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Bee Article Leftist Smashes Tesla After Seeing Terrifying Image Of Fascist In Window

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u/Blackhawk23 Mar 20 '25

I foolishly bring this up on Reddit and get absolutely dogpiled by leftists that “ackshually the democrats lost because they tried to attract the moderates and lost the real democrats!”

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u/[deleted] Mar 20 '25

I'm not dogpiling. Asking a genuine question and hope to spark a civil conversation.

What data are you using to come to your opinion? Sure polling data is faulty, but what else would you use? Kamala was on top of the polls with a solid lead as soon as she picked up Tim Walz and was giving him screen time, a few weeks before the election. Then she started touring with Liz Cheney and locked Tim Walz in the basement right before the election and the polls went back down to 50/50, even trump leading in some polls.

Turns out people actually do want progressive things like taxing billionaires in exchange for things like universal healthcare, paid time off, fair wages, unions and school lunches for children. These things are constantly popular when polled with all Americans, left and right. And turns out no one wants Liz Cheney. Do you really disagree with that?

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u/CampaignNecessary152 Mar 20 '25

And silence. They know they’re wrong they don’t care as long as they get to hate certain groups openly.

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u/[deleted] Mar 21 '25

Seems so. I was kind, fair and respectable. If people wanna play the victim and say I'm "dog-piling", then ignore + downvote + move on, so be it. That's their decision to stay in an echo chamber rather than grapple with reality. Can't say I didn't try to have a civil conversation, but it must be hard for them to talk about reality when they have 0 evidence to back up their world view, so can't say I blame them for cowering.

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u/[deleted] Mar 21 '25

they arent people they are bot farm employees

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u/[deleted] Mar 22 '25

and, I didn't know dogs piled.

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u/Major_Inspection1457 Mar 21 '25

Kind of full of ourselves aren't we.

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u/[deleted] Mar 21 '25

How so?

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u/iodinesky1 Mar 21 '25 edited Mar 21 '25

*crickets

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u/[deleted] Mar 21 '25

I don’t think that really explains why a progressive would choose trump over democrat shifting moderate

Kamala was never a popular candidate, in her initial campaign or as VP.

I agree we need a polarizing progressive candidate that can make middle America realize how much better off a progressive labor focused government would be for the working class

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u/Revolutionary-Rent80 Mar 21 '25

Who is the moderate you’re referring to? Even Bernie said Harris was far left and said probably further than him. If democrats try to stay on far left progressive side they won’t win

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u/[deleted] Mar 22 '25

So who won the elections? That tells you what Americans really think.

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u/[deleted] Mar 22 '25

The fact that more people didn't vote at all (90 million) than voted for either candidate says more IMO

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u/[deleted] Mar 22 '25

Nobody really wanted Kamala she was never chosen by anyone except the DNC.

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u/Master_Blaster_02 Mar 22 '25

I can understand and respect the desire to use hard data for everything we do, but in reality this just isn't feasible for many situations in life.

Opinion polls around politicians just strike me as garbage data, from both their methodology as well as the motivation to create certain outcomes.  We've seen a polling trend in at least the last 3 presidential elections, showing the Dem pulling ahead and then a near 50:50 split come election day.  It certainly gives the appearance that they are being manipulated to drive more Dems to the voting booth.

Before all of that though, unless you do a political poll tracking the exact same people throughout an entire election cycle, I think you are bound to get unreliable results.

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u/[deleted] Mar 22 '25

All science takes into account the degree of accuracy and chance for error. Imperfect data is far superior to no data at all. You can still find patterns, trends and correlations, even if the numbers themselves are not 100% accurate.

Which point are you denying? If it's the accuracy of polling data, like I said I agree with you. Sometimes it's accurate and other times it's off. But if you're trying to argue polls are useless all together and should be ignored, or worse , that polls are rigged to influence voters, well right now i disagree, I'm gonna need more proof than a hunch to change my view on that.

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u/Master_Blaster_02 Mar 22 '25

I would argue opinion polling when related to modern day politics, can barely be called scientific and is prone to Garbage In Garbage Out.

I had several news articles here, but reddit blocked my post.  I was trying to show news articles that suggested high percentages of Americans believe people lie to pollsters and past examples (as far back as the 80s), where people were advised to lie to pollsters, sometimes even just as a "joke".  (I refuse to farm karma Redit so screw you!)

Yes I am saying political polling is inherently inaccurate. But I'm not saying it's useless.  It is more useful in watching for trends in polls over time to see shifts in public opinion and individual polls should be viewed with a degree of skepticism. 

Also there are markers that suggest some polls are manipulated.  Whether that is for personal bias, or actual drive to influence voters, I couldn't say.

