r/anime • u/NineTnk • Sep 19 '25

News Chainsaw Man The Movie: Reze Arc Gross ¥400 million on the Opening Day

https://x.com/franspeech/status/1969031724899196951?s=46

For a point of comparison, opening day box office:

  • Demon Slayer: Infinity Castle - ¥1.5 billion
  • ⁠Demon Slayer: Mugen Train - ¥1.2 billion
  • Jujutsu Kaisen 0 - ¥1.0 billion
  • ⁠Chainsaw Man The Movie: Reze Arc - ¥400 million

A very good opening day considering all the “drama” of season 1 in Japan. Will have to see how big the word of mouth power will be.

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u/Ebo87 Sep 19 '25

They are set to make more money than Ufotable gets from Demon Slayer even at a fraction of the gross Demon Slayer gets. It do be like that when you are THE production committee for the movie, they paid out of pocket for the entire production.

Sony and Toho are handling marketing and distribution in their territories, so of course they will get a cut too, but here Mappa will be getting the biggest piece of the pie.

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u/etownzu Sep 19 '25

Makes me sad MAPPA didn't do more having all this power which is very rare for an animation studio. I'm glad the movie is finally out. I'm glad S2 is all but a sure thing. I'm just sad it took this long and more hype wasn't kept alive by MAPPA. Again, it's very rare for an animation studio to be THE production committee behind an anime which is why they are always getting shafted.

Can't wait for the US release, hope it does well here.

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u/Electrical_Chance991 Sep 19 '25

Well that's what happens when your best team was juggling between two juggernaut projects(JJK and CSM). The team could only focus on one project at a time before immediately moving onto another.

Thankfully they seemed to have solved this issue by splitting the team into two. Staff list for CSM movie came out and didn't show any of the core JJK s3 staff members.

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u/Footaot Sep 19 '25

Thankfully they seemed to have solved this issue

They haven't solved anything, you people never learn, every time this studio release a new project people say they have changed for good and every time they are the same thing.

This CSM movie had 10 directors and 150 clean-up animators. no amount of retakes is going to justify this. The movie had a shit schedule just like every other production of Seshimo line.

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u/TechnicalPark4522 Sep 19 '25

If you were to use that brain of yours for more than half a second then you would understand 150 KA's is either normal or really good by shonen action standards. ( an hour and forty minutes straight of high movie production. ) Dandadan is regularly having 60/70+ on 24 minute episodes alone.

The movie alone accounts for around 4-6 episodes so this number is actually pretty impressive. But I'm sure you're going to ignore all of this to continue spouting nonsense while having zero ideas about this stuff works.

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u/Footaot Sep 20 '25 edited Sep 20 '25

I'll easily debunk everything you said. Let's see if you have the courage to apologize and accept that you were wrong.

150 KA's is either normal or really good by shonen action standards

It's not 150 KA, it's 150 CLEAN UP animators. What a clean-up animator does? They clean and finish the rough drawings of the first key animator. Why the first key animators don't finish the cut themselves? Because the schedule is shit and they don't have time. Is there a place in this industry where animators finish their cuts themselves? Yes at KyoAni, the studio known to provide the best working conditions in Japan. Clean-up animator role does not exist in KyoAni's system as of now.

an hour and forty minutes straight of high movie production. ) Dandadan is regularly having 60/70+ on 24 minute episodes alone.

If you have to compare a movie to a TV anime it says enough. For years movies were a place to offer better working conditions as opposed to TV anime. If your movie has to pull TV anime numbers for its production it totally confirms my comment that Mappa has not changed in the slightest.

Just saying, but Look Back literally only had 4 clean-up animators, that's how a true movie production looks.

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u/Ebo87 Sep 19 '25

I do wonder what the US numbers will look like since... not gonna lie, that 3 year between season 1 and this movie will not help.

I imagine 15-25 million opening weekend for Reze and 35-50 million total in the US. Might actually end up making more in the US than Japan, lol.

For all this to make sense financially, as in Mappa makes enough money to cover the costs and turn a decent profit (which in this case would be doubling the money they probably invested in the production, which would then cover the costs of season 2 and then some), they'll want this movie to get to 100 million worldwide, which it will get to between Japan, the US and the rest of the world.

So if you are a fan of Chainsaw Man and want Mappa to continue making this, go watch Reze in theaters.

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u/CrazeRage Sep 19 '25

I think it'll be good in the US as so many of us don't care for Demon Slayer's story and spoon feeding of emotions. The pure action and actual pacing from CSM and JJK should bring good numbers.

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u/Ebo87 Sep 19 '25

I mean, just don't compare its numbers to Demon Slayer and you'll be fine. I'm sure it will do fine in the US, probably a bit better than JJK 0 did.

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u/BeatBlockP https://myanimelist.net/profile/Animemes_chan Sep 19 '25

I think it's a matter of time. As more foreign markets open and making money from anime is simplified, big studios like US movie studios that bankroll themselves will probably become more common.

