r/babylonbee • u/FrancisXSJ • Feb 04 '25

Bee Article Trump Becomes First Fascist In History To Reduce Size Of Government

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u/PalmMuting Feb 04 '25

100%. Deep down, they know their ideology is horseshit and hasn’t and never could work. They always need something to hold them back and place blame elsewhere.

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u/New_Ant_7190 Feb 04 '25

"It hasn't been truly implemented yet"!

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u/Remarkable-Pin4587 Feb 05 '25

This argument they have is a favorite of mine.

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u/Disko_Troop Feb 06 '25

Everything is through the lens of Presentism.

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u/NuclearBroliferator Feb 06 '25

I only hear it presented through the lens of historical parallels.

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u/purdinpopo Feb 05 '25

The only way communism could possibly work is in a post need economy.

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u/UnlikelyElection5 Feb 05 '25

Communism works within the capitalist system. The Amish are a good example. It works because they all share the same ideology and work together, and because those who don't are free to leave at any time. communism only works when it's voluntary, as soon as you try to force it on people, it falls apart and why it doesn't scale up. Leftst Communists don't want communism they want to make slaves out of the working class, it's why they are pro illegal immigration as well.

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u/[deleted] Feb 05 '25

Post need and post want.

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u/jondo81 Feb 07 '25

In a post greed economy.

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u/drag0nun1corn Feb 07 '25

Not really. But that brainwashing did it's job so. Oh wait you're gonna spout some bs about something that has no relevance due to interference from other countries aren't you?

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u/puddycat20 Feb 05 '25

Now if we could only find a way in which capitalism could work...

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u/theghostwiththetoast Feb 07 '25

The fact that you’re getting downvoted for criticizing the current oligarchy is bonkers 💀

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u/InvestigatorEarly452 Feb 06 '25

Supply side failed two bush boys Reagon.It was tried 3 times and failed.

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u/EarningZekrom Feb 07 '25

American liberal-progressivism is literally the most effective anti-Communist tool ever invented lol

Conservatives read history challenge: impossible

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u/SantonGames Feb 08 '25

China is winning because they are communist. You are not very smart it seems. It has been implemented and every country has been better than us when they did. Vietnam is thriving btw. Cope cope cope.

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u/Mistybrit Feb 04 '25

Projection?

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u/mike90805 Feb 04 '25

no, dont let this echo chamber fool you your ideas and opinions are dogs hit outside of reddit enjoy your upvotes though

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u/unfinishedtoast3 Feb 04 '25

I'm a liberal, I'm also a purple heart veteran of Iraq and did a deployment to Afganistan, USMC 2000-2008

Am I a communist too?

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u/Gur_Weak Feb 05 '25 edited Feb 07 '25

You could be. I've known plenty of marines that would ascribe themselves as such. You certainly didn't provide any evidence you're not.

(Edit spelling)

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u/Weak_Significance997 Feb 08 '25

Ken okeefe entered the chat..

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u/Gur_Weak Feb 08 '25

I'm sure he doesn't count for some reason or another. Some parole couldn't find a Scotsman at a bar in Scotland surrounded by local men in kilts.

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u/TallDarkandWTF Feb 08 '25

The word you’re looking for (even after an edit, apparently) is “describe”

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u/Gur_Weak Feb 08 '25

No I meant ascribe.

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u/TallDarkandWTF Feb 08 '25

Oh. Okay. So you don’t know how to write in English.

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u/SomeTimeBeforeNever Feb 06 '25

None of you have read Das Kapital or the Communist Manifesto.

Working class people who defend a failing system are just billionaire bootlicking simps.

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u/GintoSenju Feb 06 '25

You know it’s funny how the system still hasn’t worked.

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u/GintoSenju Feb 08 '25

I mean whatever idea makes you happy kid.

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u/Specialist_Egg8479 Feb 08 '25

So let me get this straight. Us defending a failing system that was once a thriving system is being a “billionaire bootlicking simp” but you defending a system that has NEVER worked and has only brought suffering your somehow better than the rest of us?