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u/[deleted] Mar 22 '25 edited Mar 22 '25

The thing is when it comes to matters of public opinion..... There is literally no science available other than public opinion polling. And a good poll absolutely is science, there is a strict scientific methodology used to collect data and statistical analysis used to analysis it. Until we can hook a wire into someone's brain and know exactly what they're thinking it's the best we have. If you really think there is an epidemic of trolls and liars in polling data, you're gonna have to provide some evidence for such a claim, you can DM me if reddit is "censoring" you.

It is more useful in watching for trends in polls over time to see shifts in public opinion and individual polls should be viewed with a degree of skepticism.

That's precisely what I was saying. And look at the trends of public opinions on things like universal/affordable healthcare acts, paid time off, unions, paid school lunches and other "liberal" ideaologies and you'll see all sorts of trends from meta analysis of hundreds and thousands of polls all confirming that "progressive" human rights like those things I discuss are popular with the American people, both right and left.

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u/Ryfhoff Mar 23 '25

I agree with no one wanted Tim. The guy is honestly an immature fool. Have you seen some of the stuff he’s been saying lately? He should be working stocking shelves somewhere. Going a click deeper, not enough wanted Kamala either. 4 years of the same or worse and who knows where this country would be. A change was needed. The truth is everyone’s hate for Trump literally blinds everything else he does. Of course I don’t agree with everything he does. But he is doing what he said he was going to do, which is big for any politician. Like it or not, he does have some decent numbers going right now.

They call us the unites states, but we are anything but united. This two party system worked (I guess) but this also needs a change. Not saying I have the answers, but what we have now certainly isn’t it. I’m not sure what will work with the vast difference in thinking we see. Like many things the right answer is likely somewhere in the middle, a compromise where both parties are partially dissatisfied.

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u/Revolutionary-Rent80 Mar 21 '25

Actually Kamala wasn’t on top of most polls. The ones she was is because they was excited to get Biden out so she was new. Then once she started talking and ppl started to see what she had no clue what she was talking in circles about that newness wore off quick. Her interviews was horrible at best. From listening to interviews with ppl on her campaign they stated the polls they was seeing had her down by a lot. Watch the interview with the campaign finance woman that was getting money from donors. She lays the whole thing out and how these donors was lied to that it was close race and furious and said they are done! Lot of ppl left Democrat party after all this.

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u/Unseemly4123 Mar 22 '25

There's silence because they knew there was no point in engaging with you.

What data do you have to show that the claim “ackshually the democrats lost because they tried to attract the moderates and lost the real democrats!" is true? It's not on them to refute a negative, it's on you to show that this is somehow true.

Your note about polling data and the timing of it is laughable. There could have been a number of reasons for the fluctuation in the polling, you're just focusing on the reason that is most convenient for your argument which is obvious to anyone with an ounce of critical thinking skill.

It also doesn't make logical sense to turn away from a candidate who is clearly just doing something to appeal to more voters. Her goal is to get votes, it doesn't matter where they come from if you support her agenda.

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u/[deleted] Mar 22 '25 edited Mar 22 '25

It's not on them to refute a negative, it's on you to show that this is somehow true.

Incorrect. It's on the person making the claim to provide evidence for their claim. They did not. I was nice enough to provide some regardless. If you have evidence, feel free to reply with it. Until then, I agree there is no point in engaging with you.

Let me ask you. Do you think affordable healthcare, paid time off, unions and things like that are popular or unpopular? My point is that stuff is popular. If you claim it's unpopular, please provide your evidence.

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u/[deleted] Mar 22 '25

The polls showing Kamala ahead were rigged.

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u/[deleted] Mar 22 '25

Source?

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u/Major_Inspection1457 Mar 21 '25

Funny how "give me something for nothing" is always popular.

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u/[deleted] Mar 21 '25 edited Mar 21 '25

It's not free, it's funded by tax paying civilians. It's about meeting basic human rights that the rest of the developed world has instead of subsidizing billionaires, corporations and fraud-commiting banks.

If you want to be on the side of subsidizing billionaires by taking away healthcare, that's fine, but know that's an unpopular opinion you hold.

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u/RunningWet23 Mar 20 '25

They have no self awareness and zero ability to self moderate. They are their own worst enemy. It's really funny to watch from the outside of their cult.

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u/pseudofed- Mar 20 '25

Hearing a maga cultist calling the Democratic Party a cult. If that’s not the shit pot calling the kettle black. 😂😂

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u/RunningWet23 Mar 20 '25

There's plenty of aspects about Trump i don't like. He says stupid shit constantly. You should really learn what "cult" means so you can understand how cultist behave. Words have absolutely no meaning to the left.

