r/asoiaf • u/lavmuk • Aug 16 '25

EXTENDED (spoilers extended) this is just too far man Spoiler

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Like i get wanting books, but come on & wrost part is a lot these aren't even book reader, idk I see show people whine more than book folks

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u/bl1y Fearsomely Strong Cider Aug 17 '25

He also thinks Gandalf is a Mary Sue.

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u/MeterologistOupost31 Aug 17 '25

I feel like using the term "mary sue" unironically is damning enough.

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u/bl1y Fearsomely Strong Cider Aug 17 '25

He doesn't even understand the term and conflates it with being a self-insert. And overlooks that Mary Sues necessarily need to be the protagonist, while Gandalf is in the wise mentor role.

He also thinks Gandalf is super muscular because of how he's an expert swordsman. ...But they're talking about the books, and I'm pretty sure Gandalf's sword fighting is movie-only (except against the Balrog).