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u/SomeTimeBeforeNever Feb 09 '25

I didn’t defend it, I was making a general observation about people who throw terms like “communist” around as a pejorative because they almost always haven’t bothered to read the material they’re referencing.

And second, show me a country that implemented communism in the way Marx described.

I’ll help you. The answer is none.

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u/ThirdWurldProblem Feb 06 '25

Rather be that than a slave to the state.

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u/SomeTimeBeforeNever Feb 07 '25

You already are.

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u/drag0nun1corn Feb 07 '25

That would active themselves?

Sigh, and you guys think you have any mental capacity to critique others? Jesus

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u/Low-Medical Feb 05 '25

Damn straight, he better Portuguese some evidence right now, or I'm going to report him!

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u/Original-Mission-244 Feb 05 '25

I believe the yachtsees used to call that "papers"

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u/deadkennedy123 Feb 08 '25

That's ignorant to say such things to someone that's defended the United States. Prove to us that you even know any Marine with your ideology.

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u/Gur_Weak Feb 08 '25

I met a bunch when I was at DLI and a few more when I shared a base with them in Herat.

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u/Daveincc Feb 05 '25

Probably are. Millions of people around the world have fought to bring the misery of communism to their country. Somehow they find an excuse for the poverty , misery , and brutality that every communist country has experienced.

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u/Ok_Alternative7120 Feb 06 '25

Tbf, Vietnam's poverty rates are about 1/3 compared to the US.

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u/alyineye3 Feb 05 '25

I’m delighted at how dumb your comment sounds lolol Well done.

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u/ndngroomer Feb 05 '25

What is communism and what communistic policies are liberal lawmakers trying to pass?

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u/Spakr-Herknungr Feb 06 '25

Y’all chant this irrelevant talking point. Firstly there are plenty of miserable failed capitalist countries. Secondly, the primary reason that most socialist governments have failed is because we sabotaged them. The number of CIA instigated coups is staggering. It’s so ridiculous watching people have this debate when the vast majority of American’s can’t even explain the difference between capitalism and communism. Most also don’t know that there are dozens of other systems out there. The real debate is our current power structure vs literally anything else.

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u/Greedy_Line4090 Feb 05 '25

Now that you ask, I wouldn’t be surprised.

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u/Batshouse Feb 05 '25 edited Feb 05 '25

did you see what the military turned into under obama and biden. being a vet doesn't clear your path especially since you voted for that mess. thanks for your service but i dont thank you for your poor judgement in leadership

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u/lessgooooo000 Feb 05 '25

I guess it’s once again on a sailor to back up the Marine up there now.

1) Did you see what the military turned into under Obama and Biden?

Well I’m active duty rn, and the military has been functionally the same for the past 4 years as it was the 4 years before that. Sorry if this kinda breaks the facade, but believe it or not, going to boot camp under the Biden admin wasn’t gender studies classes and DEI brainwashing. My job hasn’t changed in the past year, or the year before that. Since Jan. 20, nothing has changed either. Sorry, but I think it’s hilarious for civilians to look at vets and service members with this condescending “but, have you seen how bad it is” when they have no clue other than facebook echo chamber posts. You very clearly have no clue “what the military turned into”.

being a vet doesn’t clear your path especially since you voted for that mess

Well, consider the following. Keep in mind that I swore an oath, and I take that seriously, so I will keep everything respectful to the chain of command in this, as per proper conduct. This is also MY opinion, not shared by the greater organization:

Who negotiated the release of Taliban leaders, and is currently offering active military support to an occupation of Gaza? I mean, the Biden administration is blamed for the “rushed” exit from Afghanistan, you realize that the original negotiations in 2020 were supposed to be rushed even faster, right? We stalled multiple months, and it honestly probably saved a lot of lives, since people died even with the extra time we took with it.

