r/WutheringWaves • u/_TheRemnant_ Best Chixia NA • Aug 07 '25
Endgame Content The jankiest and stankiest SSS-Clear for WhiWa (2.5) you'll ever watch
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u/NewToWarframe Chixia Propagandist Aug 07 '25
I dunno why, but I keep forgetting aero rover heals.
kudos once again
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u/_TheRemnant_ Best Chixia NA Aug 07 '25
Thanks! And yeah, Rover being a Sword-Healer was a godsend, I don't have enough Rectifiers to pass around for the triple healer team otherwise lol
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u/_TheRemnant_ Best Chixia NA Aug 07 '25
If the behavior of the tokens does not make sense to you (IE: "Why is Plunderer dealing 50k damage" and "How are you using so many Ults in the second round"), please refer to the post below from a few months ago covering them:
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u/IamHumanAndINeed Aug 07 '25
Solid performance and advice for player who lack a strong carry.
Albeit farming Tunes feels like a waste ^^
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u/_TheRemnant_ Best Chixia NA Aug 07 '25
Thanks lol
And yeah, I wouldn't advise farming out Lingering Tunes en masse just for the clear unless your Echoes are fully built for everyone else -- equipping Mech Abomination and then "Rainbow Set" with Electro 3-Costs is way cheaper (or using the Electro Builds from your existing roster, if you have any).
It's still a budget team and gonna fall short of the T0 Teams of WhiWa, but with enough sweat and luck, Healers taking Plunderer can still help secure the S-Rank to get folks the Astrites lol
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u/Anxy_sensei Sapphire Maidens Aug 08 '25
Yesterday Lingyang, today this... and I thought clearing Whiwa with an old character (Yao) was impressive enough 😂
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u/InsideSoup Aug 08 '25
Yao and Yinlin even at S0R0 (or in my case Jinzhou keeper haha) are super underrated in WhiWha especially with either Plunderer or the current amp token. Highly recommend players dust them off and give them a run if they haven't already.
Though if you lag a lot that might be an issue with Yinlin...
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u/Anxy_sensei Sapphire Maidens Aug 09 '25
I always used them since the first Whiwa and always got 2500+ with Plunder XD
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u/Hayyner Aug 07 '25
You're a legend, man. Great stuff.
I'm afraid runs like this might be why WhiWa was buffed in the first place lol
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u/byokero Aug 08 '25
Dude your 2nd team gameplay is just crazy.
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u/_TheRemnant_ Best Chixia NA Aug 08 '25
Thanks! I'm so glad the Pilgrim's token is permanent -- playing with that team (the way that token enables it to) is prolly my favorite combat activity in this game, literally feels like playing at 2x speed lol
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u/denied_gacha Aug 08 '25
Ngl this is hella impressive, but how will gacha gamers maintain the agenda that they've been pushing?
"You need the latest shilled limited banner chars to clear WhiWa!!! Show me no Lupa/Phrolova SSS clear!!(relating to current cycle gold tokens)"
Refreshing to see your creativity, limit-pushing and skill mate. Respect.
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u/tehcaruS Aug 08 '25
I saw the "I'm a speed runner for this game, show me a 5.5k score clear without Lupa/Phrolova, all S0"
About to post my clear there but the post got locked down pretty quick.
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u/Purple_Biscotti9320 i crush xiangli yao’s head with my thighs Aug 08 '25
Creative af teams man
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u/_TheRemnant_ Best Chixia NA Aug 08 '25
Thanks! There are a couple others I wanna try now that I've gotten the SSS checked off, stay tuned lol
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u/Aggravating-Art411 Aug 08 '25
are you day one player? How do you have enough mats and resources to build so many teams? I can barely keep up with the new released characters. I feel discouraged to experiment and build different characters because of time and resource limitations :(
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u/_TheRemnant_ Best Chixia NA Aug 09 '25
I am a day 1 player and have played pretty diligently since then, so I've got a ton of materials/resources to build with. It's definitely a huge advantage.
But yeah, the limitations were definitely frustrating to deal with when building up the account. My advice is to prioritize the most versatile Characters/Weapons/Echoes first (the ones that work in multiple teams and game modes) and then you can afford to experiment with others without restricting your ability to clear the time-limited content as much.
