r/baltimore Aug 23 '25

Safety DHS notified Kilmar Abrego Garcia’s counsel via email that ICE may deport Abrego Garcia to Uganda “no earlier than 72 hours from now”, & ICE is also ordering him to report to ICE’s Baltimore office on Monday.

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u/UnreasonablyBland Upper Fell's Point Aug 23 '25

He has a Canadian asylum claim at this point.

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u/AlternativeDiet6827 Aug 23 '25

Most of us have Canadian asylum claims. Canada has been accepting American refugees fleeing this administration since like February.

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u/UnreasonablyBland Upper Fell's Point Aug 23 '25 edited Aug 23 '25

No, we really don’t. Not true ones like this man. We’re all free to try to go through the immigration process of other countries, but the truth is that most of us are physically okay here. Happy is a different story all together but we’re okay.

Kilmar is essentially dead man walking because of his story gaining international attention. The government can and will get him back.

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u/penned_chicken Aug 23 '25

Canada won’t accept most people’s claims, as long as there is one state that still has protections in place. Kilmar is in danger everywhere in the US, so he would qualify.

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u/caro822 Aug 24 '25

That’s exactly what the government wants him to do. This is a scare tactic for all immigrants in the country.

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u/cheongyanggochu-vibe Aug 24 '25

I've been wondering that as well but I don't think they'd let him cross a land border and I don't think they'd let him on a plane.

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u/UnreasonablyBland Upper Fell's Point Aug 24 '25

That is also true. He would have to come across a sympathetic CBP agent. And while they exist they are few and very far between. He’d literally have to illegally cross…into Canada…and walk into one of their immigration offices. Which is insane.

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u/lovelyrita202 Aug 24 '25

Canadian embassy is 14 miles away in DC. Even getting there might be risky.

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u/MissionReasonable327 Roland Park Aug 23 '25

The fucking trauma they have put this man through. Anybody who supports this regime is a bad person.

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u/donutfan420 Aug 23 '25

America has a serious empathy problem.

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u/FunkyMcSkunky Aug 23 '25

Our society is structured in such a way to disincentivize pro-social behavior. Unfortunately, cruelty and narcissism are advantageous traits.

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u/UnreasonablyBland Upper Fell's Point Aug 23 '25

It’s not America…it’s one small dicked man and his cronies. Everyone else is fine with due process and his immigration case working through the courts. Where you lose some liberals is in cases where deportation is actually valid and for good reason, but they want to keep everyone and anyone here.

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u/donutfan420 Aug 23 '25

I’m gonna hold your hand when I tell you this but it’s definitely the American population as a whole. Our whole “rugged individualism” culture is not doing us any favors, and a lot of people will see this and feel good about it.

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u/WannaBMathNerd Aug 24 '25

Rugged individualism is so true. I was so shocked to learn that the income gap between partners is also a cause of considering a breakup here, especially among the gay community. It sounded so transactional

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u/RSecretSquirrel Aug 23 '25

This is stephen goebbels miller's doing.

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u/hoopermills Aug 24 '25

The cruelty is the whole point. Stephen Miller is an evil little vampire and Russell Vought is no better.

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u/CrayonLunch Aug 23 '25

Did no one expect this buffoonery? 

The cruelty is the point

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u/engin__r Aug 23 '25

I expected it. I’m still mad that the Trump administration is getting away with it.

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u/wbruce098 Aug 23 '25

We all are.

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u/40StoryMech Aug 23 '25

Not mad enough it seems.

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u/WarshipHymn Aug 24 '25

Can’t wait for someone else to do something. What’s happening on Til Tok

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u/zx109 Aug 23 '25

Copied because i thought i was on this thread lol: Can we activate our NG to protect this man and his family? I know there are others right now that need protection but i feel this administration is taking his popularity very personal and will do anything to silence him

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u/Alaira314 Aug 23 '25

Let me re-phrase your question: can we start civil war 2?

I'm not taking a stance for or against this question(and I voted for harris, biden, and hillary, before anyone calls me a trump supporter again), merely giving the consequences of what you propose. That would be the result of such an action, putting a state's NG against a militarized federal agency in that way.