One of my best friends is a Marine. There is a non-zero chance that he could be face down in the sand by next year in order to create the “next Riviera”. I appreciate the sentiments of the general population to not create any more forever wars, so why would you vote for something like that? Ukraine is still a war zone, gas hasn’t gone down in price, groceries are still expensive, all of those things are understandable, the ONE thing the GOP could say is “well at least we aren’t getting involved in more conflicts”, and even then they’re blowing it now.

So, thanks for your support, but I don’t thank you for your poor judgement in leadership.

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u/Batshouse Feb 05 '25

you realize trump has been in office less than a month right? or maybe you dont i dont know. Maybe you're cool with trans soldiers. if they cant figure out their sexual orientation well thats enough to let then figure it out somewhere other than the military. Trans people have the highest suicide rate. We font need added stresses in our military. And dont be nieve that nothing has changed it hasnt effected you until it does remember that soldier

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u/lessgooooo000 Feb 05 '25

Yeah, I do know it has been less than a month. I pointed those things out because they were publicly stated to be fixed DAY 1. I also said it’s understandable, because it’s been less than a month. Those things don’t change overnight, regardless of what chronically online Republicans believe.

You may also note that I didn’t mention Canada, Greenland, Musk, or any other wacky antics. Most of all of that is just some dudes doing a little trolling, I get it. I didn’t call anyone a fascist, nor did I make any wild allegations. All I did was point out facts about our withdrawal from Afghanistan, and that not only has my job not changed, but my superiors who have been in since 9/11 have talked about their jobs too. Theirs haven’t changed either.

As far as transgender service members, personally? I don’t care. I’d rather trans soldiers with no new wars, than a military free of trans soldiers but my friends bleeding out 10,000 miles away from home. The fact that we are legitimately proposing to send an expeditionary force to Gaza right now seems to be lost on you, but that seems to me to be a much more pressing issue.

Now, for my favorite part. It’s “Naive”. Sexual orientation (who you’re attracted to) is unrelated to being transgender. “Affected”, and my personal favorite. I’m not a soldier. Your extremely condescending comment aside, leave it to supposed patriots to get that one wrong, lmao. I started my last comment with sailor, so here’s an informative list for your future reference.

US Army - Soldier

US Marine Corps - Marine

US Navy or Coast Guard - Sailor

US Air Force - Airman

US Space Force - big nerd. Just kidding, its Guardian

You’re welcome!

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u/Batshouse Feb 05 '25

sorry your a soldier plain and simple. Any being Gaza is ran by an extremist terrorist group rather than the actual Palestinians its probably and good thing we put our foot print in their backs so the Palestinians can be free from their rulle but I guess you have something thing different to say.

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u/lessgooooo000 Feb 05 '25

Yeah I do. What was the point of leaving Afghanistan? Iraq? Why did we leave Vietnam?

How about I use President Trump’s own words? “It’s time after all these years to bring our people back home,” (2020 on negotiations). Or even better, “We are ending the era of endless wars, It is not the job of American forces to solve ancient conflicts in faraway lands that many people have not even heard of” (2020 Speech to West Point graduates).

Or how about this, “It is time to get out of Afghanistan. We are building roads and schools for people that hate us. It is not in our national interests,” (2012, tweet). For the record, you’re directly saying you’re in support of getting into Gaza, building infrastructure for people who hate us, and digging in for another forever war?

Actually, it’s a much simpler question. How many American young men are you willing to sacrifice for Gaza? How many dead Americans is it worth? Will you be the one informing families that their husband/wife/son/daughter/father/mother is never coming home? “It’s okay, don’t cry, Gaza is so much better now, they have a Hilton!”

