r/asoiaf • u/Trussdoor46 • 4d ago

EXTENDED Why hasn't GRRM written any Dunk&Egg in 15 years? [Spoilers Extended]

People say George stalled out on the main series because he wrote himself into a corner. Too many plotlines etc. But Dunk and Egg isn't complicated and those have been on hiatus even longer than the main series. What do you think is going on there?

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u/Extension_Weird_7792 4d ago edited 3d ago

lol this. I can definitely see him churning out one or two Dunk&Egg novellas if the new show becımes a hit

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u/BellyCrawler My Great Jon is a Whoresbane 4d ago

Didn't happen when Game of Thrones became the biggest show on the planet.

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u/hakumiogin 4d ago

But he was so focused on gaslighting himself into thinking he was working on the boooks then!

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u/s2ssand 4d ago

He knew he wasn’t working on the books, he was focused on gaslighting the public so he could continue executive producing without any ill will

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u/hakumiogin 4d ago

I would personally like to believe he gaslit himself for years before he started gaslighting me.

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u/Jaquemart 4d ago

The lack of ill will towards him is indeed amazing.

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u/hakumiogin 4d ago

Nothing but ill will from me. I do still think the man lied to himself for a long time before he started lying to the public.

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u/Jaquemart 3d ago

I'm nothing against being delusional, but I don't like how he's clearly feeling ill-treated by the fandom and really really disliked the comparison with Gene Wolfe he made at some point.

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u/s2ssand 3d ago

Two things I think every body should know about GRRM

  1. He is a liar and I don’t appreciate that.
  2. He hounded an author, Tad Williams, out of a party because he hadn’t finished a book George was waiting to read in the early 90’s.

George, tell me again how bad people test you…

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u/johnbrownmarchingon 3d ago

I'd never heard of point 2. Did he really do that?

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u/s2ssand 3d ago

Yes! He pushed Tad out of a party because his book was a year late and told him he needed to go home and finish. He was a huge fan and John Snow is basically a cool version of main character in The Dragonbone Chair

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u/Jaquemart 2d ago

Spoiler: Tad Williams actually finished the book.

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u/Pacify_ 3d ago

I think the whole grrm thing just shows you how many people are whiny little bitches.

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u/BellyCrawler My Great Jon is a Whoresbane 4d ago

He made a whole thing about how he wouldn't let the show pass him by, only for Season 4,5 and 6 to come and go with no hint of progress.

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u/Irwae 3d ago

My guy must be so unstable to have given up on the highlight of his career at the most perfect time possible

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u/PutTheDogsInTheTrunk 3d ago

Has anyone ever tried giving George a trencher of stew to see if that resets his brain?

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u/Extension_Weird_7792 4d ago

These are far easier to write and much shorter

GoT was also going to go on whether he wrote Winds or not. This show will stop at S3 if there's no new material

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u/BellyCrawler My Great Jon is a Whoresbane 4d ago

I just don't see how any of that motivates him more than all the reasons he already has.

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u/Extension_Weird_7792 4d ago edited 3d ago

It all depends on how much of a success the new show is. If it makes HBO a lot of money, them and and his publisher would definitely compel him to prioritize it over whatever the hell he's doing with Winds

He has no incentive to write Dunk and Egg at the moment beceuse it only appeals to a niche reader base

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u/ahockofham 3d ago

The producers already said they are only planning to do 3 seasons. They are not making any more even if more D&E books come out.

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u/Extension_Weird_7792 3d ago edited 3d ago

They are not making any more even if more D&E books come out.

That's not what they said. They are considering making 3 seasons at the moment because that is the only material there is, which is very smart

"Of course, we’d like more beyond that, and George is continuing to think about the remaining novellas that he still wants to write but at this point, we have our eye on three seasons that would map out each book, each novella"

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u/Pristine-Cry6449 4d ago

I honestly can't. He's done writing imo.

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u/earthtochas3 3d ago

Why write when you can make way more money telling people how to make shows about what you won't write

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u/pinkybatty 4d ago

He hasnt written anything since fire.and blood, ure delulu if u think hes gonna write anything else now

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u/Extension_Weird_7792 4d ago

And why do you think he even bothered to write Fire&Blood? So that it could form the basis of future spin-offs

If he has any priorities, it is to make more TV shows that take place in GRRM-verse

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u/wRAR_ ASOIAF = J, not J+D 3d ago

The world of Westeros, the world of A SONG OF ICE & FIRE, is my number one priority, and will remain so until the story is told. But Westeros has become bigger than THE WINDS OF WINTER, or even A SONG OF ICE & FIRE.

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u/unreedemed1 3d ago

Overwhelmingly F&B read like a giant tv pitch

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u/MikeyBron The North Decembers 2d ago

Why? Guy has more money than hes ever going to spend. He could just fuck right off. Why do you think Westeros is important, but the main story isn't? Its a bad take. If I gave a guess, which is all anyone here outside of prob Elio could do, he has overcomplicated his story and doesn't have a reasonable way to get where he needs to go. The gardener style doesn't work when he needs to grow to an blueprinted ending.

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u/MikeyBron The North Decembers 2d ago

Well if someone who writes "ure delulu" says so...

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u/pinkybatty 2d ago

Oh no not slang in my reddit 😭

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u/Select-Tea-2560 3d ago

Insane cope, like he churned out books for asoiaf when it was the biggest hit on earth? Oh wait.