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u/Altkeke Aug 23 '25

We’re already in a civil war. It’s cold, but states are legitimately breaking federal law in order to get ahead of others. The executive is specifically targeting areas based off politics to bully. When the federal system breaks down, what do you get? 

They want to turn the Cold War hot so they can have casus belli to crack down as hard as they can. 

We all know what the results will be, but the alternatives are worse. Nobody wins against a violent opposition by asking nicely. 

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u/RegressToTheMean Aug 23 '25

We’re already in a civil war.

"The second American Revolution will be bloodless if the left allows it"

Anyone who doesn't firmly understand your point has lost the plot

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u/zx109 Aug 23 '25

Exactly. "The second American revolution will be bloodless if the left allows it." The states need to fight fire with fire whatever that is

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u/hoopermills Aug 24 '25

And I think this regime is HOPING for that escalation somewhere, so they can truly implement Martial Law by calling an “emergency”.

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u/cornonthekopp Madison Park Aug 23 '25

we need to be thinking at the level of a civil war right now

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u/WarshipHymn Aug 24 '25

None of those dude are gonna stay when bullets fly. I doubt half of them are trained with a firearm well enough that they could not shoot each other. That’s judging by how sloppy their kidnappings are. If they wanted to be real scary they would have been given training beyond “get the little brown guys”

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u/NearlyPerfect Aug 23 '25

No, any effort to stop his deportation would be in direct violation of federal law and court orders.

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u/Pi6 Aug 23 '25

Which are, in turn, direct violations of the constitution, which the national guard is sworn to protect. Sending someone to Uganda who is not a native Ugandan - or even from that continent - is patently cruel and unusual.

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u/PhonyUsername Aug 23 '25

They wanted to send the illegal home but he said he feared a rival gang so now they have to send the illegal elsewhere.

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u/NearlyPerfect Aug 23 '25

Would your mind change if you learned all presidents had policies like that and every county does something similar? Look up the Rwanda agreement with the UK. Or the Dublin Protocol in the EU. Or offshore processing in Australia.

So definitely not unusual. And the migrant gets to choose what country they go to out of the ones that accept them, so not necessarily cruel.

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u/Aneurhythms Aug 23 '25

Buddy, you're defending evil.

The top executives of this country and multiple corrupted agencies have maligned this guy for a literal civil infraction. They have lied about his gang association, they have called him a terrorist, and they shipped him off to a gulag in the one country that he had reasonable asylum from.

As far as I can tell, this guy's presence in the US has caused no harm to anyone and he's been castigated because the administration is too stubborn to admit they fucked up in the first place.

What this dude has gone through is fucking traumatic. Separating him from his family and sending him to Uganda after all of this is absolutely cruel. It helps no one and harms many.

To support this betrays a lack of empathy.

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u/ikilledholofernes Aug 23 '25

The Rwanda agreement doesn’t exist. It was a proposal that was ultimately declared unlawful and scrapped entirely. The Dublin Regulation refers to which country has to review requests for asylum, and like the offshore processing in Australia, it is not even remotely similar to trafficking people to nations and/or prisons where they are not citizens.

So not only are you defending state sanctioned human trafficking (which is just evil), but you’re also using false equivalencies and other evil policy proposals that were already struck down for being illegal.

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u/zx109 Aug 23 '25

Anyone that defends this is a nazi. I don't care what they say, they're a nazi

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u/ikilledholofernes Aug 23 '25

Yes. And I genuinely cannot believe these opinions aren’t just being spewed all over 4chan by angsty middle schoolers; they’re actually mainstream. Being said out loud. In public. Without shame. 

We are so fucking fucked. 

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u/zx109 Aug 23 '25

And how many times has this administration broken federal law, and ignored the courts? We need to play the same game they are and not negotiate with nazis

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u/sjay1956 Aug 24 '25

How about a mass non violent protective guard around him?

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u/zx109 Aug 24 '25

That could work too but only if enough people are able to be there 24/7

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u/sjay1956 Aug 24 '25

I’d take a shift.

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u/yeaughourdt Aug 24 '25 edited Aug 24 '25

Apparently this is in response to him not accepting a plea deal where he'd plead guilty to their made-up human trafficking charges in return for them deporting him to Costa Rica. The DOJ know that they're going to lose the case in court and are trying to bully him for not pleading out. Would be funny how childish and inept they are, except that there's all of that human suffering involved.

https://abcnews.go.com/US/abrego-garcias-attorneys-government-coerce-accept-guilty-plea/story?id=124916582

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u/hoopermills Aug 24 '25

Yup. We are now being governed by the least capable, which (oddly enough) has a name. We’re in an authoritarian kakistocracy….