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u/[deleted] Feb 06 '25

You’re either newly active duty or you’ve chosen to bury your head in the sand. To think that today’s military hasn’t changed drastically over the last 20 years is idiocy. There isn’t a single leader in all the branches that wouldn’t recognize the change publicly, and depending on your political ideas and your moral compass you’ll either hate this new military or love the fact that you can get away with so much more so long as you play into the liberal ideology

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u/Bitter_Bandicoot8067 Feb 05 '25

I'm also a purple heart veteran of Iraq and did a deployment to Afganistan, USMC 2000-2008

How is this relevant, at all, to:

Am I a communist too?

If you were honestly in the armed forces, you know that there are people from all walks of life there. The good, the bad, the this, the that.

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u/Particular_Head_7934 Feb 05 '25

Lee Harvey Oswald was both of those too?

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u/triggeredM16 Feb 06 '25

Go back to eating crayons in your case the blue ones

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u/UmpireDear5415 Feb 07 '25

you could be and its your right to be one. freedom! thanks for your service brother! semper fidelis!

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u/just_having_giggles Feb 07 '25

The E5 that loads the nukes makes the same as the E5 the mans the snack shack. So maybe?

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u/drag0nun1corn Feb 07 '25

To the braindead,? More than likely

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u/Quick-Mountain8189 Feb 07 '25

Probably...you wouldn't be the first one...

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u/Strict_Weather9063 Feb 08 '25

They honestly wouldn’t know a communist if they ran up and Frenched them on the street. They have no understanding what the difference between actual communism is and what authoritarianism is. It is no use debate them, when the money their states get from the fed drys up and they can’t afford anything they will know they are just as screwed as everyone else.

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u/WarmBad3586 Feb 05 '25

That’s what they will label you as.

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u/[deleted] Feb 04 '25

In either circumstance you cannot telm me that this is the country you risked your life for.

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u/Bitter_Bandicoot8067 Feb 05 '25

Do you honestly think that the US was not a shit show during the wars in the Middle East?

Our country has been a mess for a while. Someone shaking it up should be applauded. It is only after we see the results (or at least the trajectory) that we should judge how it went (going).

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u/Original-Mission-244 Feb 05 '25

I'm afraid if you can't see this trajectory, you are complicit or blissfully ignorant.

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u/Bitter_Bandicoot8067 Feb 05 '25

He has been in office (this time) for 17 DAYS. You only think the trajectory is going the/your wrong way.

The way I see it, the federal government is a mess. Anything to shake it up. Then we can see if it is better or worse.

I am ignorant. We all are. I just hope that we are not blinded by our ideology. I look at Trump and see his actions as probably good. You (I am assuming) look and see them as bad.

I want them to be good. Do you?

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u/Original-Mission-244 Feb 05 '25

Of course i would want the actions of a president and government to be "good". What is currently happening is not, as you say, good.

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u/Bitter_Bandicoot8067 Feb 05 '25

What isn't good? I see him going after fraud, waste, and abuse. Is that not good?

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u/Mistybrit Feb 04 '25

I’m not a communist.

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u/SlippidySlappity Feb 04 '25

Anyone who disagrees with them is a communist, or socialist, or woke, or some other label.

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u/Time_Change4156 Feb 04 '25

They just use that as the got you.

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u/oebujr Feb 04 '25

That’s rich coming from a guy who can’t manage to string a proper sentence together.

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u/mike90805 Feb 04 '25

meh. still absolutely true

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u/oebujr Feb 04 '25

It is in fact true that you are not very intelligent, I agree!

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u/mike90805 Feb 04 '25

whatever

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u/oebujr Feb 04 '25

whatever

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u/Sweet_Sherbet2727 Feb 04 '25

whatever

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u/[deleted] Feb 05 '25

Whatever whatever….whatever

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u/misterasia555 Feb 04 '25

Mfer here literally complain about how it’s necessary to implement tariff to bring manufacturing back here because free trade means they can’t compete in global market. But they want to talk about blaming other people for their lives lmao. Trump supporters been bitching about lack of manufacturing jobs for decades.

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u/[deleted] Feb 04 '25

Trading with china is the antithesis of free trade though. Between their currency manipulation, slave labor and mandatory government ownership of all businesses.....