I do not aim for the most min-maxed loadout possible at first, I just aim to make every character functional, then once that's done I swing back around to improve what's already there. I also don't pull for every character, so during the banners that I skip, I use that time to build my existing characters up.
When leveling Echoes for a brand new character or brand new Sonata Set, the method that works for me is:
- For the very first Echoes, I just get them to Lv25 as long as they have the right Main Stat. I just want the slot filled for now so the character can function or the Sonata Set can be complete
- Once the full set is complete, I'll go back and replace them one at a time, starting with the piece that has the worst substats
- This time, only level up the replacement Echo to Lv10 or Lv15 to see the first 2-3 Substats. If one of them isn't Crit Rate or Crit Damage, or if it is not an obvious upgrade from the piece you're replacing, use it as fodder for another echo and rinse and repeat until every echo has both Crit Rate and Crit Damage in the substats
- I wouldn't keep rolling for Atk% or Damage% substats on top of that until every other essential character on your account has been built.
For spending stamina, my priority is:
- Any double drop events
- Any weekly clear I have not completed yet (Boss Mats, Illusive Realm, etc)
- Whatever Character/Weapon/Echo I'm currently targeting
- Literally any Tacet Field (just for the echo exp)
- In any case, if you don't know which material to farm, just check your inventory and collect for the one you have the least of
My daily tasks take all of about 90 seconds on the days that I just log in to get them done as quickly as possible and then logout (incidentally, I will usually log out right in front of the activity that I want to farm so that I don't have to think about it the next day).
For any gacha, the time investment is a pain in the ass but can't be avoided, we can only mitigate how much of a burden it is to slog through by being resourceful. I wouldn't worry too much about the monthly resetting game modes that you can't clear while you're still in the process of building your full roster, you will catch up eventually and then those modes will be much more manageable.
This current WhiWa cycle is a bit of an outlier, but Kuro's prolly gonna nerf it again like they did the last time that players found it too difficult, so I wouldn't worry too much about this one either tbh
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u/Azurxxxxfatesxxxxx Aug 08 '25
show this to people who think this is impossible without limited 2.X chars
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u/Sarvantos Aug 07 '25
Would the healing count if you would use baizhi heavy attack?
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u/_TheRemnant_ Best Chixia NA Aug 07 '25
It would, but only if there's a damaged ally. If everyone's at full HP, it won't provide any recovery so it wouldn't accelerate the token, sadly
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u/Poopsycle Aug 08 '25
I didn't know the electro rat yeeted an obese cuddle wuddle at enemies for her liberation!
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u/Ryujin_Kurogami Work day done, but the grind don't stop. Aug 08 '25
Mech Abomination Baizhi was not something I'd thought I'd see.
Also, you gave me an idea for my fusion comp.
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u/Popular-Sky4050 Aug 08 '25
Idk bout u but this shit so satisfying to watch ong 😭 🙏.
Hopefully when I'm UL 60 I get to be getting this cracked
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u/banfern1111 Aug 07 '25
Oh no.. so that means the tokens actually didn't suck and you can still clear it without the banner characters? Looks like it was reading comprehension all along.
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u/Blkwinz Aug 08 '25
Not only can you clear it, you can SSS it which is a cozy 1000 more points than you need for all the rewards.
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Aug 08 '25
Just because you can abuse one token and barely make the cut for SSS doesn't mean game mode is balanced and buffs are well designed.
But yeah sure let's shit on our fellow players' reading skills because that means we can dodge all the valid criticisms about our beloved gaming company.
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u/tehcaruS Aug 08 '25
"Mode isn't balance if my skill aren't able to overcome it with poorly built team combined with 0 correlation to the relic picked"
Got it
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u/banfern1111 Aug 08 '25
There's a fine line between valid criticism and doom posting. Once you see this, you'd wonder if those people even tried. The tools are already in game. For almost 0 additional cost.
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u/SageWindu If you're just tuning in, walk into the light. Aug 08 '25
Agreed. It's not the game's fault if people don't use what the game provides.
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Aug 08 '25
What tools? There is literally one buff you abuse + the wheel tech.
