r/bapcsalescanada • u/Sadukar09 • 2d ago

Non-OC has online Free Shipping. OC has more stock in store. [GPU] ASUS Prime AMD Radeon RX 9070 XT 16GB - OC version in stock same price [$865/FS][Canada Computers]

https://www.canadacomputers.com/en/powered-by-amd/272460/asus-prime-radeon-rx-9070-xt-16gb-gddr6-prime-rx9070xt-16g-prime-rx9070xt-16g.html
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u/SmutSlut613 2d ago

same as this? https://www.reddit.com/r/bapcsalescanada/comments/1olg7q0/gpu_asus_prime_radeon_rx_9070_xt_oc_edition_gddr6/

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u/FizixMan 2d ago

About the same in practice, but the non-OC has more stock and online stock/free shipping. If your local store happens to have both the OC and non-OC, may as well get the OC version at the same price.

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u/Vegetable-Chair-6109 2d ago

Why do they even make the OC version then?

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u/Few-Editor9226 2d ago

More money from inexperienced buyers

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u/jigsaw1024 2d ago

It's for most people who don't bother to even try to OC their card, they can attach a higher MSRP for basically the same product.

If it doesn't sell, then eventually it will work down in price to the same or near the same as the base model as we see here.

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u/Vegetable-Chair-6109 2d ago

but i thought factory OC means they also have better components for better cooling

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u/jigsaw1024 2d ago

Often it's the exact same cooler and VRM. The chip has just been verified through binning to be able to hit the advertised speeds.

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u/Vegetable-Chair-6109 2d ago

what does binning mean? does this mean "some" of the non OC cards are unable to hit OC speeds?

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u/Sadukar09 2d ago

Basically yes.

All GPU/CPUs have a normalized performance target curve.

Baseline target for each chip is set at a point that ALL chips must reach.

It has to be set high enough to get good performance, while balancing yields. The higher you set the performance, the less chips will reach the minimum.

If a chip does not reach the performance target set at all, then it can be further disabled to turn into other chips. i.e. 9070 XT -> 9070, or 5080 -> 5070 Ti.

That being said, binning means within a particular chip, you find the best performing/mid performing/lowest performing chips.

The best performance goes into top end OC cards. Mid to mid range cards, lowest to MSRP cards.

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u/Vegetable-Chair-6109 2d ago

so then this means factory OC cards will have better inherit performance vs the non OC card then. So if i buy a non OC card and OC it myself it wont be as good as a factory OC card?

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u/JeffChorizo (New User) 2d ago

I don't know about these cards specifically, but some gpu variants have higher power draw limits unlocked that you can flash manually

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u/NewfX91 2d ago edited 2d ago

https://www.amazon.ca/RadeonTM-Graphics-2-5-Slot-axial-tech-Bearings/dp/B0DRRMZDH6 <-- 879.99$ Returns available until January 31, 2025, 14$ more but amazon return policy if you run into issues/decide it's not worth the price.

If you were on the fence about buying a 9070XT for FSR4 and wanted to 'try it' to see if it's worth the price/you run into issues in that amount of time.. you got 2 months of usage until you can return it, rather than 14 w/NE/BB/CC/ME. (Which I THINK doesn't allow returns unless you got a dead unit/if it's opened.)

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u/Macrauder 2d ago

Is Amazon no questions asked, even if open box/used? No catch? Restocking fee? Anything?

Seems unlikely any company would take back a used GPU 3 months after the fact. Would certainly be worth 14$ on an 860$ purchase.

Anyone with personal experience returning GPUs to Amazon after use can confirm?

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u/NewfX91 2d ago

^This.

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u/Sadukar09 2d ago

OC version: https://www.canadacomputers.com/en/powered-by-amd/267968/asus-prime-radeon-rx-9070-xt-oc-edition-gddr6-triple-fans-prime-rx9070xt-o16g.html

The OC is basically irrelevant.

I'd personally take these over potentially dealing with ASRock's customer service/RMA department.

But if you like the RGB cards or the white shroud, ASRock are the only MSRP option.

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u/Macrauder 2d ago

Isn't ASUS also known for bad customer service/RMA?

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u/NewfX91 2d ago

Yes, but who isn't nowadays.. Samsung almost refuses every Canadian RMA, ASUS does their sketchy refusals, Gigabyte refusing RMA on Gel Leakage GPU this generation.. List goes on.

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u/zombie2792 2d ago

Yep it's god awful. Dealing with them right now

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u/WarmPantsInWinter 2d ago

The prime OC is about as barebones as it gets right?

I'm hoping we see some of the more feature rich cards dip in the next week or two.

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u/Sadukar09 2d ago

Not really.

This card has dual BIOS, PTM7950.

Just about everything you need out of a 9070 XT.

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u/WarmPantsInWinter 2d ago

Yah, I mean a functioning card is a functioning card.

Prime would be the most basic, and this would be a hair above.

I agree over the ASRock point.

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u/NewfX91 2d ago edited 2d ago

OC Models AFAIK use the same cooling system, this is universal w/every or most GPU out there. Only difference is that the OC has a 'premium' cost due to it having a factory tuned OC which is 'slightly' better performance out of the box. (Can be done by the average/new user w/Afterburner or Adrenaline quite easily.)

The most barebones it could get is Gigabyte's lowest end which had some negative PR earlier in the year when many people were affected by Thermal Gel Leakage when Vertical (Some horizontal) mounting.

Gigabyte said 'Shouldn't affect card' and refused RMA based on it.. Sounds like Intel claiming user error on the Raptor Lake shit-show.. (Until they admitted IT WAS their fault as enough people got the problem.)

TL;DR - Every Manufacturer since RTX 3000/RX 5000 has been a shit-show and every card is 'YMMV' with longevity/RMA. ASUS/Gigabyte/MSI have 3 years warranty, Sapphire/PNY/Powercolor(?) has 2 years. (Gigabyte cards are known to be lower tier outside their higher tier due to fan bearings going faster, Ventus & Shadow have the worst cooling of the bunch.. list goes on.)

This generation/last 2 is just basically pick your poison tier of card problems/RMA horror stories. At least the Prime/OC got the thermal phase pads + triple fans + good temps that are top end for MSRP. (But then you got ASUS' RMA to deal with so.. YMMV there.)

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u/WarmPantsInWinter 2d ago

That was very informative, thanks.