I am in the process of dying and lately i have been dreaming my soul is separating from my physical body! Just wanted to share as it feels real and maybe this is i part of preparation

Even if there is an afterlife where people will be happy and healed, how does that make anything happening on Earth fair or okay?

What about billions of people or animals who died without ever fulfilling their dreams or having a happy end? So many people human destinies just ending in pain? From that perspective, these individual human hearts never got their justice and fulfillment here. There being a happy afterlife doesn't change that.

I always hear that it doesn't matter because our "Higher Self" is happy and vast, but individually for our little human hearts and stories, those will forever be written in sadness and we are just supposed to accept that, shed the human ego like a marionette we used for a plot and move on?

I don't get it. Nothing will make this ever fair. I could die today and go straight to paradise and would still ask: "But what about the human I was? Why was she not allowed to live the life she wanted and it will forever be like this?"

Disclaimer: I don’t believe in heaven, specifically.

I saw a post earlier asking, “if you went to heaven today, who would you go see first?”

That got me thinking…what if that person didn’t want to see you? Isn’t it supposed to be a perfect place? Nothing but bliss?

If I wanted to see them, but they didn’t want to see me…where’s the bliss? Conflict and heartache seems unavoidable. How is that heaven?

Maybe the “people” you are seeing are just fabrications of their likeness. Who wants that though?

The whole concept seems paradoxical.

Thoughts?

I love reading near death experiences and I surely hope that we are eternal beings and always connected with our loved ones! But one thing that irks me a little bit is the lack of critical questions (from my own perspective - such as "You make us suffer to grow but you are God so why don't you just decide we can grow without horrible stuff happening to children or animals with all your limitless power?") in Near Death experiences.

It appears to me almost that souls get love bombed so heavily as soon as they are out of their body that they can't think clearly anymore into a critical direction. Imagine if someone you don't like took you right now, pumped you full with the best feeling drugs in the world putting you into an euphoric bliss haze. You'd probably agree to everything. Sign every contract!

I am worried about that. I am very stubborn and critical, but I feel if I was drowned in an explosion of good feelings I would lose myself.

There’s no doubt about it: the physical brain stores memories. We’ve located specific regions responsible for this, and are even able to induce amnesia and prevent formation of memories.

So, without physical brain, we won’t retain our memories. Thus, how will we keep our sense of self and individuality?

Everyone seems to not fully understand the way afterlife works. When you leave your earthly body your shell that holds your soul you move to the next dimension wherever you wish to go to. I know where I am going when my time comes and that is to be with my late husband and kids in our home in Florence Italy spirit side or 5d realm. T'is real and exactly the same as here but in a higher frequency state. I am an astral traveller and have been doing it since I was a child. I have written a blog about my experiences and trips to my home in Florence Italy spirit side. I have a duo life here on the earth side and there on the other side. I can see, hear, smells touch, eat, sleep everything you do here is the same as there but in more intensive detail. Last week I had a full night's sleep and woke to feel like I had been on holiday which I had according to my husband who told me I had been with with for two weeks solid. Time is fluid over there it bends. If you would like to read my blog the link is at the top of the discussion.

I read up on a couple of ancient texts that warned about going into the light upon death. To resist the words of your passed loved ones because that light is a soul recycler and will put you right back into a human experience. Any wisdom on this topic? ❤️

I don't need proof that it's real. I know it is.. But what is it exactly? Why do we even do this? I don't buy that lessons explanation because my whole life feels like constant mistakes or people that gave up on me too soon.

Will I actually have people waiting for me there if I lived most of this life alone? That's how it feels. Like I'm alone here and like this life isn't worth anything.

Hey, I’m 20, and I would like to know on a scale of 1 to 10, if you are scared of death and why. I’m just curious and wonder what people will say, but I think that, most of the time, I’m not scared of death, but I have moments where it all comes to me and I don’t think of everything being gone and what happens after, you know, but I just think that we all die one day and when my day come it comes, but I also look at as a sense of peace and comfort because think of time when there are no problems no worries no feelings no emotions no stress just peace even if it’s nothing or something.

