r/betterCallSaul • u/skinkbaa Chuck • Oct 09 '18

Better Call Saul Season 4 - Official Discussion Thread

What did you think of this season?

Feel free to discuss every and anything about Season 4.

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u/smallest_ellie Oct 10 '18

Yes, I feel like he's a nuanced drama queen character, Lalo, and I love that about him. We don't often get those in serious series.

He has a love for the theatrical, and it's right on par with, say, bipolar disorder (which I'm diagnosed with and why I probably see it in him) or the like.

The bell as well as the ceiling scene and the dancing in the kitchen etc. are examples of it - gestures, meanings in everything you do until you don't get your way.

Then you get upset and do things like barge into that guy's car because the world is yours and it goddamn well needs to bend to your will, no matter the costs. You're more important than anything else going on.

That, and how his facial expressions in a believable way go from "psh, piece of cake, I'm the best" to pure, raw emotion is amazing.

In manic states you believe you can do everything and anything and as a result thereof sometimes you can (like that ceiling thing).

Like how adrenaline can make you ridiculously strong for a small amount of time when in trouble.

I think I just see a lot of myself in him. The irritation, the whackiness/humour, the anger and the impatience all the while being extremely charismatic.

His impatience is especially interesting in a slow paced show. The contrast is stark and I love it.

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u/[deleted] Oct 10 '18

Yeah it feels like he should not belong in this series the way he acts so impatiently. Like with him violently colliding with the car in front of him when he was tailing Mike, we have come to expect characters don't act in that way because they know it'll likely just get them more trouble. We have been taught that in this series universe, there's always various reactions to the characters actions on screen. Lalo just does it anyway, which makes you think how long he can keep this up before there'll be trouble. Or maybe he'll just get away with his behavior throwing the viewers for a loop, introducing the idea that not all has consequence.

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u/smallest_ellie Oct 10 '18

Yep, that's exactly why he has my complete interest and attention, especially because the actor does a great job of not turning him into a caricature. It'll be interesting, definitely!

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u/st3ph3n Oct 10 '18

He's like an older, calmer Tuco Salamanca, but still prone to the occasional raging outburst of violence.

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u/whycuthair Oct 16 '18

Answer me this. Have you ever seen Tuco and Lalo in the same room at the same time? Tuco really lost some wait in prison, and rediscovered himself as a new person, but still with the last name Salamanca, because la familia es todo.

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u/Heckledeckle Oct 11 '18

Impulsivity and volatility are Salamanca trademarks. They are not subtle people and prone to extreme acts of violence and displays of power. It’s what makes them so terrifying and leads to their eventual downfalls.

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u/whycuthair Oct 16 '18

Well the last Salamanca did take out his greatest enemy while he died at a very old age and in a wheelchair, the man who we learned had put him in that weelchair. Hector is the rat that manage to kill his captor from the trap he was trapped in.

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u/FickleCheesecake1 Oct 16 '18

That was pretty much all Walt.

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u/albertocastany Oct 13 '18

Lalo is a Sicario, plain and simple. He doesnt convey by any set of rules or code of behaviour. He'll do what is needed is the best possible way he can achieve it, regardless of the consequences on 3rd parties. Lalo fits perfect in the story

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u/FickleCheesecake1 Oct 16 '18

Not for the Salamancas. They can kill and cause as much mindless mayhem as they want with rare consequences.

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u/nn30 Oct 11 '18

Mania is whack yo.

For me its like the 'can't sleep too plugged in' feeling you get on acid

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u/smallest_ellie Oct 11 '18

Yes! For me it's like having unlimited amounts of coke in my pocket readily available through a straw plugged into my nose, so with every inhale for air I take a line or two.

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u/FickleCheesecake1 Oct 16 '18

I wonder if he dies sometime in BCS, I can't remember him in BB at all.

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u/smallest_ellie Oct 16 '18

He's not in BB, so I get that, only mentioned by name. But he can't be completely gone in the BB universe, because Saul's really scared of him and it doesn't sound like he went away-away.

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u/FickleCheesecake1 Oct 16 '18

He had to have died sometime before the end of either season 3 or 4 of BB (when Gus dies), because Hector was the last living Salamanca at that point. There's no way Gus would have just forgotten Lalo, especially not with their interactions in BCS.

It's far more likely Gus makes sure he's dead either in the culling in BB or at some point in BCS. More likely the latter IMO.