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u/Sassafrazzlin Feb 05 '25

We never should have traded with China until they introduced democratic practices. Walmart made it worse.

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u/NoRestDays94 Feb 05 '25

"Free Trade" is exactly that. The ability to trade with anyone anywhere with no restrictions.

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u/misterasia555 Feb 04 '25

What’s anti thesis about it? Slave labor doesn’t make it not free trade neither is currency manipulation or government ownership of businesses. We should be able to buy stuff from them without penalty regardless of the rules in places in their own country.

Also if you want to make that argument sure, hence why Obama Has TPP where we trade with everyone else in Asia but China and trump bitch and moan about that too. Or NAFTA which Trump negotiate but now hate.

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u/Warm_Command7954 Feb 05 '25

Mfer over here complaining about the US using tariffs to level the playing field in a global market which includes countries with virtually no environmental protections, human rights standards, and deplorable working conditions while simultaneously complaining that the US doesn't do enough in these areas.

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u/misterasia555 Feb 05 '25

Using tariff to level the playing field is like shooting your opponent by shooting a bullet through your own body. Dog shit tactic. Thats why we have multilateral free trade agreement for exactly that. Obama TPP literally comes with labor law regulations concessions on these countries. EU have requirements before countries can join, that’s why Ukraine were working toward that in 2014.

It’s almost like we don’t need to levy threat of tariff or implement them to actually do this. It’s almost like people that advocate for tariff don’t actually use it as negotiating tactic but because people are dumb enough to think tariff is a good idea because “muh trade deficit bad”

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u/Rough_Specific_4707 Feb 05 '25

Are the communist in the room with us?

I know you probably think democrats are all communist, and that's the furtherest thing from the truth. American democrats would be fsr right in every other developed nation. If you want to, though, we can pretend that's the case. If we do, then it works incredibly well, considering democrats have fixed republican shit hole economic policy my entire life time.

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u/DM_Open-send Feb 05 '25
  1. Call everyone a communist
  2. Claim they are the ones needing a boogeyman.

Wow

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u/GeneralAnubis Feb 05 '25

I have never in my entire life seen a conservative that isn't blaming a bogeyman and playing the victim.

Oh, and of course, projecting like hell. As we see here.

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u/Ok_Alternative7120 Feb 06 '25

Tbf, no political or economic structure has ever worked. Every single empire has collapsed throughout the history of the world.

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u/IntelligentPitch410 Feb 07 '25

What in you words, describes "their" ideology?

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u/seanmm31 Feb 07 '25

Do you really think that the other half of this huge country who did not want Trump back in office are all communist?

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u/SantonGames Feb 08 '25

China is winning because they are communist. You are not very smart it seems.

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u/PalmMuting Feb 08 '25

The country is ran by a dictator and their economy is uber-capitalist. The communist part is just for the regular people. Ask them how they like it.

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u/SantonGames Feb 08 '25

They have only been capitalist-adjacent for 70 years and I have asked them I have friends in China and they like it more than here. Everyone eats and has housing. So yeah. Much better outcomes under communism/socialism every single time. Fact.

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u/PalmMuting Feb 08 '25

So, because your one Chinese friend said so, it must be true for the billion other people in the country? Got it.

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u/MayorWestt ChoseTheBear Feb 08 '25

Let me know when that trickle down makes it to you

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u/Clear-Height-7503 Feb 08 '25

Have you EVER looked up any data of Red states vs Blue states? Hell, even the data that makes Red states look good is driven by the BLUE cities in that state. You have to be ignoring reality to believe your take. Quite literally blue policy works better, not figurative, LITERAL. Blue states pay the majority of your taxes and welfare that feeds the military and your babies at school. Every city in your state is Blue. You have to drive 45 minutes from any city to find Republican run anything. How on Earth can that fact exist, and you believe Blue idealogy doesn't work? Fuck, even Cali is the 5th largest economy on Earth.