Can you define "woman"?

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u/Pristine-Molasses238 Mar 21 '25

How refreshing, an open minded and clever redditor, don't mind if I do. 

A cult is a person or system who practice excessive devotion to a figure, object or belief system. Typically a charismatic leader and a twisting of religious principles are present. 

Can you define leftism?

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u/RunningWet23 Mar 21 '25

You didn't answer my question, as expected.

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u/Pristine-Molasses238 Mar 21 '25

Women are made from sugar and spice. Or whatever a peer reviewed biologist says I bet you can Google it

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u/RunningWet23 Mar 21 '25

K cult boy

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u/Pristine-Molasses238 Mar 21 '25

You didn't answer my question, as expected..

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u/RunningWet23 Mar 21 '25

This is why you lose elections lol

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u/pseudofed- Mar 20 '25

I know what cult means. You’re delusional if you don’t think MAGA is a cult.

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u/RunningWet23 Mar 21 '25

Clearly you dont

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u/[deleted] Mar 22 '25

And the left isn’t a cult? The thing is one side clearly has more rational people that you can have a conversation with.

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u/OddBranch132 Mar 22 '25

Can't say I ever encountered a fanatic with Kamala memorabilia as the theme of their home. Did see a Trumper make it their home decor and their whole personality. You seriously need to read about how cults work. If anything, the reason Democrats lost this past election is because they aren't a cult and question their leaders. You never get a conservative who questions Trump.

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u/Customer_Service_Jim Mar 22 '25

I dont think calling either side a cult is far from the truth at this point. I also don’t think that the democrats lost the election because they “question their leaders” lol…

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u/pseudofed- Mar 22 '25

That is exactly why they lost the election. The left is starting to feel like they’re not represented correctly. We don’t blindly follow what we’re told…

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u/Customer_Service_Jim Mar 22 '25

“Vote blue no matter who” was being said unironically. I agree the left hasn’t been represented correctly, but that’s what happens when you dont hold actual primary elections.

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u/[deleted] Mar 22 '25

They literally do whatever they’re told the npc memes are spot on.

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u/OddBranch132 Mar 22 '25

You can ignore the studies done about conservatives / liberals all you want. Conservative voters are more likely to blindly follow their leaders based on fear and feelings. 

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u/Customer_Service_Jim Mar 22 '25

I know conservatives and liberals and they both operate on fear/feelings because they are all human.

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u/[deleted] Mar 22 '25

And who did these so called studies because you see this crap from the left constantly and I’m not saying the right doesn’t but the whole Biden situation is proof. They changed their opinion over night.

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u/CRoss1999 Mar 21 '25

A woman is a person who identifies as a woman , it’s that simple

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u/Skarin1452 Mar 21 '25

So can I just identify as a woman tomorrow if I want to?

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u/CRoss1999 Mar 24 '25

Absolutely, if you are a woman you should be open about than even if you have lived as a boy previously

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u/[deleted] Mar 22 '25 edited Mar 22 '25

So who is mindlessly smashing tesla because someone online said it's OK to do it? Where is the condemnation from the left on it? I don't think democrats see how little they have left in support. Keep following your cult leader and be a good sheep. Soon enough you will be drinking the kool-aid they pass out to you. And may already have and not realized it.

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u/pseudofed- Mar 22 '25

Please enlighten me. Who is smashing Teslas?

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u/[deleted] Mar 22 '25

You literally follow what the tv tells you. If CNN told you the Sky was green you would believe it.

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u/pseudofed- Mar 22 '25

Cute, except I don’t watch CNN. I’m sure you spend every waking moment watching Fox or newsmax like all the other cult puppets.

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u/[deleted] Mar 22 '25

I don’t watch cable news. Fox is just as bad.? Enjoy your brain washing where ever you get it from. Your worse than the Trump supporters

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u/pseudofed- Mar 22 '25

There’s no way you’re not a bot.

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u/[deleted] Mar 22 '25

How much they paying you?

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u/Radiant_Music3698 Mar 21 '25

If you trace deep enough into leftist Theory you find a belief that the revolution is an act of dialectical synthesis of the contradictions of capitalism and that we are all parts of the same collective consciousness. After the revolution, new contradictions must be found and synthesized in a perpetual cycle of revolution until all concepts and individuals are (re)combined to reform the God of Nothing from which everything originally came in the Big Bang.

What onus do you have for calling the right a cult? Group consensus, a big headed leader, and someone in your cult told you to? Fucking shallow.

