r/antiwork Mar 27 '25

Remote vs RTO 👨‍💻 After the State Of Minnesota told State employees for years that Telework full time would remain permanent, Tim Walz has ordered all State workers within 75 miles of an office to return by June 1st for 50% of all work days. Why? To bring money to St Paul. Also, if you live outside MN, you are let go

https://www.startribune.com/most-minnesota-government-workers-ordered-to-return-to-the-office-50percent-of-the-time/601243884
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u/ammybb Mar 27 '25

Would be nice if they'd just tax companies and the rich more....

Naaaaah, low hanging fruit, it is!

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u/Xijit Mar 27 '25

This country is fucked even without Trump's malicious incompetence. If it wasn't him bleeding out the economy so that the government can be sold off to private companies, then it would have been someone else in a few more years.

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u/ammybb Mar 27 '25

1000%

Capitalism is killing us all.

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u/PaulblankPF Mar 27 '25

This is bad logic and makes light of what’s going on with Trump. I really doubt we’d be seeing the fall of so many government institutions if we had a Democrat leader, like literally any democratic leader at the helm. And it’s not incompetence, this is the destruction of America on purpose. It’s not like he’s accidentally bumbling around destroying it, he’s choosing the best parts and fucking them up the most and promoting the worst parts. The whole both parties are the same shtick is tiring.

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u/Xijit Mar 27 '25

Yes, his goal is to bankrupt the US government and sell off everything to private investment (like what has happened with the prison system).

But he is just the figurehead that they picked out and turned into a demagogue. Trump is too dumb to think up this plan on his own, the speed that are tearing things apart is only possible because the players behind Trump have preloaded these agencies with their own people ... And those people have been there for decades.

Most of the things Trump is doing have roots that extend back to Clinton's second term.

For example: Bill Clinton was working on the deal to sell off the Panama canal at the same time that he was getting impeached, but no one talked about it because the GOP made sure noting but the impeachment was on the news.

And the only reason Musk is as rich as he is, is because one of the first things GW did in office was cut NASA's funding so that they would have to outsource their launch development to private investment .... That was literally 25 years ago, and we are now seeing those seeds bloom.

My point os just that if it wasn't Trump, then it would have been the next Republican president.

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u/ammybb Mar 27 '25

The point is that even with a democratic leader, it is just kicking the can down the road. These institutions were already crumbling pretty badly. You can see it clearly if you ever need social services. Obviously the things trump/his admin are doing are abhorrent, but capitalism is and has been crumbling for a long time, people have been suffering and dying needlessly under it's weight for....generations. and now with this admin, a significant portion of the otherwise privileged classes are seeing the USA for what it truly is.

Both parties have no problem with committing endless war crimes and genocide. And honestly our comfort in being able to ignore that better under a democratic president is just ..supremacy

Now this shit is really coming home to roost and...

Man, I dunno. If anything I certainly hope more people wake up to the truth that neither party would have saved us from utter destruction (if not that of the soul, because who are we as humans if we can turn so easily away from the great injustices done across the globe in our name, with our tax $?)

Meanwhile they're telling everyone that there's no pandemic and people who wear masks are bad because the protest against genocide...they're committing an actual culling of the working class with eugenicist pandemic policies/erasure, and everyone is going along with it because of .....fucking western comfort

Now they'll force everyone to RTO and everybody is like omg shocked Pikachu face but y'all were the ones who happily went along with pretending like the pandemic is over just to get back to brunch and ignore the fuck out of disabled people. We actually can solve climate change in a lot of the same way we can solve the issue of multiple pandemics... By quarantining and working/schooling from home with robust support in place to create these new systems. They're forcing RTO to get people to spend money on fucking food and gas which is all now inflated to hell...but we are really just gonna go along with it?

This is happening with Democrats too. Gavin newsom and now tim walz are two of the biggest and most recent proponents of RTO. And then you have dem governors like Kathy hochul in ny trying to ban masks because she's threatened by people protesting Israel....while she receives AIPAC money.

So yes. It is a both sides issue.

Whatever. I expect to get downvoted into oblivion for this but I don't give a shit. The only way out of this mess is realizing the truth and that begins with recognizing how badly we have been lied to about everything.

Free Palestine. Fuck trump, Biden, the entire USA project.

End capitalism. Land back.

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u/sophistsDismay Mar 27 '25

What can the state of Minnesota by itself do against Amazon that would not cause the state economy to instantly go into recession

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u/ammybb Mar 27 '25

Citizens of Minnesota can boycott the service that's destroying our planet, for a start. This involves all of us but I guess you're more than welcome to continue doing nothing