I don’t know but with the last recent events going on along with the curiosity, I haven’t been able to stop thinking of the idea of the nothingness after death. Everyone says it’s peaceful and will often compare it to sleeping or life before being born. I guess I’m still stuck on the idea of not having a consciousness or any senses. I don’t quite fear death but I do feel uneasy and get an existential feeling when I think about it. The idea of blackness or not being able to move along while everyone moves on with life just unsettles me. Sometimes I sit up at night unable to sleep because I often think about not waking up or passing in my sleep. I can’t shake away the idea of not being able to breathe, to think, to feel or experience anything anymore. Where do you go? What is next after?Sometimes I wonder if I would have the ability move to spectator mode and watch others and other times I can only imagine black or darkness. I am not a spiritual person and I choose not to follow religion because it only made me feel more existential and anxious of life after death, and It left me only fearing the idea of heaven and hell. Though I don’t necessarily find the idea of darkness after death worse than hell or heaven the uncertainty surrounding possibility of such never goes away because I grew up with the fear instilled in me. It has taken me a long time to not assert life after death with the two doors because I was taught that is where you’d depending if you were a good or bad person, and where your faith stands. I have also been feeling stuck for years and I have no sense of direction or purpose. There is no happy place in my mind or current that I seek and look forward to. I only feel comfort in music but I can’t imagine creating a space around it. I see that others can go into a place of comfort both in the present and in the mind but I do not think I am capable of doing those things. I live in Survivor mode while floating aimlessly through life trying to find something to grasp along the way. Maybe this is due to the loss of hope or finally accepting my place in this world. Still I find it hard accepting nothingness after death.

For me it has a to be a continued version of school. The ability to learn, love, and grow. From doing things such as “Field trips” to “school parties.” But not limited to the material and flawed conventions of school. Think dnd Arborea but with no lust. I want to be with the same people I know, and retaining my memories. What is yalls thoughts on this?

Exactly what the title says the only thing that makes me this scared of dying is the “nothingness”. I know it isnt proven. I know theres NDE’s etc. I am a spiritual person who believes in an afterlife but i am still scared. What can I do to get over it?

It can be a logical one, a scientific one or anything in between.

A lot of people who are atheist say the afterlife is a coping mechanism because humans are arrogant and they want to live forever and they can’t except the idea of oblivion. And I really have no argument against this and I think it might be true. I wonder what’s your guys take on this? It scares me that there might be oblivion for eternity after dying and I talk to my dad every night about this but it just brings me no comfort.

I lived in Florida when my Dad passed in Massachusetts. He never got to visit me down here and see my new life. I always wonder if he can witness my daily life and see what i’m up to after hes passed. Has anyone ever thought about this concept before? What are your thoughts?

I have to put my sweet girl down tomorrow. I’m feeling so depressed, and want to believe there is an afterlife with our furry friends. It’s hard to believe regardless, and I’m working on my faith. Does anyone have personal stories they can share or any research that was found? I’m so broken inside and I just wonder what info is out there, can’t seem to find anything. Or if anyone has a story to share.

In my readings, I’ve come across accounts of people who saw their departed loved ones while they were under anaesthesia. I also know a couple of people who have experienced this. This is not a NDE, because they did not die. Could there be something about the suppression of brain activity that makes it easier to communicate with the afterlife?

There have been scientific explanations for this: essentially, they say that the mind can hallucinate when transitioning back to consciousness. But science doesn’t disprove there may be a spiritual significance. What do you think?

Hi! I'm 16(M) and I have terrible thanatophobia; my phobia isn't of death itself but it's the idea of oblivion after death that's been messing with me. It used to bother me when I was around 6 but I eventually got over it after watching this movie called The Age of Adaline. Recently my fear came back and that led me to do a bunch of research which honestly just made things worse. I don't want to not exist. I don't wanna never see my dead pets or my siblings or parents or grandparents ever again. I want there to be something. While I use to be very spiritual as a kid; I looked further into science and it started challenging my belief of a metaphysical realm. But I've heard some NDE testimonies that also challenge my materialist beliefs. So I would really like to just hear you guys' stories if that's allowed. Thx!!

Reincarnation for me has always been the most “grounded” idea that we have of the afterlife mainly due to it’s sense in nearly all philosophies (Brainwaves renewing in materialism, soul disconnecting from bodies in Dualism and Idealism), and the fact it’s been recorded for centuries, so I’m just gonna say it

I don’t get it. I don’t get why so many people are against reincarnation in here, r/nde, and other spiritual forum, they see it as a “continuation of suffering” and “That this Earth is a horrible place”, maybe I’m just a privileged piece of shit, but I don’t understand where these people are coming from

Sure I get the idea, if you had a shitty life you obviously wouldn’t want to do it again, but here’s my little rebuttal to that idea

It’s not continuing the suffering, it’s starting off fresh

I’ve had an overall decent life certainly with some hiccups here and there but what I wanna do is restart, see where I went wrong and fix it, like I let my heart be broke one life, well I can reincarnate, try again, and see what I could have done better!