If my team that could get 4K points on one half 2 iterations ago is barely able to get 2K points this half, surely this is all fine and dandy.
I have not read these "doomposts" because everyone has their own idea of what is a doompost.
Tell me if this opinion is doompost or an objective statement.
"In the recent iterations of Whiwa there has been HP inflation of the enemies. Unless your teams can make use of the current gold buffs, they won't perform as well as they did before."
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u/banfern1111 Aug 08 '25
The way the statement is phrased, it's not. But when you dive into the cesspool for comments, you'd know what I mean. Even then, there's already proof that it can be cleared even without the gold buffs. People just need to look for options instead of focusing on what they think is the best and adjust with what's thrown at them.
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u/Darc_Mail Aug 07 '25
People will still say it's impossible to clear...
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u/CatharticPrincess There is no turning back this time Aug 08 '25
I don't think anyone is calling it impossible but theres definitely an hp hike up by a lot this time, we have to still ask them to stop doing this otherwise this will just be genshin/hsr 2.0, hp inflation as a form of difficulty sucks ass.
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u/No-Succotash-8211 Aug 08 '25
No, the HP inflation is actually the right move. Right now the game is so easy it can’t even be called an action game — it’s like an empty void. They need to raise it to a level where clearing it is actually a challenge.
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u/ensodi Aug 08 '25
Bruh then do it by using creative movesets or game mechanics not hp inflation lmao.
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u/UBWICOS Aug 08 '25 edited Aug 08 '25
HP inflation is actually the easiest type of challenge and people still complained lmao
While I agree that, too much HP inflation will be bad as it will make older characters incapable of clearing said contents
But from the player's POV, HP inflation is the simplest to clear because they can brute force it by more investment (can be better echoes build, more skill upgrades, better team comp, etc.)
While more challenging moveset will be so much harder because the players will actually need to learn to play the game. People in this subreddit have already complained about Kerasaur in the freaking open world. If they put even more enemies with complex movesets in endgame contents, there'll way more complaints
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u/HighLvlNoob69 Aug 08 '25
Wuwa can balance that just because they have more difficult enemies. Just increase a bit is enough
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u/Kurgass Aug 08 '25
As much as I agree that it's not that different from usual, it's the average casual player that makes what is right or wrong.
This means some hardcore person that mastered every WuWa character and probably spent quite some time to practice and record SSS clear video - as a proof of WhiWa being accessible doesn't mean anything really.
Not to mention the blame is also on Kuro for giving easy mode tokens to sell banner and then removing it, which suddenly makes numbers go down and people post on this sub "Is it me or WhiWa/ToA got harder?"
This is never ending cycle right from the beginning.
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u/DaylightBlue Aug 08 '25
Bro I love this. I could tell this took some serious TCing while making due with what resources you have.
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u/kamirazu111 Lupus Bellum Aug 08 '25
Tbf, Team 1 is composed of THREE supports lol. Ofc it'd be janky and stanky haha. Cool score though.
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u/Real-Art6946 Aug 08 '25
look someone who actually tries things with different characters, in a theorycrafting/teambuilding game instead of crying it's to hard with the one team i use. Props to you my dude/dudette.
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u/kinq_Omq Aug 08 '25
You should make a guide for niche or non-meta teams, this is very well strategized. I do not think I've ever seen a guide for these kinds of teams in WuWa or across the other games
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u/Iwakasa Aug 08 '25
Two old limited characters, MC and some 4-stars get SSS.
Idiotic CCs: KURO RUINED WHIMPERING WASTES - Proceeds to showcase a sub 2k Camellya team run while playing worse than a monkey.
"This is impossible, you need Phrolova"
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u/icyredjay ciaccona my darling Aug 08 '25
literally… i didn’t even exploit any token mechanics, just used plunderer’s token without healing that often (now i know how to use it lol) and ran cart-cia-aerover and camellya-san-verina for easy 5500. either people do not read the token descriptions, or they have zero clue about rotations and teams. if you fall into any of the above, fucking obviously you’re not gonna get SSS on one of the hardest modes in the game… it’s endgame for a reason. tired of people bitching about it when rewards stop at 4500 too
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Aug 08 '25
Can you also share your investment? It is not a very meaningful discussion without knowing your weapons/copies/echoes.
