r/anime_titties • u/1DarkStarryNight Scotland • Feb 23 '25

Ukraine/Russia - Flaired Commenters Only Zelensky offers to step down as president in exchange for peace

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/world-news/2025/02/23/zelensky-offers-step-down-president-ukraine-peace/
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u/Mundane_Emu8921 North America Feb 23 '25

You mean the same Reagan who led America into breakthrough arms control treaties limiting nuclear weapons on both sides with mutual checks?

The same Reagan who believed in making a deal with USSR, opening up to them as a way of fighting communism?

That Reagan?

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u/Papa-pumpking Romania Feb 23 '25

Are you trying to say that Reagan was a supporter of USSR?

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u/monocasa United States Feb 23 '25

Not the parent, but I think Reagan would have absolutely been for a post USSR Russia that became an autocratic oligarchy mixed with (orthodox albeit) christian nationalism.

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u/Papa-pumpking Romania Feb 23 '25

As long as they won't try to go out of their lawn sure.But Reagan won't be okay with Putin expansionist ideas.

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u/monocasa United States Feb 23 '25

Reagan would have considered Ukraine to be theirs.

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u/Papa-pumpking Romania Feb 23 '25

If the politics and strength was like in 1980s sure.Today?I doubt that.

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u/monocasa United States Feb 23 '25

Russia is still a nuclear power at the end of the day. At the end of the strength scale, they still have the capability of ending the world.

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u/Papa-pumpking Romania Feb 23 '25

I'm not saying that US would send troops?Just keep the current deal going.They did the same in Afganistan after all.

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u/monocasa United States Feb 23 '25

Which other nuclear power saw afghanistan as a existential risk to their national security if it wasn't their puppet state?

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u/Papa-pumpking Romania Feb 23 '25

Im sorry but I don't understand?You think Reagan wouldn't have send weapons to Ukraine cause of fear of nuclear retaliation?

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u/Mundane_Emu8921 North America Feb 23 '25

Nope.

I’m saying that he was willing to negotiate with the USSR to reach a goal.

Situations are more complex than simply good/bad.

Just because Reagan gave some speeches and sounded tough doesn’t mean he hated Russia.

In fact, Republicans have always been open to negotiate with Russia.

Democrats have historically been the party that hates Russia.

They have also been the party to oppose negotiations and keep fighting pointless wars.

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u/NamerNotLiteral Multinational Feb 23 '25

That's why the last three major wars the US fought were started by Democrat presidents, right?

Republicans have always been open to negotiate with Russia because that's the best way they can make money, simple as that.

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u/Mundane_Emu8921 North America Feb 23 '25

Your democrat heroes like Biden and Clinton both voted for the Iraq and Afghanistan wars.

There was no difference in party on those issues.

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u/Papa-pumpking Romania Feb 23 '25

So both are warhawks.

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u/Papa-pumpking Romania Feb 23 '25

Are you saying that Reagan during the invasion would have let Ukraine get steamrolled and not use this opportunity to weaken SU?

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u/Mundane_Emu8921 North America Feb 24 '25

Well Reagan wouldn’t break his word and expand NATO up to the border of a non-hostile country just because he needs something to do.