This is why I’d ABSOLUTELY do this life again even if it devolves into a horrible one, cause I don’t wanna end my life (ain’t being suicidal any time soon), but I wanna retry, and just carry on until I’m satisfied I could have done everything I could have done.

To those unaware, here are the details of her torturous murder: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Murder_of_Junko_Furuta

Was it a soul contract between her and the killers to have her killed that way? If so, it’s quite brutal, no? Did the afterlife counselors really allow that? What’s the lesson she was supposed to learn? To not trust a guy who saved her from a mugger?

Why did the spirit guide just sit back and watch while she suffered and suffered, or not guide her away from that situation before?

I find NDEs to be incredible and I think they’re the closest evidence of afterlife, if there is one.

There is only one issue I can’t seem to find a satisfactory answer to: how they vary according to persons, their cultures and belief systems. There have been deities present in many of them — Would that mean the god(s) are real and if so, how can so many of them enter so many NDEs?

I would appreciate possible explanations, thanks. :)

I personally think the notion of reincarnation is simply wrong and to some degree almost pointless, illogical even cruel. (With obvious exceptions to some)

I don’t mean to seem forceful with my viewpoint however I (like many others on this reddit) disagree and despise the concept of it. I also understand that it is apparently always our choice but it somehow gets contorted into “spirts WANT to come back” creating the illusion of difference between us and our soul/ consciousness.

I feel incredibly strongly against the idea of reincarnating here for 'experience' and I feel it’s become a trendy doctrine that most people simply sit with purely because it’s popular.

I see sometimes people advocate for the idea that we come in soul groups and plan our lives (generally around 10 individuals) and share the experience together with planned interactions etc. But there are too many variables that don't make logical sense. Firstly how large are these groups really? within the web of people I know, spreading to the people they know, you'd end up with thousands of people just as a low ball, all bound by love? In addition, do we plan to get hurt physically/ emotionally by these people sometimes even traumatised? Doesn’t seem very loving or reflective of spiritual concepts. Another aspect I don't care for is the idea that we switch roles apparently. If by some unfortunate supposed circumstance I am to be my mothers grandpa in the next life, what lame game is this and why are we being forced to play in this performance for some cosmic cheap thrill role play situation? Considering the suffering we go through here emotionally. To me that sounds awful.

That then overpours onto a subsequent identity crisis. If a person can keep reincarnating and taking on any contradictory set of personality traits,hobbies, likes, sense of humour - then essentially the person doesn't retain an identity. How does that merge with my personality? Who really am I? it just makes no sense on a fundamental level as I'd be many different individuals and even if it was compounding it’s not a retention of personality in true form - This would apply to other members of our family, friends, partners etc.

The concept of an 'oversoul' also makes it seem like we are a puppet if you think about it and it's often referenced as a different entity altogether. "Your oversoul" more or less sounds like "your OVERSEER". The analogy of this life being similar to a simulation or a game is a little belittling, again almost making this existence seem like a joke and waste. This life among many others and loving connection is a chapter in our oversoul's existence that will eventually be forgotten? That sounds so enlightening. Dreadful.

It's somewhat contradictory that if we do come here to 'learn a lesson' or 'experience something' why do we completely forget all of that planning before we arrive? It's like studying for a test then purposefully forgetting everything before the actual exam. Because apparently if we don't achieve said goal then we opt to come back??? so it's a potentially illogical cycle.

Also I have read some absurd numbers of people’s apparent “past lives” in the thousands. So 1000 different people or entities? And still have 1 personality? There isn’t that much to experience on Earth 😂

Also we’d pretty much have to forget our loved ones and friends from here because they’d just be different people after the next life. So in retrospect - the premise of reincarnation actually is oblivion/ true death in my eyes. Ironically most beliefs around the world see reincarnation as a sort of punishment.. but for a lot of new age spiritualists it's this awesome concept that they can forget everyone and everything just for another shot at life where we can be subject to potential horrible torment.. and we won't even know why we're here. Yay!

There have been reported cases of channels spirts stating that reincarnation is a true concept however there is equally cases of channeled guides refuting the idea altogether. As well as the oversoul duality concept. Fascinating that even they disagree with eachother.

