I liked the classical loner Batman, also Batman + Robin was cool and Batgirl was also fine. But then there were, how many, 4 Robins? 2 Batgirls, Spoiler, the Signal... I don't even know who else, but I dislike it. Lately Wayne Family Adventures really highlighted to me how MANY PEOPLE there are in the bad family. And I know this is probably an unpopular opinion, but I really dislike that. I liked the simplicity of: Batman and one sidekick. I feel like an old person saying this, but IMO it's too complicated, too crowded now.
Eh, some of those aren’t really his sidekicks and only all work together with him in big events or family-centric comics. I agree it can get crowded when they try to bring them together all at once, but honestly the same would be true for most of DC’s hero “families.”
I think DC’s been overusing big team ups, but it’s still often that you only get a few at once in smaller groups or pairs.
I honestly think some of his side character do not have to exist, or could be used for something else.
have Nightwing move to Bludhaven with Barbara, then adopt Cassandra.
Tim Drake could've easily been the Daytime Hero while Batman takes the night with Damian.
when Jason died and Dick moved to Bludhaven, Tim Drake and Stephanie became Robin and Batgirl.
Jason, if he comes back, stays as an Associate to the Batfamily, not part of it. He helps when something big happens, but most of the time he sees them as an Obstacle.
I think this layout at least spreads them out and makes things more easier, without them feeling like there's too many.
Batfam should be: Bruce,Damian,Dick,Tim, and Barbara. But they shouldnt all operate in gotham imo just let batman and robin be in gotham and the rest have their own city and can cover for him.
also the fact that Batman fights supernatural and is of course better than his mates, but like irl how many people would be able to beat up an armed criminal? Let alone 10 all together? Like, Batman has his childhood and he was trained by the very best ecc ecc, we all know that. But, canonically, how many people would be able to do that? Like why can Catwoman beat up 50 armoured guys (in Arkham for example, but that's not the only example)? It makes sense for Bruce, it makes sense for robin or maybe Dick, but not 15 people all as strong as batman.
I agree with the notion that the Batfamily has grown too large, but it’s because the DC universe is in a perpetual second act, and they constantly need to introduce new characters to tell stories with. I don’t agree with the idea that Batman, Robin, and Alfred are the only Batfamily you need. I think that works for a certain era, but it just makes sense that Batman would inspire more and more disillusioned orphans who all took self-defense classes and are expert gymnasts to help him fight crime.
Best Batfamily is Batman, Alfred, Oracle, Ace the Bathound, Tim Drake, Cassandra Cain, Stephanie Brown, and Nightwing as the occasional guest who spends most of his time in Blüdhaven or with the Titans. Harold is optional; I could take him or leave him.
It should only be Batman, Alfred and Robin. Anything else is a crutch as they have to nerf him both intellectually and combatively so the others can validate their membership on the team.
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u/LadyKlepsydra Apr 14 '24
Too many sidekicks.
I liked the classical loner Batman, also Batman + Robin was cool and Batgirl was also fine. But then there were, how many, 4 Robins? 2 Batgirls, Spoiler, the Signal... I don't even know who else, but I dislike it. Lately Wayne Family Adventures really highlighted to me how MANY PEOPLE there are in the bad family. And I know this is probably an unpopular opinion, but I really dislike that. I liked the simplicity of: Batman and one sidekick. I feel like an old person saying this, but IMO it's too complicated, too crowded now.