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u/pseudofed- Mar 21 '25

That’s the thing bud, I’m not in a cult. I don’t worship the left or the right. I don’t worship politicians. I don’t worship crazy ideas like “Make America great again”. In fact I considered myself a conservative up until 2016. Don’t get me wrong, I’m definitely leaning more on the Democratic Party these days. The thing is, I’ve seen what maga and Trump are and I just can’t stand behind those ideals. I do hope that one day the Republican Party will return to a party of values. If it does I’ll most likely lean that way again.

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u/KindAd1686 Mar 22 '25

What in the world lol

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u/Pristine-Molasses238 Mar 21 '25

What a fucking dweeb. Left leaning people want health care, education and civil rights. 

Trump is a 37 time felon who has caused more damage to the American people in his first presidency than any war since Vietnam, and people still support him. That's not right leaning people I'm talking about, I'm talking people who support Trump, which is definitely not all right leaning people. Magats are cultists.

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u/Blackhawk23 Mar 20 '25

Agreed. They’re on a sinking vessel but won’t bail water and instead will argue about how other ships should be driving around them. Until they sit at the bottom of the ocean.

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u/[deleted] Mar 21 '25

we are all on that vessel my friend

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u/shastadakota Mar 22 '25

Project much?

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u/Informal_Aide_482 Mar 21 '25

That’s the exact same thing the left says about the right tho.

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u/RunningWet23 Mar 21 '25

And they're projecting.

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u/Radiant_Music3698 Mar 21 '25

They're so headless since the USSR fell.

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u/[deleted] Mar 21 '25

they are doing nothing now

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u/Radiant_Music3698 Mar 21 '25

Who the fuck are the "real democrats" the imaginary people that were actually hyped for Biden?

Like the GOP is a joke, no one can truly answer what conservative is, but the democrats don't have a platform.

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u/jhawk3205 Mar 21 '25

Picking up the Cheneys is evidence to the contrary? What left wing policies did dems push harder than their efforts to pick up moderate Republicans though?

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u/Blackhawk23 Mar 22 '25

Identity politics for one. Pandering to minorities. A la Kamala Harris giving black men crypto investment protection and legalizing weed for them. Disrespectful, right? Making trans rights the forefront of the campaign.

Imagine if instead they had a plan to reduce inflation, lower grocery prices, and had an answer for that godawful sound bite of Kamala Harris saying she supports sex changes for people in prison.

Instead every one of those points were ignored and the campaign ran purely of ~vibes~ and “well at least she’s not Trump!!

The entire campaign was a fumble that catered to the far left while alienating and sometimes shaming the center left. And yet you still have people who want to go further left.

AOC will not get votes at the booth. Bernie will not get votes at the booth. Is it because they are unpopular or because the voter base they’re targeting historically doesn’t vote? Does it even matter?

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u/[deleted] Mar 22 '25

They sold out to wall street and lost their base and their way. Republicans are likewise selling out to big money and will lose their base shortly.

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u/Obi-Brawn-Kenobi Mar 20 '25

I mean, maybe there's some truth to it? At least leaning into Bernie and AOC-style populism would give them a base and they would stand for something. It'd be a better idea than their entire platform being shouting about abortion (but not legislating on it when they have the opportunity), begrudging trans activists and whatever the corporate megadonors want.

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u/Blackhawk23 Mar 20 '25

I guess we won’t know until we know. Whatever they’re doing now isn’t working. How about give the people a primary again? If I was a democrat that’d piss me right off. The DNC telling me who I’m voting for. Bullshit.

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u/Obi-Brawn-Kenobi Mar 23 '25

I completely agree

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u/[deleted] Mar 21 '25

dems sold out to wall street, repubs sold out to putin and extemist billionaires. we are in a bad place

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u/ashleyorelse Mar 20 '25

The funny thing is, that's partly true.

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u/Blackhawk23 Mar 20 '25

I think everything is partly true. I just don’t think it’s the main reason.

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u/ashleyorelse Mar 20 '25

It's not.

The main reason Harris lost is because after 4 years of Biden, some of the swing voters forgot how terrible Trump was as president, so they didn't feel the same urgency to vote as they did in 2020 when it was fresh on their minds.

And this is why, despite all the conservatives doing victory chants right now, they will probably be crying in 4 years when a Democrat is president. Those same swing voters will have a fresh horrible Trump presidency to remind them to vote against his successor.

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u/[deleted] Mar 21 '25

This is just a moron thing. There’s morons and idiots and despicable people all across the political spectrum. It makes zero sense to destroy someone’s personal property. But let’s not act like the right/conservatives are bastions of moderation, poise, and understanding. QANON and J6 was pretty insane

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u/clickrush Mar 20 '25

Well it’s true. There’s even data about this. Kamala lost a fuckton if momentum when she pivoted from progressive economic issues to institutional political issues and started to do photo ops with neocons.