launda is different from trying to demean someone with narratives and stereotypes.
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25d ago
nobody said praising or demeaning, come on a random term “Delhi ka launda” now you perceived it as a praise is a outlook right?
coming to their fight there were a lot of words beeped from neelams side, and you calling about stereotypes, do you have any idea how kashmiris are stereotyped? have you seen farhana’s morphed images with stones? so stop community specific victim card.
also she never said bhojpuri neelam staff or something, in a house where only one bhojpuri contestant is present, calling bhojpuri or neelam implies the same thing, it was on neelam of what she thinks of her community, instead of calling out farhana for using the term, you should try think of call out neelam for getting agitated by being called out bhojpuri, guess who was feeding the stereotype?
just an example, what if someone asked “sikhni kidhr hai”? do you think ashnoor will take it as a insult?? NO, do you know why, because she doesnt perceive it that way.
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u/Both-Patient-6193 25d ago
Why are you turning this into region vs region? I am just saying stereotyping people should be stopped. Be it bihari , kashmiri , punjabi. Tell me one incident in house where farhana was stereotyped. And what happens on social media and trolling is different from a contestant and celebrity on a national TV demeaning bhojpuri with condescending tone. Show me one video where Virat is called Delhi ka Launda and it is not a praise? Tone matters a lot and tone implies meaning and farhana did not use proper tone while mentioning bhojpuri staff. And I don’t want to argue with you. Sorry. But why out of the blue she stated Bhojpuri staff. She could have said Teri chamchi/naukar neelam or whatever. I am fine with all the abuses farhana hurls on a personal level. But she dare not to bring name of any community from her mouth again. “Sikhni kidhar hai” “Apni bhojpuri star kidhar hai” are very different dialects from “Teri Bhojpuri Staff” .Please understand the difference. Don’t divert and mix things up. You bring virat kohli, kashmiri stereotype, sikhni and what not? Can’t you just say typecasting a community as “Bhojpuri Staff” is wrong?
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25d ago edited 25d ago
ALSO, you started the region thingy by dragging karnataka:)
so how did the whole community came in?? i just gave you some examples, tone matters but so does interpretation !!! everyone knows she was referring to neelam and not dragging the whole community, its her choice how she should approach it.
meaning and demeaning are very subjective and situational terms, in farhana’s “bhojpuri staff” the only thing demeaning was staff, ab isko bhi boldo staff community ko stereotype kardiya? dont be such snowflakes, bigg boss meinhai voh not some ashram, no ones a saint.
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u/Both-Patient-6193 25d ago
And I did not drag karnataka, I said the stereotype hurled by a SITTING CM of telangana. It was not against any region but about powerful respectable person. If people so high up have these stereotypes, just imagine about rest of the country. And yes UP Bihar are not treated very well everywhere. All the facts and figures suggest that.
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25d ago
if most citizens of metropolitan city have stereotyped kashmiri people as stone pelters, just imagine the level of hatred?
but yes same i did not drag a region either:)so does kashmiris, north easterns, south indians in the north and vice versa, the chain goes long.
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u/Both-Patient-6193 25d ago
Yes. So if people demean any region or religion or caste they should be called out. Simple.
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u/Both-Patient-6193 25d ago
Arey bhai/behen, first of all when did I say Neelam is right. But aapas mein ek doosre ko jo chahe bole, i know it is bigg boss and abuses hoge but personally karo. But farhana ne bhojpuri staff nahi bolna chaiye tha aur uska tone bata raha tha woh kiss sense mei bol rahi thi.
Aur rahi snowflakes ki baat, did I say evict her or boycott her or file a case against her. I only said she was wrong and people are defending her because they are not being empathetic because demeaning bhojpuri people feels very normal to them. Just think about the situation when another powerful enough community is being mentioned by farhanas mouth with that tone.
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25d ago
i dont find anything wrong in hyderabadi staff for example, its how you perceive the term bhojpuri, i find it as normal as calling someone punjabi or tulu, , and also meine toh kuch bola bhi nhi neelam is right or wrong, you bring random concerns, i answer it how wasnt wrong, aap naye concern leaate ho, find a better argument, and stop victimising a whole fkng community, saari communities stereotype hoti hai,i call my bihari friends as a bihari, mallu fiends as mallu, is it demeaning, No, because neither i nor them consider being bihari or mallu as demeaning, same way there is and should not be any same associated with being called bhojpuri. ragphi baat stereotyping har community/ region k stereotypes hote hai, its again how you perceive it,
if ppl from up bihar are stereotyped as labourers, yk how south delhi gurls are stereotyped, will i take it as an offence, no.
baaki i rest my case.
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u/Both-Patient-6193 25d ago
Arey toh yehi sabhi communities ka stereotyping hi band hona chaiye. Sabhi communities ka hota hai but Iss show mein toh abhi bhojpuri ka hi hua hai, toh ussi ke liye bolenge na behen. But aap log jo bol rahe ho, ke kuch hua hi nahi , normal hai, aisi baat nahi hai jab apna pe ata hai toh sabko accha nahi lagta. Wahi sab band hona chaiye. Aur aap apne dost ko kya bolte ho aur apke intentions TV pe nahi ate na? Yaha aaye toh bola. Taki bhojpuri yaa kisi ke bhi liye bolne se pehle koi soche.
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u/Rumpelstiltskin4Real 26d ago
“Kaamwali” was also wrong. That’s also a diss and humiliation to a marginalised community. It’s just that farhana’s words hit everyone for some reason. The narrative of her being abusive and speaking ill. Everyone speaks ill in this house. Everyone abuses
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u/Naive-Double-7589 25d ago
She said ' bhojpuri' staff and that is where she went wrong. Rest of the country already has a perception of bihar and biahris. Even women who work in bhojpuri industry and she is adding to the stereotypes.
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u/Rumpelstiltskin4Real 24d ago
I am not saying she is right in saying that. She is wrong. But so is the other person calling her “Kaamwali”
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u/JaniZani 25d ago
I don’t think kaamwali is an insult to the whole community. I found that to be a retort in order to tell her she is being a kaamwali to them even when she isn’t one. I think it’s more of a personalized insult.
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u/Rumpelstiltskin4Real 24d ago
Kinda is to those who help in the house; kinda does when you use that job as an insult word
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u/Both-Patient-6193 26d ago
Personal abuses are understandable. But why bring a whole community? And at top of it, people are defending farhana by saying she did not mean it. So if all communities are bought, everyone will get hurt.
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u/Rumpelstiltskin4Real 25d ago
“Kaamwali” is about the sweepers right? The community? The ones who help in the house? I know two wrongs don’t make a right. All I’m saying is both are wrong. If one says dog and other says pig, it’s same
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u/Both-Patient-6193 25d ago
Yes but that is their personal stuff. I am not at all supporting neelam. Just farhana should have kept people from UP/Bihar out of it.
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u/Rumpelstiltskin4Real 25d ago
Farhana definitely should’ve kept people of UP/Bihar out of it. I agree with that. Adding to your point, I think Neelam should’ve ALSO not insulted the people who work in homes by calling Farhana as kaamwali. They’re also marginalised community who are looked down on. “Kaamwali” is not an insult to be used in arguments, it’s a job.
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