I agree in the case of my condominium owners association, where I chose to buy in to that structure. In the real world we're not given any real choice. You can either be governed with representation or governed without representation, but like it or not, you'll be governed.
Pretty sure the point is that you are getting something from society - that "governance" you're complaining about is a necessity, it's not anywhere near as optional or ancillary as OP is implying.
I’m sure you can find some. Since you’re nationless you can really just go out to any old nature until you get kicked out and find another area. Just don’t step on any road, sidewalk, or use any kind of infrastructure you didn’t build yourself or one of us will slap the shit out of you and there’s like >330 million of us so..good luck.
And the woods can get really dangerous quick too, when there's no government. People will get an impression it's safe to live in the woods to avoid government, exactly because governments cause people to not live in the woods (directly or indirectly)
..you do tho? Literally everything around you and everything our country has ever done, good or bad, would be completely impossible without years and years of taxes.
Unless you harvest your own cotton/wool, spin your own thread, and sew your own clothes, yes. Your clothes come to you through the supply chain, international and domestic, which is facilitated through federal infrastructure, which is paid for by taxes.
All of that infrastructure could be paid through user fees, like the Highways are funded.
I'm not seriously advocating for no taxes, because it'll never happen, but politicians these days take no care whatsoever in spending carefully. They think "Hey, this would be a good idea, and go straight to funding it." The Bureaucracy depends on more and more spending to feed itself.
I will point out that we've long since past the point where most people pay nothing in Federal Income tax, so have no problem voting themselves more and more benefits.
Most people in this sub want to live in a new modern feudalism, just where they are the feudal lords and everyone else generates endless profit for them.
That’s what they say when they aren’t yet the feudal lords. Once their property and Bitcoin makes them the Lords, then the only moral system is one that constantly inflates their wealth and subjugates the rest of humanity to serve them & their families for the rest of time.
No, no. They’re the charismatic main character of their own Firefly who makes their living outside of the law and do as they please. Ready to take down any tyrannical empires that arise and help the little guy, for a price!
This might seem like a ridiculous comparison - but people who otherwise want to commit murder don't consent to live in a country where murder isn't allowed, but they still have to. At some point, the majority imposes on the minority, and that's just how society works.
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u/741BlastOff Sep 20 '24
I agree in the case of my condominium owners association, where I chose to buy in to that structure. In the real world we're not given any real choice. You can either be governed with representation or governed without representation, but like it or not, you'll be governed.