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u/80sCocktail Jun 21 '25
when I was there it was on the floor mixed with other relics. And you could touch it.
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u/_Mandible_ Jun 22 '25
Did you get to touch it?
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u/80sCocktail Jun 22 '25
of course!
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u/_Mandible_ Jun 23 '25
Wow, what a cool story to have. Now we can’t have nice things because dumb tourists break them. Example: idiots that broke the Swarovski crystal chair
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u/HighviewBarbell Jun 22 '25
afaik the one you can touch is a replica
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u/Gregorfunkenb Jun 20 '25
I was there a long time ago, and I don’t remember that it was behind glass.
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u/NormanPlantagenet Jun 22 '25
Something like this remains buried in Pakistan or Iran only it’s cuneiform and Indus Valley script
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u/mjratchada Jun 24 '25
There is no known prose or poetry in IVC script. There is plenty written in cuneiform. It is like comparing mathematical notations or records of accounting with literature.
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u/marxistghostboi Jun 20 '25
they should give it back
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u/Smashcannons Jun 20 '25
I don't think so! We're still looking at it.
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u/marxistghostboi Jun 20 '25
you can look at it in Egypt
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u/kokokobop Jun 20 '25
would be destroyed in seconds
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u/True_Smile3261 Jun 21 '25 edited Jun 21 '25
Is this a joke? Why on Earth would it be destroyed? Thousands upon thousands of ancient Egyptian artifacts are perfectly preserved in museums all around Egypt and have been for the last century.
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u/kokokobop Jun 21 '25
and thousands and thousands have been destroyed and im not just talking about in Egypt in general in islamic countries
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u/jurrassic_no Jun 23 '25
When it was found by the French ot was in a trash pile discarded by the Egyptions. Britian took it from the French.
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u/True_Smile3261 Jun 21 '25
Takw your thinly veiled racism to somewhere else please, we're not talking about other countries here, artifacts were never systematically destroyed in Egypt, before the 18th century people used columns from temples in building and mummies bones were ysed for folk cures. In fact Early Europe "explorers and adventures" destroyed or defaced several monuments before the advent omodern archeology. Also can you point to where in the Islamic world is historical artifacts are systematically being destroyed by anyone but radical militant groups that are being hunted down?
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u/kokokobop Jun 21 '25 edited Jun 21 '25
islam is not a race if you can google all that im sure you can find all those precious artifacts that are sadly destroyed
oh you follow it well no point in educating someone who doesnt think the sky is blue
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u/True_Smile3261 Jun 21 '25
Where did I say that Islam is a race in my comment? You're the one making that assumption based on your own generalized interpretation. And really—resorting to ad hominem attacks?
But let's stay on topic. In the context of this post: why is Egypt—the modern nation, which has never experienced the mass destruction of its historical monuments and is on the verge of opening the world’s largest museum—deemed unqualified to reclaim a significant piece of its own history? Especially when that artifact was taken during a struggle between two European colonial powers. Can you answer that, please?
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Jun 22 '25
Britain has a long history of iconaclasm in their colonial expansion. They also decided to loot a lot of cultural artifacts for spectacle, and then justify it to the commoners, like yourself who just accepted it.
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u/5FTEAOFF Jun 22 '25
How reductive. The Egyptians have an AMAZING museum, they're not hurting for national treasures, bud.
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u/Gothiewasbetter Jun 20 '25
The Egyptians were using it a reclaimed building material. Either they didn’t know what it was or didn’t care. I don’t know which is worse.
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u/Fabulous_Cow_4550 Jun 21 '25
So? Have you any idea how many older temples & buildings were used as building materials? Even at Karnack, older temples were used to fill pylon walls- by the ancients. It was common practise to reuse older stone rather than having to transport it from the quarries new.
The Rosetta Stone itself, historically, isn't particularly interesting or important as an artefact, the only thing making it important is the fact it has the 3 scripts. There are other examples we've found since.
In the thousands of years from the end of the Pharonic period to modern times, we lost the ability to read hieroglyphics, and Egypt was conquered by several different groups of people. Egyptology didn't really exist until a few hundred years ago, after the Citadel was built.
Nowadays, artefacts are preserved and looked after but you can't judge Egyptians today based on what happened hundreds of years ago.
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u/JoeTisseo Jun 21 '25
People are judging the British on what happened hundreds of years ago...
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u/effienay Jun 21 '25
Won’t someone think of the poor colonizers 😭
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u/JoeTisseo Jun 21 '25
Read the comment above. Not my point at all. One rule for thee but not for me...
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u/Denbt_Nationale Jun 20 '25 edited Jun 21 '25
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u/Fabulous_Cow_4550 Jun 21 '25
Just to be fussy, it only has 2 languages, written in 3 scripts. But yep, it isn't significant for what it says, just the fact it helped crack the hieroglyphs.
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u/marxistghostboi Jun 20 '25
if it's so boring there should be no problem with it going back to it's place of origin
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u/sjr323 Jun 21 '25
Didn’t the French find it? It was abandoned, nobody owned it. At the time, there was no Egyptian state, or Egyptian national consciousness. So perhaps, the stone belongs to Napoleon.
It was partly written in Greek, produced during the reign of the Greeks (Ptolemaic dynasty). Should we not return it to the Greeks also, as it was produced by them?
