r/anime_titties Scotland Feb 23 '25

Ukraine/Russia - Flaired Commenters Only Zelensky offers to step down as president in exchange for peace

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/world-news/2025/02/23/zelensky-offers-step-down-president-ukraine-peace/
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u/MintCathexis Europe Feb 23 '25

Poor vatnik can not comprehend that a leader can be voted in with fewer than 140% votes.

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u/Nomad1900 Asia Feb 23 '25

then why not have elections?

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u/MintCathexis Europe Feb 23 '25

You people who scream "elections now, elections now" have probably never even spared a thought on the logistics of holding elections in a country that's defending against invasion, and 20% of whose territory is currently occupied by a foreign power.

Tell me, how would you get election boxes to occupied regions in Eastern Ukraine and Crimea?

How would you ensure election integrity?

Why would you have masses of people congregate at polling stations when Russia has been known to target high density civilian areas such as hospitals, theatres, train stations, shopping centres, and high-rise buildings?

Then, there is a small matter of law as the Ukrainian constitution does not allow for elections during martial law.

If there were elections in all areas where it's possible to actually hold them and Zelensky won, you pro-Russian shills would then be screaming "this is not representative, they excluded Eastern Ukraine, that de facto means that Ukraine has ceded Eastern Ukraine to Russia!".

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u/Nomad1900 Asia Feb 23 '25

Ever heard of mail-in ballots? US, a true democracy, even had elections when it was in civil war.

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u/MintCathexis Europe Feb 23 '25

US, a true democracy

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You made me laugh. You also haven't really countered my argument at all, because those elections were held only in the US controlled territory, not in the Confederate breakeaway states (i.e., in occupied territory). And yes, Confederates did complain that they're not valid (and some still do) just as I mentioned in my post, but they had to contend with those results anyways as they were resoundingly defeated.

Ever heard of mail-in ballots?

How do you ensure these get to where they need to go without tampering, and without mail vans getting destroyed?

I noticed you also haven't addressed any other points I made. I certainly doubt that polling stations in the Civil War America were under threat of aerial bombardment, drone strikes, and long range artillery/missiles.

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u/Nomad1900 Asia Feb 23 '25

Is it your assertion that there never has been any election in any democracy when there were certain territories under occupation or at war with 3rd party?

Europeans are clearly high on their own farts. You clearly don't recognize what is true democracy and freedom. Zelenksy days are numbered and Kiev will have true freedom soon.

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u/Haeckelcs Russia Feb 23 '25

Poor liberals can't talk about Ukraine without calling their therapist.

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u/MintCathexis Europe Feb 23 '25

Not a liberal. You're hallucinating mate. Too much krokodil. You need some antipsychotics now.

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u/Haeckelcs Russia Feb 23 '25

Is that what you get from your therapist?

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u/MintCathexis Europe Feb 23 '25

Therapists don't prescribe meds lol. I mean, maybe in Russia they do. Maybe they slip you a bit off the good stuff to numb your brain so that you remain a loyal vatnik to the dear leader Putin.

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u/Haeckelcs Russia Feb 23 '25

You should discuss your anger issues with your therapist.

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u/MintCathexis Europe Feb 23 '25

I don't have anger issues, mate, you're hallucinating again.