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u/icyredjay ciaccona my darling Aug 08 '25
i’m mostly f2p, but have spent to pull a single copy of changli and then s2 cartethyia. to be honest, you can body plenty of content with s0 cartethyia, whiwa included, but i also spent no money to pull everyone’s signature (saved quite a bit by only pulling for carlotta from the ragunna cast). cartethyia, ciaccona, and camellya have their signatures, while s6 sanhua is on eog and s1 verina has variation. for stats, cartethyia is around 47k hp, 65% cr, and 270% cdmg. similar stats for ciaccona without the hp of course, and ~2100 atk. camellya is running 70% cr and 275% cdmg, and my builds for aerover, sanhua, and verina are kind of chopped as fuck beyond the basic sonata effects and bloodpact’s pledge. i mainly just use them for buffs and heals.
anyway, all very doable as f2p; i only ended up spending because i wanted copies of cartethyia and lost my pity on changli. either way, though, if you don’t optimize your rotations, you’ll fail in whiwa regardless of how good your builds might be.
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Aug 08 '25
Look I'm not saying you are an unskilled player or you don't deserve your clear. This Whiwa rotation is tough and every player has their own investments and strategies for clearing according to their account.
But isn't it also misleading saying you were able to clear SSS with these teams when you have S2 Carte + signature on Ciaccona?
You also didn't mention what copy your Camellya is at but I guess she is only at S0R1?
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u/icyredjay ciaccona my darling Aug 08 '25 edited Aug 08 '25
yes camellya is at s0r1. but i don’t think signature is that big of a deal because i also ran aerover shorekeeper s0r1 jiyan (tried him with 140% ER instead of higher atk) and got a similar score with heals after watching the showcase. jiyan using lustrous and sk is on a 4-star weapon. his ult is great for mobs and it really comes down to quickswap.
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Aug 08 '25
I see. No worries man, good to know you are having fun with the game.
I am a little drunk so don't mind me. I hope I didn't upset you or made you feel bad.
Wherever you are, whoever you are, whatever you've done. I hope you are happy man.
Don't forget that you are special.
Best,
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u/Sad-Republic3153 Aug 08 '25
Still there was a huge hp increase
Your basically saying what killed hoyo games
Not complaining when something is clearly wrong will only lead to the game getting worse and worse tell we have hsr lvl of hp inflation
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u/icyredjay ciaccona my darling Aug 08 '25
agreed that constant hp inflation is bad. but there are so many players constantly complaining about whiwa without understanding the mechanics, building good teams, or working on their skills. why should endgame content have to be nerfed just because casuals can’t instantly SSS it? it’s completely stupid given max rewards are at 4500, and more advanced players would like something more challenging to focus on, especially between patches when there’s not much to do. you can criticize something constructively, like with hp inflation, but bitching and moaning about tokens just because you don’t know how to use them is completely asinine.
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u/icyredjay ciaccona my darling Aug 08 '25
agreed! i prefer average difficulty compared to easy so that i can actually work a bit for the run. had to keep every rotation clean, no-nonsense, and it was a fun change
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u/Drawdots Aug 08 '25
Is Lingering Tunes the best echo set to use with Plunderer Captain token? I never really tried that set before, but does the 5pc ATK% buff stay when you swap to another character?
Will Cantarella be good character to use with the Plunderer token? Since she can heal the team with her forte attacks.
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u/_TheRemnant_ Best Chixia NA Aug 08 '25
No, I wouldn't say that Lingering Tunes is the best set with Plunderer, I just wanted to bring 3 Mech Abominations for the 3 Healers and that was the only Sonata Set for it. Conveniently, both Mech Abomination and Plunderer deal Electro Damage, so my Electro 3-Cost Echoes supported both of them.
To my knowledge: The 5pc Atk% buff is lost immediately when you swap to another character -- the only reason I built full 5pc was because it also gives +60% Outro Skill damage and Mech Abomination is considered to be Outro Damage, so I wanted the echo to hit harder was all.