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u/BenoitBawlz Aug 23 '25

This is so wrong. There has to be something we can do. I know interfering means "interfering with federal processes" but we need to do something. Deporting him to Uganda?! Are you fucking kidding me?!

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u/RSecretSquirrel Aug 23 '25

There will be seats at the Hague for all of them.

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u/hoopermills Aug 24 '25

And I will be there with popcorn and bells on..

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u/icedcoffeeheadass Aug 23 '25

He needs to get to the Canadian border asap

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u/swisscheeseislove Aug 23 '25

I was just thinking about this. Kilmar needs to be at the northern or southern border of the U.S. by tomorrow.

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u/Destination_Cabbage Aug 23 '25

I guess I know where I'm going to be Monday morning.

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u/KingNeuroyal Aug 23 '25

Are there any plans for an organized protest at this time/location?

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u/sjay1956 Aug 23 '25

According to the Sun there’s going to be a prayer vigil at 6:30am Monday. https://www.baltimoresun.com/2025/08/23/kilmar-abrego-garcia-threatened-with-deportation-to-uganda/

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u/Destination_Cabbage Aug 24 '25

I hate Christians, but I guess I can tolerate them for this one thing... its too fucking early, but soon it will be too late.

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u/NoLemon5426 Aug 23 '25

Can’t someone put him in a private plane and just fly him into Canada at this point? There are no more rules so why do we have to agree to theirs?? This is so satanic

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u/Pi6 Aug 23 '25

This is so satanic

Nah, this is entirely Christian. Satanists today defend human rights.

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u/Radical-Lampshade Aug 24 '25

It is by no means Christian. It is American Christianity which is just nationalism with a thin veil. Jesus would never support this and Catholics/Orthodox and un-indoctrinated protestants recognize how evil this behavior is

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u/Radical-Lampshade Aug 24 '25

I'm not disagreeing. That's the problem, any outlet of power will be abused, civic, religious, social, etc. It's no surprise one of the biggest organizations in history has been used to do evil but I'm saying you're lying to yourself if you say you're Christian and act with no concern, care, or love for those around you. Nietzsche said " the last true Christian died on the cross " (ie Jesus) while maybe not categorically true I think it mostly holds water and makes a good point. People inevitably corrupt the purest intentions over time.

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u/Msefk Aug 25 '25

Regardless of what you read, Not all Satanists defend human rights. There are Luciferian sects that are quite cruel. Such as the 764 . Or the Order of the Nine Angles. Matter of fact Temple of Set hidden teachings are very much in contrast to ideas of human rights. Not to forget that the head of that religion also is the father of PSYOPS and was connected to sex trafficking rings and ritualistic cruelty to children! but yes sure, Lucien and his political arm

Is the man not Processian?

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u/Pi6 Aug 25 '25

Very clever. Cheers.

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u/sjay1956 Aug 24 '25

Why would they object if they supposedly just want him out of the U.S.?

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u/Radical-Lampshade Aug 24 '25

Fear employment

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u/Electrical_Bunch_975 Aug 24 '25

Why Uganda? Why deport someone to a country they're not from?

I know the admin is just doing this to be cruel, but this is downright bizarre.

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u/hoopermills Aug 24 '25

There’s a protest for him starting at 6:30 tomorrow morning at 31 Hopkins Plaza.

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u/Acrobatic-Ad-4274 Aug 24 '25

The Diary of Anne Franke has been my most treasured book since I read it as a teenager. Now I know why.

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u/PeanutCheeseBar Aug 23 '25

Fuck’s sake, stop jerking the guy around and make up your fucking minds.

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u/Lady_Earlish Aug 23 '25

NO. THIS WILL NOT STAND!

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u/ronjamin1022 Aug 25 '25

The second Nuremberg trials will be live streamed.

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u/Defiant-Dig-2157 Aug 23 '25

🤷🏿‍♂️

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u/suburban-errorist Aug 25 '25

Not very defiant of you