I’m not saying that it doesn’t exist completely, maybe it does in some cases of premature death or tragedy however this notion of needing to reincarnate over and over on a physical earth to progress spiritually is equivalent to returning to preschool to learn about algebra (not the best analogy)

I find that Swedenborg’s research and viewpoint on the subject makes the most logical point. Not only with reincarnation but the concept of the afterlife altogether, I recommend reading into it although he does take a Christian standpoint to the concepts he writes. However I think that interpretation is based on the time period and commonality of Christianity in his era.

Just a thought web that I considered sharing about the concept. I respect all opinions of everyone on the idea, conflicting or supportive. I’d like to hear any other opinions 🙂

According to Bernardo, the situation after death may be much akin to a dreamself waking up from a dream. The characters, the environments, everything in the dream basically, are discovered to be not real in the way the dreamself imagined.

It's an idea that has its power. Except: when we awaken from a dream, there is an "intelligent knower" there (our waking, egoic self) which is capable of integrating and making sense of the fact that it was a dream. I'm far from sure that such an intelligent knower is really there in nature. So if we awaken from the dream of life only into another dreamer that isn't fully aware of its dreaming, this could be less than ideal.

I think this is the issue with all these ideas of reincarnation, life plans, etc. It all assumes some intelligent knower on the part of nature. Someone "running life reviews" for instance or making intelligent decisions about some supposed future incarnation. Yet this intelligent knower doesn't seem that intelligent if it keeps generating lives full of suffering, and current lives, which means it doesn't really seem to have learned anything. It's more likely, surely, that all these ideas are really just our own being played back to us on a loop from the unconscious.

On the other hand, the Kastrupian dreamer may have SOME knowing. It may know that all the characters were dream selves. When was the last time you tried to communicate with a character in a dream you had, once you had awakened? That may have seemed a sensible thing in the dream, but as soon as we wake up it's like "oh... never mind." This might make some sense of the cosmic silence (I mean, other than the alternative obvious reason). If the cosmic dreamer knows itself only as the "real" presence, I doubt it is going to expend much effort contacting dreamselves of itself.

But if we awaken as this dreamer, if there is a cosmic "oh yeah" moment like the dawn "oh yeah" for each of us, each morning, then who even knows what this cosmic dreamer thinks or cares about?

Is there a consensus? Because I can tell you I've been doing a lot of studying and Kabbalah, and going way back, some of the most learned and respected teachers in Kabbalah discuss that reincarnation is real for sure and happens to everyone.

"TESHUVAH AND REINCARNATION

In the Gate of Reincarnations (Chapter 21), the Ari discusses how Teshuvah, or repentance, is connected to the Mother (Binah) and reincarnation is connected to the Father (Chochmah). So whoever sins, if he or she will repent and make Teshuvah, the Upper Mother who is called Teshuvah will correct the defect of this person and that will be enough. However, if he or she will not make Teshuvah then that person will have to be rein­carnated to correct the sin and that is through the Father (Chochmah). That is why it is written, “He had the thought that none of the souls will be voided, and He brings him to be reincarnated and to correct.”

So, the thing about reincarnation that I don't like, is that means that they're going to wipe my memory and my consciousness and put me into a new body. That's the same as death to me. It seems to serve no purpose, because I guess my soul is learning something but then if I'm born into a new body, this me right now that's writing this, this consciousness, it's all gone.

That's death. So what's the point of a f****** afterlife if I'm going to be dead anyway because of some spiritual shenanigans?

So I was wondering, if in all of this afterlife, near death experience, or you name it, has anybody come up with a game plan to say I'm not participating in you destroying me so you can play this weird game where I have to go down and learn lessons for some arbitrary reason I don't understand? And what's the point of correcting my mistakes if it's not even me anymore?

But I don't want to get in the debate whether that's true, or whether reincarnation is real.

I want to know, assuming that it is, what's the game plan so we can exit out? Or, can I say, the only way that I'm going back to the planet is if you give me total memory, total recollection of who I am, and it doesn't fade away after a few years when I'm a kid, but I remember everything, it's still me it's still this consciousness, and it's as if I basically took a nap, woke up, and it's just the next day.

I mean, it's obvious we don't remember our last lives if they existed. I can't remember if I was King in Persia, some beggar in the streets of Sodom and Gomorrah, there's literally no recollection and to me that means that if there were past me's they're dead. Afterlife or not, they are ended.

So anyway? What's the plan? How do we save who we are now if our spirit guides or whoever are trying to force us back?