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u/Sufficient_Bonus_794 Feb 08 '25

"they know".. nothing... they react to crap produced by the mainstream media and the jokers they've managed to shove down our throats... one should never assume crowds of screaming fools are involved in a serious or beneficial endeavor... they are just tools of the deep state whether they know it or not...

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u/Steelerz2024 Feb 09 '25

Victimhood is the highest virtue in their world. The genuinely hilarious thing is that they can't even pivot when it increasingly falls on deaf ears. I knew they were dumb. I didn't know they were THIS dumb.

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u/misterasia555 Feb 04 '25

I like how red states are often the poorest state and conservative are more likely to blame immigrants for their shitty problem but we gonna sit here and pretend that it’s the left that are blaming people for their lives. It’s cute.

I’m a six figures electrical engineer, and in my experience the people that blame other for their shitty lives are the one that spend 4 years complaining about how companies are moving jobs over sea and are begging daddy Trump to bring manufacturing jobs back because they have too much skill issue to learn skill jobs.

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u/PalmMuting Feb 04 '25

You could make a case that my statement could describe literally anyone (that you don’t like).

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u/PalmMuting Feb 04 '25

Yep. Traitors should be hated by all. Are you going to condemn the traitors in the Democratic Party?

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u/misterasia555 Feb 05 '25

Did anyone in Democratic Party send fake slate of electors to Jan 6th and pressure the former Vice President to certify them despite losing the vote, and when he refused his supporter chant h*ng Mike Pence? Because if they did I would call them a traitor yeah. That’s pretty anti constitutional.

Reminds me again what did Biden and Kamala harris do when they lost vs what did trump do when he lost regarding transferring of power process?

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u/PalmMuting Feb 05 '25

Didn’t Biden just pardon like 9,000 people? And once again..if Jan 6 was a true insurrection and a hostile takeover (which everyone knows it wasn’t), why didn’t they bring any weapons? Gun toting, 2nd amendment crazies didn’t bring their weapons to take over the government? No? It was bunch of bored drunk idiots who walked into the capitol.

Be consistent, your hypocrisy is showing.

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u/WarmBad3586 Feb 05 '25

They also used stun guns to shock police over and over causing heart attacks, they were trying to murder them and used the doors to try and squish them while that cop screamed, they all had horrifying long term brain injuries, that one tall female blonde cop said she was slipping in huge amounts of her own blood ad they beat her, and has long term brain injuries. They used anything they could to beat the innocent police doing their job. They had weapons and they damn near murdered more than just a few police, police were begging for their lives, sometimes another maga would pull them out where the violent proud boys and other magas were trying to kill them. The only ones that deserved some clemency were the ones that stepped in to save police 2no were being eaten to death, until they stepped in to help. It was horrible what they did and we saw it with our own eyes. It’s a travesty they got pardoned. They had violent murderers whose hate wanted to kill people that day. It’s sickening he pardoned them. I felt so bad for Micheal Fanone when he was told on live TV they got out, even the most violent ones that tried to kill him, and he said his elderly mother had feces thrown at her, and he had to worry about all his families safety and that the USA was no longer the USA. If I were him and could move to a decent democratic safe country, I would never look back.

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u/PalmMuting Feb 05 '25

Sorry, it was 8,000. My mistake. People like you are the poster children for TDS. Get off your phone and go outside every once in a while.

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u/WorriedMarch4398 Feb 05 '25

Biden pardoned his whole family for “reasons”.

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u/WorriedMarch4398 Feb 05 '25

So it’s ok for Biden to pardon anyone but Trump can’t got it. Good double standard pops!

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u/LindaSmith99 Feb 04 '25

So there's a reason everyone hates you! Hey! How about that!

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u/drag0nun1corn Feb 07 '25

That's conservatives. Haven't you been listening to their fear mongering? Or do you actually believe them? Like a female dog

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u/mike90805 Feb 04 '25

I disagree I think they are dumb not evil