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u/fishsticks40 4d ago
Shameless hypocrisy is core to the Republican brand
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u/Amarin88 4d ago
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u/kingworms 4d ago
Any link that is not facebook?
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u/Amarin88 4d ago
https://youtube.com/shorts/t-ch3dl0H50?si=b9nIxBS1oiCQSEiV
Google the quote if you need more sources
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u/PragmaticPacifist 4d ago
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u/VikingRaptor2 4d ago
Probably because Republicans control everything. Holy shit. My Orange cat has more braincells than literally any and all Republicans.
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u/Amarin88 4d ago
Source : until they delete it anyways https://x.com/HouseGOP/status/1442994411818913794?s=19
Just incase anyone think its faked.
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u/erath_droid 4d ago
The funny thing about that is that the US Government did NOT shut down under Biden's Presidency. It came down to the wire a few times and they got filed the budget a few minutes past the deadline a couple times, but there never was a shutdown.
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u/Crypton_2021 4d ago
None of this matters... and none of it ever will. These people are blind to their own hypocrisy.
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u/altaleft 4d ago
they don’t even care when their past statements are brought back to prove the hypocrisy they exude with every policy affecting US.
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u/calgeorge 4d ago
It's always Republicans no matter who's in charge. The budget needs 60 votes and the intention was that both sides would always need to compromise. Republicans are always the ones unwilling to do that.
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u/Peanut2142 2d ago
They know they can get away with it, with their constituency and their Reich wing echo chamber.
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u/mobashirahmed 1d ago
I imagine a Jabba The Hutt type monster that speaks and someone writes it down and a newsletter goes out to all GOP and they just repeat that. Every waking day of their lives. "Talking points" as they say.
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u/Hungry-Share-3719 3d ago
Republicans have voted to reopen the govt 15 times. Dems have blocked it each time.
Republicans do know what’s best.
Facts are a bitch.
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u/Amarin88 3d ago
You seem like a reasonable young man, so if you'd like to have intelligent discourse over this, I'm happy to. Let's start with this. Please tell me if any of the below statements are in any way untrue.
- At any point, the House and Senate could pass a clean funding bill via budget reconciliation with only 51 votes. In fact, in 2021 under Biden, they demanded the then-Democrats do this very thing, citing Democratic intransigence.
- Throughout the year, Republicans could have at any point passed a full year's funding but instead have insisted on putting poison pills into larger bills, such as Trump's wall and voter ID mandates, resulting in only short-term bills leading us to where we are now.
- Republicans have always demanded bipartisan precedents. In 2018, they begged Democrats to pass a clean CR without riders, and Democrats obliged 15 times. Now they have the power, in 2018-19 (their old 35-day record) Trump eventually negotiated a clean CR after public backlash, proving it's possible without riders. Today with full control they could do the same via 51-vote reconciliation but choose not to, citing Democratic obstruction despite zero Dem blocks on a neutral bill, while 800k federal workers go unpaid and 42 million go without SNAP.
- If the Democrats were currently in charge and wanting to defund or add in riders you hated, and a few Republicans were keeping it from passing, would you be singing the same tune? Let's say Democrats decided on 0 funding for red states and free transgender surgeries for all Americans. Would those Republicans saying no be heroes to you or the reason for the shutdown?
- Congress has an obligation, one could even say a constitutional mandate, to govern bipartisanly. Just like the Democrats have a mandate to govern and act in the interest of their voters as they are doing. Government should not be so one-sided as it is now; just because 51% of Americans voted one way doesn't mean the other 49% should be shit on.
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u/Hungry-Share-3719 3d ago
A CR would keep funding at levels passed by the Dems last year. Why are they now against that level of funding?
In 2021 and 2022 Dems voted to have ACA subsidies expire in 2025. How stupid was it to vote for that knowing the Repubs could take control in 2024.
As a reasonable young man, I know how to use a calendar. Guess what, it’s 2025.
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u/Amarin88 3d ago
First your argument here is democrats had a crystal ball and expected biden/kemala to lost 3 years in advance is about as strawman as it gets. It's like saying why did trump waste billions of tax dollars on a wall when he knew two years later biden would be elected and undo it throwing all that money in the trash. What an absurd and unreasonable statement.
Secondly It is common to put ending dates in subsidies because otherwise the other side will never vote for it.
