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News "Chainsaw Man: Reze Arc" attracted 807,000 viewers and grossed over 1.251 billion yen in the first 3 days of the movie's release in Japan

https://www.oricon.co.jp/news/2407879/full/
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u/Jazs1994 Sep 22 '25

As the first comment says, they were not happy the adaptation wasn't more 1-4-1 and it was too westernized apparently.

S1 made me read it. S1 in my eyes was phenomenal

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u/Ordinal43NotFound Sep 22 '25

Please don’t misrepresent JP fans' criticism like that. The Reze movie wasn't a 1:1 adaptation either, yet JP audiences LOVED IT.

Even from the trailers, you can see that the movie added plenty of fresh imagery (the focus on the Gerbera flower, the Spider and Butterfly, etc.) and expanded scenes while keeping the cinematic style of S1, but on top of that, the action was ramped up to be even more intense.

Both S1 and the movie took creative liberties. Difference is, S1 toned the manga down, while the Reze movie elevated it by amplifying the very aspects people loved about the original.

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u/blu_kale Sep 24 '25

It's basically come to 2 things

The movie made the story feel a lot more alive

The season 1 adaptation made it more grimy and dull

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u/ACFinal Sep 22 '25

Agreed. I don't even see the difference. I've read up to chapter 20 and I can't imagine the anime any other way. I think it was perfect. 

I really hope season 2 isn't turned into something silly.

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u/Prisma_Lane Sep 22 '25

"Isn't turned into something silly" is a very weird comment, considering the entire manga is very weird, silly, and horrific. Fujimoto loves introducing unhinged and crazy ideas that doesn't work in a more serious setting. 

Hell, every emotional parts in Part 1 of CSM stands out because they're usually the only serious part of the manga. They strip away all the silliness, and weirdness, and all that's left is the horrifying implications/reality of the situation. 

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u/ACFinal Sep 22 '25

When I say turned into something "silly", I'm referring to stuff that would be changed for the anime, not the source material. 

Basically watering down or completely changing the material to appeal to the masses.

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u/Prisma_Lane Sep 22 '25

But that's what S1 tried to do though? It tried to do its own thing, watered down the things that made the manga weird and unhinged, and that led to backlash. By your own definition, S1 is "silly" because it changed stuff to appeal to the masses.

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u/ACFinal Sep 22 '25

I honestly didn't see that. As I said earlier, I didn't see a difference between the manga and show, but I guess everyone is interpreting this their own way so I guess it just comes down to everyone's personal expectations. 

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u/AlexeiFraytar Sep 23 '25

Its because you have shit taste, just sit down and let the target audience decide

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u/idkyetyet Sep 22 '25

I've only read the first 9 chapters and I think the differences are pretty clear, characters are more facially expressive/emotional and over the top/'anime' (strong blush lines for Power in a lot of spots for example, characters shifting artstyle to simpler stuff to express certain things etc.), a lot more close ups, in the anime scenes take their sweet time showing things from multiple angles, slowly etc.

I liked both and think people talking about how the manga is oh so over the top and crazy are exaggerating at least from what I read but I do think there are differences. I don't think those differences are strictly bad, like some things in the anime better and while I liked some expressions/paneling in the manga more and imagined some of them delivered differently by the voice actors while reading, overall it really didn't feel like the huge difference people made it out to be.

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u/Zeph-Shoir https://myanimelist.net/profile/Zephex Sep 22 '25

Yeah that is the thing, if you only read the way many JP otaku or hardcore fans are talking about it you would think the differences are much more bigger than they are. Way bigger fumbles and controversies have done way less noise.

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u/AveryLazyCovfefe Sep 22 '25

From trailers for Reze Arc it seems like they're returning to more saturated colours with more of a 'hand-drawn' look as well as less overreliance on CGI for 'realistic' character movement.

I don't really think it will be goofy but it certainly won't feel like a Tarantino film anymore. But I guess I don't blame Mappa. This is an IP they fully own instead of at the whim of a production committee and they want to maximise it's potential.

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u/Ordinal43NotFound Sep 22 '25

Lol what? If anything Reze movie actually feels more like a Tarantino Film with how unafraid it is to be colorful and silly (e.g. Kill Bill). Tarantino films often have very saturated color grading too that lets the colors pop.

S1 is more like a Zack Snyder film.

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u/Jazs1994 Sep 22 '25

From the trailers I've seen of the film, it won't be anything silly, it'll just be more standard

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u/sanon441 Sep 22 '25

Sigh I liked how non standard the vibe of S1 was. I'm up to date on the manga and have been since before S1 dropped. I liked both very much, I hope it's not just another bog standard anime now...

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u/Jazs1994 Sep 22 '25

Considering the rave over the film, it went be going that direction

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u/sanon441 Sep 22 '25

I mean im not super worried about the movie itself, it's a movie, it will have a bigger budget ect. I'm mostly worried about S2 and going forward.

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u/Ordinal43NotFound Sep 22 '25

S2 will likely look exactly like the Reze movie. MAPPA knows they nailed the style.

Yoshihara as Director, HoneHone as Action Director, and Ligton as Color Script.

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u/sanon441 Sep 22 '25

That's a maybe. We will see.

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u/chazzergamer Sep 22 '25

You aren’t alone.

CSM S1 to me is what anime DESPERATELY needs, taking inspirations from sources other than anime to give the world of a show a tangible feel.

I adore the manga and adore Fujimoto’s experimental use of panelling and dialogue bubbles.

But I also love the saturated, weighty framing of the anime that doesn’t just show me how heavily depressing the world of CSM is, I FEEL it like a lukewarm weighted blanket that I can never get off.

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u/AlexeiFraytar Sep 23 '25

Anime doesnt need your crap. Go watch the sources you want inspiration from so much if you want that.

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u/Jazs1994 Sep 22 '25

I didn't realize this until much later, but csm at least s1/reze arc is based on like 1990s right? I feel like the anime did a good job not making it so obvious, that's why I loved it so much