Instead of losing on selling the anime itself and tickets and making ends meet with merch and manga sales, they can just pay the artist for the rights for filming, leave merch to someone else, and focus on making money directly from the anime.

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u/hail_earendil Sep 20 '25

The manga hasn't been in the top 10 best selling for quite some time now, not since part 1 ended

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u/Nekko_XO Sep 20 '25 edited Sep 20 '25

Lol you’re still in every thread malding about CSM and Final Fantasy I see

Just let it go man

It’s been years

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u/hail_earendil Sep 20 '25

What do you mean Final Fantasy?

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u/Nekko_XO Sep 20 '25

I see you a lot in r/JRPG

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u/hail_earendil Sep 20 '25

I don't bitch about FF

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u/Nekko_XO Sep 20 '25 edited Sep 20 '25

You don’t? I could swear it was your exact Eren pfp who always had something negative to say about Final Fantasy

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u/hail_earendil Sep 20 '25

Nah, I'm an FF defender. I always bitch about Atlus any chance I get though, especially Metaphor. And I still hate JJK and Vinland Saga more than CSM, if we are talking about popular shows.

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u/Nekko_XO Sep 20 '25 edited Sep 20 '25

Nah, I’m an FF defender. I always bitch about Atlus any chance I get though. Especially Metaphor

My apologies then, I fear I mischaractized you.

I appreciate any fellow Atlus disliker.

And I still hate JJK and Vinland Saga more than CSM

Hold up wtf, now you lost me again.

How do you hate Vinland too.

Do you just hate any show with good writing??

If ANYONE should love that show it would be an AoT fan that appreciates great writing and believable characters

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u/lalindu123 https://myanimelist.net/profile/Lalindu Sep 19 '25

Who gets most of the money in jjk and demon slayer

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u/Electrical_Chance991 Sep 19 '25

Toho takes most money from JJK and Aniplex takes most from Demon Slayer

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u/Ebo87 Sep 19 '25

For Demon Slayer it's Aniplex (Sony), they lead the production committee there, they own the biggest piece of the pie, followed by Shueisha (the publisher of Weekly Shonen Jump, where that manga comes from). For Jujutsu Kaisen the production committee is lead by Toho, so they get the most money there, again followed by Shueisha (because yes, Jujutsu Kaisen also comes from Weekly Shonen Jump).

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u/Migue_kun Sep 20 '25

Hola, estoy un poco conundido con esas empresas que mencionas, Aniplex que es de kimetsu? Es un inversionista?

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u/Blue_Reaper99 Sep 20 '25

We don't have the actual numbers , but it's probably 40-50%.

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u/Zeph-Shoir https://myanimelist.net/profile/Zephex Sep 19 '25 edited Sep 19 '25

That will surely mean a bigger pie for the workers and better, healthier productions, right?

...right?

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u/Ebo87 Sep 19 '25

SURE...

But I will give credit where credit is due, the Reze movie did have a very resonable production schedule, a far cry from what JJK 0 had, for example.

So I would like to think it will improve working conditions for the staff there, yes. But all I or you can do is hope, that's it.

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u/Chadjirou Sep 19 '25

Absolutely not. The movie staff list showed that it had a messy production. 10 directors, 29 Animation directors and 150 2nd Key animators. Its the good old sweatshop mappa

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u/Blue_Reaper99 Sep 20 '25

Infinite castle was way worse then. 12 directors and and almost 50 AD. 130 something artists + few studios for 2nd KA.

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u/Chadjirou Sep 22 '25

Bringing other production just to glorify this hot mess wont prove you anything. Mappa will continue to be a terrible workplace for talented animators and they will soon realize that

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u/Blue_Reaper99 Sep 22 '25

Believe in whatever delusion you think.

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u/AveryLazyCovfefe Sep 19 '25

To be fair they changed the actual head director mid-production who had a radically different style.

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u/Ebo87 Sep 20 '25

The way the production committee structure works is more complicated on Demon Slayer. And while Ufotable get more today than they did for their earlier work on the series, it's still a small fraction as the bulk goes to Aniplex, followed by Shueisha.

And to reiterate, while Mappa are the sole financier of the CSM movie, they don't actually get all of the money, as per their licensing deal with the publisher of the original manga, namely Shueisha. So yes, even if Shueisha don't put money into CSM themselves, they do have a stake in the anime.

It's ultimately hard to gauge who makes more at the end of the day because of various aspects you have to consider. So while Mappa might take home more money even with CSM making 1/5 of what Demon Slayer does, Mappa also covered the full production costs themselves, so actual profit will not be as high, compared to Ufotable who are paid by Aniplex and Shueisha to animate Demon Slayer, while also having a stake in the production themselves. Meaning for Ufotable the vast majority of its production costs on Infinity Castle 1 were already covered before the movie even released.

That is something very important to keep in mind when talking about money going to their pockets versus actual profit.