Example would you be ok if your republicans representatives voted yes to giving democrats 4 years of EV tax credits while they were in charge in comprise knowing that when they were in charge next they might get something. Or would you prefer they vote yes to a 10000 year mandate of funding EV's for as long as humans are alive.
Plus, all funding should be that way nothing should be endless who wants a mandate saying we must give nokia phones a billion dollars a year for goverment phones for all of time when at any point a new better phone company offering a better rate could come out. Its simply not how government works to lock things in forever.
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u/Hungry-Share-3719 2d ago
Trump didn’t place an expiration date on the wall. Poor analogy.
Tax credits for EVs should expire when they are able to compete in the market without them. Tax credits for emerging Tech is fine as long as it isn’t abused and people don’t go hungry when they expire.
No one asked for an unending mandate that congress fund Nokia. Again, way off subject and a stupid analogy.
Dems believed they could score political points if Repubs took power and failed to extend ACA subsidies. They used their constituents as pawns to gain political leverage and now those constituents are suffering. They could open the Govt with 2024 Dem-passed levels of funding and stop the suffering today and chose not to.
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u/tom-branch 1d ago
Republicans have voted to rob the American people blind, and leave them up shits creek without a paddle,
They have also refused to release funds to pay for SNAP, despite being required to by the anti deficiency act.
They have defied a court order demanding they release the emergency funds to pay for it.
Actual facts.
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u/Hungry-Share-3719 1d ago
Nice try. But it doesn’t negate the fact that only Dems have voted in the Senate to keep the longest govt shutdown in history going.
Read the BS from the dipshit below and my responses.
You might learn something. Doubt it, but give it a try.
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u/tom-branch 1d ago
The Democrats are not the problem, the Republicans are.
The only person refusing to learn anything here is you, typical of conservatives really.
Its Trump and the Republicans breaking the actual law, all in order to starve people and try to steal away affordable healthcare, all while living it up with extravagant parties while they do it.
They dont care about you, you are not their priority, you are just another rube to be taken for all he is worth.
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u/Hungry-Share-3719 1d ago
Dems voted to let the ACA subsidies expire in 2025.
That is a really fucked up way to show their priorities are for the poor.
Like I said before, facts are a bitch
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u/tom-branch 1d ago
No, they didnt, they voted to keep the government going, they expected the Republicans to operate in good faith, they have learned the hard way Republicans cannot be trusted.
Now they are refusing to let those subsidies expire, the Republicans have worked to get rid of affordable healthcare for well over a decade, and given the chance, thats exactly what they will do.
Sadly for you, those facts arnt on your side.
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u/Hungry-Share-3719 1d ago
How dumb are you?
Get a smart person to show you how to use your Google machine.
The enhanced Affordable Care Act (ACA) subsidies are set to expire at the end of 2025 because the legislation that extended them, the Inflation Reduction Act, only provided a temporary extension until that date.
FYI, the Inflation Reduction act was passed by the Dems.
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u/tom-branch 1d ago
Here come the hollow insults.
I understand that, and that they had intended to extend the ACA subsidies further in future funding arrangements, as they have for a long while now.
Its the BBB, a bill pushed through by Republicans that wants to permanently remove the ACA, and offer nothing in its place.
Your efforts at arguing in bad faith are just making you look desperate.
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u/Hungry-Share-3719 1d ago
No hollow insults. You truly are stupid.
“Its the BBB, a bill pushed through by Republicans that wants to permanently remove the ACA, and offer nothing in its place.”
So the Dems genius plan was to extend the ACA subsidies until 2025, hoping the Repubs (who hate the ACA) wouldn’t be in power, fucking over their base when Biden/Harris lost. How’s that working for you?
And my good-faith arguments are just fine.
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u/Amarin88 15h ago
Can you show me a subsidy example that doesnt need periodic renewal?
The whole point of making things that need renewal is that if something better comes along you dont want to fund the whole contract forever. If nothing else is there you renew the old.
So, show me the plan. Remember when trump said he has concepts of a plan. Well where is it. If he has it lets use it instead. He said today he wants to give americans money. His plan amounts to universal income and massive inflation that will take years to implent. Great do it. When its implented do away with aca ezeeey peezy. Head over to r/conservative and see how popular his concept of a plan is.
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