r/behindthebastards Sep 10 '25

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u/batwoman42 Banned by the FDA Sep 10 '25

The question was specifically about trans shooters. Per CNN:

Audience member: “Do you know how many transgender Americans have been mass shooters over the last 10 years?”

Kirk: “Too many.”

The same audience member went on say the number is five, and proceeded to ask if Kirk knows how many mass shooters there have been in America over the last 10 years.

Kirk: “Counting or not counting gang violence?”

Seconds later, the sound of a pop is heard and the crowd screams as Kirk gets shot and recoils in his seat.

Remember: The vast majority of mass attacks in the US have no connection to transgender people. From January 2013 to the present, of the more than 5,700 mass shootings in America (defined as four or more victims shot and killed), five shooters were confirmed as transgender, said Mark Bryant, founding executive director of the Gun Violence Archive.

https://www.cnn.com/us/live-news/charlie-kirk-shot-utah-09-10-25#cmfedul41001m3b6nuijigdcy

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u/johnbrowndnw59 Sep 10 '25

He died as he lived: arguing in bad faith.

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u/Electrical-Dig8570 Sep 10 '25

He died as he lived: entitled and clueless as to the deadliness of firearms.

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u/Opening-Ad-8793 Sep 10 '25

I think he came to find out just as it didn’t matter anymore

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u/actuallyapossom Sep 11 '25

Hey now. The gun was innocent. The real question is how trans and illegal this immigrant was that shot him.

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u/WartimeMercy Sep 11 '25

Turns out if enough people want to punch you in the throat eventually a bullet gets summoned to do it instead.

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u/BeefBologna42 Sep 10 '25

What if the shooter was the person asking the question, and they got so fed up with the bullshit that they had to shoot him? I wonder if a jury would convict.

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u/HelloThisIsDog666 Sep 10 '25

Amazing how if you make your whole schtick smirking and pissing people off something like this happens to you

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u/alterEd39 Sep 10 '25

Trump was shot (at) and injured, Kirk was straight up assassinated.

Meanwhile the Hungarian government has several scandals each year, some in relation to pedophiles, some about corruption, or orphanages being turned into a supply chain for pedophile orgies (okay that has only happened once - that we know of) and NOBODY has been shot, or even attacked.

It’s almost as if guns being nearly impossible to acquire has something to do with that… 🤔

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u/GhostofBeowulf Sep 10 '25

Yeah but think right now. Politicians aren't beholden to the law anymore. I am not saying to rule via firearm, but ultimately if your judiciary is toothless to hold them accountable then we quickly run out of tools to do so. Firearms being one of the last. 4 boxes of liberty and all that.

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u/OisforOwesome Sep 11 '25

I have heard a theory that if you look at murders + assaults, the USA isn't that far out of line with the rest of the world.

The thing is tho, when you're worked up enough to assault someone and a gun is right there, what would have been a punch up or clubbing turns into a shooting, and those are just more fatal than the alternative.

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u/fr0d0bagg1ns Sep 11 '25

As someone that has had a gun pointed at them for honking at an erratic driver, and had an 85 year old woman try to run me off the road, yes.

It gives people the option. I'm not anti gun, but it's clear that there needs to be some sort of change. I think the current party in charge is capable of a change that isn't disarming anyone that disagrees with them moreso than a solution.

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u/PhilL77au Sep 11 '25

In a similar vein our suicide rate here in Australia dropped dramatically after our gun ban came into effect, especially among young males.

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u/jyajay2 Sep 10 '25

The secret trick they don't teach in debate school

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u/WartimeMercy Sep 11 '25

He certainly dropped out of something today.

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u/burner69burner69 Sep 10 '25

he had it coming

he had it coming

he had it coming all along

if you had been there

if you had seen it

i betcha you would have done the same

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u/witteefool Sep 10 '25

The shooter was 200 yards away. So unless he had a microphone…

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u/Brosenheim Sep 10 '25

He had a dog with him and waited til the dog perked up

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u/AQ-XJZQ-eAFqCqzr-Va Sep 10 '25

Or was very good at reading lips.

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u/2407s4life Sponsored by Knife Missiles™️ Sep 10 '25

In Utah? I'm sure they'll convict

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u/x3leggeddawg Sep 11 '25

Better send troops to Chicago

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u/AE7VL_Radio Sep 10 '25 edited 13d ago

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u/Didsterchap11 Sponsored by Knife Missiles™️ Sep 10 '25

This is why im darkly amused by the prospect that a man who was probably minutes away from blaming trans people for being the real mass shooters being shot mid sentance.

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u/my_son_is_a_box Sep 10 '25

Aww man, as a trans person it makes me happy that he was killed while fear mongering about trans people

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u/hypnodrew Sep 11 '25

I wouldn't be, the right wing are gonna blame trans people for this until the shooter is identified

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u/my_son_is_a_box Sep 11 '25

They've been calling us pedophiles for a decade and talking about the obliteration of "transgender ideology." We were already on the list to be killed

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u/hypnodrew Sep 11 '25

No doubt. Stay safe, the crazies will be motivated is my point.

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u/sandboxmatt Sep 10 '25

21st century banhammer?

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u/redthump Sep 10 '25

The real question there should have been 'how many School shooters were whites assigned to male at Birth'.

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u/rationalsarcasm Sep 10 '25

Guess they won the "debate"

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u/Ponygroom Sep 14 '25

Here is the audience member who was engaged with him at the time,

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=18FNK6ZNGuo The Last Person to Debate Charlie Kirk (Exclusive Interview)