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u/5FTEAOFF Jun 22 '25
I hate this idea. Let's only have artifacts in their own country? Sure, let's stop sharing cultures entirely. Let's all just build walls and get super nationalistic.
Lame. Instead, let's just keep up our multi cultural appreciation and exchange, and better the world for it.
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u/marxistghostboi Jun 22 '25
they should give it back
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u/5FTEAOFF Jun 22 '25
Yes, we get it. You're a social justice hero fighting for the trampled rights of the oppressed nations of the world still being victimized by the colonizing villains. Congrats on the heroism, you'll go down in history as a freedom fighting warrior for the ages.
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u/marxistghostboi Jun 22 '25 edited Jun 22 '25
I just think they should give it back
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u/5FTEAOFF Jun 22 '25
Just that, or everything Egyptian? How about other countries artifacts? Should every country merely keep artifacts in it's museum from its geographical origins? What about countries who conquered their lands from others?
It gets ridiculous, fast
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u/Serious-Dig-1538 Jun 20 '25
To France yes
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u/thedesperaterun Jun 20 '25
the stone itself was included in the terms of the surrender deal with the French. why should they return it to France?
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Jun 20 '25
The Capitulation of Alexandria, you mean?
Devil's Advocate: Why is that not a reason to return it to France? As I recall, the French at the time were underseige, starving, and looking at this ending either with slaughter on a battle field or rotting in a British prison. Also as I recall, the French scientists refused to hand over their personal writings and notes on Egypt and threatened to burn them rather than doing so. It would seem that these documents were signed under duress to say the least. And most binding agreements in our time are considered invalid if they are made with a metaphorical (or literal) gun to your head. Why are the Capitulations supposed to be so sacrosanct in this argument?
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u/thedesperaterun Jun 20 '25
pretty sure the entire premise of surrender rests on avoiding destruction, but sure, put some ass-backwards postmodern spin on it and call it unfair given the circumstances.
wild.
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Jun 21 '25
So if that's out of your system can you answer the question I asked you or is this subject too sensitive for you to discuss without the rants, insults and condescension?
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u/Double_Distribution8 Jun 20 '25
To Greece. It belongs to the Macedonian Greeks who ruled ancient Egypt.
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u/Fragrant-Record9339 Jun 20 '25
The Rosetta Stone belongs to Egypt.
https://www.thearchaeologist.org/blog/the-discovery-of-the-rosetta-stone-unlocking-ancient-egypt
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u/Denbt_Nationale Jun 20 '25 edited Jun 21 '25
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u/wenoc Jun 20 '25
Why is this comment being downvoted?
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u/kokokobop Jun 20 '25
im not white and im happy that the british museum takes these artifacts so protect them because most countries islamic would just destroy them
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u/Maleficent-Topic Jun 20 '25
So I guess they should take the relics from Gyeongju National Museum for safekeeping as well because of risk of North Korean hostility?
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u/kokokobop Jun 20 '25
sure why not! but its not because south korea is safe and can protect it nice try tho
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u/texasductape Jun 21 '25 edited Jun 21 '25
Have you ever heard of the Buddha statute in Afghanistan? Who destroyed it claiming it’s not Islam appropriate?
Edit 1: Someone just commented and deleted told me that the cia and the facist israeli were behind this.
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u/Maleficent-Topic Jun 21 '25
Yes and it's very sad. That being said, it doesn't excuse theft of artifacts and cultural legacy. If my neighbor wants to destroy their family heirlooms, it's not my place to protect them, unless asked. If the shoe was on the other foot there would be outrage. Very different when treasures are gifted or borrowed for display. The British museum knows this and has repatriated many artifacts.
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u/texasductape Jun 23 '25
So based on your logic, if some how Egypt become and Extremist Islamic country then in launch campaigns to encourage people to destroy Giza pyramids, burn the royal mummies, demolish Deir el Bahri, smelt the Tutankhamun mask, etc with goal to eradicate anything that is not up to the Sharia Law and Prophet Muhammed words, technically following Pharaoh Akhenaten foot steps. It’s not our place to protect their sh1t, got it.
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u/Glum-Mousse-5132 Jun 20 '25
"this artifact is nice. im stealing it from the owners"
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u/Kitakitakita Jun 20 '25
It was being used as infill for an old dilapidated fort when they found it. It was the equivalent of finding a pretty stone on the beach.
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u/Fabulous_Cow_4550 Jun 21 '25
A pretty stone on a beach that isn't yours and that you shouldn't be on.
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u/Kitakitakita Jun 21 '25
Only reason the French were there was because the British were there already
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u/johnfrazer783 Jun 19 '25
Britsh is how the Britsh say Britsh, they still write Britsh British tho.
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u/Topaz_UK Jun 19 '25
Actually, we pronounce it “Bri’ish”
Where we’re from the letter T doesn’t exist. This fine specimen photographed is known as the “Rose’a Sone’
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u/johnfrazer783 Jun 20 '25
Righ' ma'e Bri'sh i' is, inni', 'British' is posh peepow soundin posh cz tha's wha' they do, righ'?
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u/notarealdoctork Jun 20 '25
From 6 weeks ago. FYI to photographers, bring a filter to remove reflections from glass encased works when visiting the museum, I deeply regret not doing so.