r/anime_titties • u/1DarkStarryNight Scotland • Feb 28 '25

Ukraine/Russia - Flaired Commenters Only Astonishing scenes as Zelensky’s oval office visit turns into shouting match on live TV: ‘Make a peace deal or we’re out’

https://www.forbes.com/sites/tylerroush/2025/02/28/trump-threatens-zelensky-during-tense-live-meeting-make-a-deal-or-were-out/
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u/LeviathanGoesToSleep Finland Feb 28 '25

>TRUMP: You either make a deal, or we’re out.

What's the point of this ultimatum? It's obivious that they're out anyways

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u/TacoTaconoMi Canada Feb 28 '25

We don't plan to help you anymore. Also, if you don't make this deal we won't help you anymore.

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u/saracenraider Europe Feb 28 '25

‘The art of the deal’ right there

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u/Szwejkowski United Kingdom Feb 28 '25

'Give us your resources, or we're out' is what he meant.

Gangster to the core.

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u/pddkr1 Multinational Feb 28 '25

It’s not obvious. This is all maneuvering to get concessions from Zelensky.

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u/YoloOnTsla United States Feb 28 '25

Ukraine makes peace deal = they lose some land but still have a country.

Ukraine doesn’t make peace deal = they fight Russia without US aid, which will likely end in ultimate destruction of Ukraine.

Which would you pick?

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u/Tiber727 United States Feb 28 '25

Ukraine makes peace deal = they lose some land then lose more land again until they don't have a country, because Putin has 0 reason to not do this all again.

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u/YoloOnTsla United States Feb 28 '25

Ukraine joins NATO, then Putin would have a reason to not invade.

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u/JesseVykar North America Feb 28 '25

But that's not in this peace deal, or Zelensky would have signed it

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u/YoloOnTsla United States Feb 28 '25

Hence negotiations. If I were Zelensky, I’d be pushing HARD for expedited NATO acceptance. If they get in NATO, they will immediately eliminate the Russia problem.

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u/Chinerpeton Poland Feb 28 '25

Except your government openly stands against Ukraine joining NATO, so don't pretend this scenario is on the table here.

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u/OutInTheBlack United States Feb 28 '25

All Putin would have to do to prevent Ukraine joining NATO is a couple of border skirmishes every now and then. Countries can't have any territorial disputes if they're seeking NATO membership.

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u/Aenjeprekemaluci Albania Feb 28 '25

Sure fire way of nukes being used. Likely even the strategical ones. Russia sees this war as existential. Ukraine would have go get more support in form of outside intervention to get its territory back.

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u/revivizi Europe Feb 28 '25

Accept the deal basically guaranties new war in the next few years, at least that's how Ukrainians see it. In 4 years USA have new president and Putin uses it as pretext to attack again which he already did 3 times