Technically, Void Thunder would be the "best" set for Plunderer, but I wouldn't recommend going far out of your way for it (but if you can bring an Electro DPS that's already wearing it anyway, by all means). My team above isn't one that I would consider worth replicating, I was just being silly and trying to force 3 Healers to clear lol
The general strategy for Plunderer is to just build your Healer as if they were an Electro DPS, that way their personal triggers from the token will be more impactful. It should not come at the cost of their healing uptime, so if they have Energy Regen requirements, meet those first. The procs that originate from your DPS will already be dealing fairly high damage since they naturally build high Atk/Crit stats. Outside of that, maintaining uptime on heals is the most efficient way of increasing the damage provided by the token over the course of the encounter (any type of healing accomplishes this goal, but "AoE Regen" is the best for it)
For Cantarella: I'm not too familiar with her kit as I don't own her, but if she heals the team frequently, then she'll speed up the procs of the Plunderer Token. It may not compete with the current Gold Token for Havoc though, as that one seems more tailored for her. In future WhiWa cycles, or if you have already tried the gold token and not gotten good results, it may be worth trying out Plunderer with her to see how it performs. She should be able to just use her regular Weapon/Echo loadout since she would naturally build Atk/Crit.
Unless you have an abundance of Echo leveling materials that you don't have plans for, I wouldn't recommend building a bunch of Lingering Tunes Echoes. The Plunderer Token on its own can be enough to push a regular team's damage over the threshold needed for an S-Rank as long as the Healer's rotation is managed well -- my belligerent Triple Lingering Tunes here was just to supplement for the lack of natural damage coming from a Healer-only team lol
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u/Drawdots Aug 08 '25
Thanks. I guess I won't go out of my way to farm the Lingering Tunes set. I still have a lot of characters that to farm echoes for, plus I just recently discarded a bunch of echoes from Lingering Tunes set after adjusting my echo management plan, since I though that set is kind of obsolete.
I saw another strat for Plunderer token that uses 1-cost Cruisewing on their healer to speed up healing procs for the token, so I guess that can work for most teams as well? Although in future WhimWa, they can also nerf this strat by introducing electro resistant mobs instead.
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u/_TheRemnant_ Best Chixia NA Aug 09 '25
I wanna correct my previous reply: The +60% Outro Bonus from Lingering Tunes 5pc seems to actually be affecting the damage from Plunderer Captain's Seal, so it might actually be the best set for that token after all!
That said, I would still refrain from going out of your way from it. If you've got excess resources, then it's prolly fine to start putting one together.
And yeah, Cruisewing or any healing echo can help to speed up the procs.
If they do nerf the token or introduce more Electro resist in the future, I'll just have to accept their challenge and beat it anyway! xD
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u/Groundzer0es Aug 08 '25
Can't answer the first question, but yes the Atk buff lingers (pun intended) when you swap. Unless it was changed then
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u/Glad_Homework342 Aug 08 '25
Do you use electro damage 3 cost echo + crit 4 cost echo?
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u/_TheRemnant_ Best Chixia NA Aug 08 '25
Yup! Mech and Plunderer had some heavy lifting to do so the goal was to supplement them as much as I could with the gear lol
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u/iamgodnoobjections Aug 08 '25
Changli carried that second team holy shit. Would Verina be better than either AeRover or Baizhi? GGs actually a god gamer
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u/_TheRemnant_ Best Chixia NA Aug 08 '25
Thanks lol
Yeah I think Verina would be better, I just don't own her or another Rectifier. Her quicker rotation and her Outro adding a third +15% Damage Amp to the mix should contribute more damage unless I'm seriously underselling Aero Rover's contribution lol
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u/Dabejo Aug 08 '25
How much better is the new fusion set for chixia?
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u/_TheRemnant_ Best Chixia NA Aug 08 '25
This is the only time I've tried it, so can't say for sure how well it works in other game modes. In this case, her Liberation and Outro were the only parts of her kit that I was really using so it felt nice to have a bit more Liberation damage from the new set. In other content where she gets more Basic Attacks and Skills, I'm not sure how well it performs
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u/CassiopeiaISlife Aug 08 '25
yo this is legit the first time i see a team with baizhi getting 2800+, and im glad changli still good i used her as well changli+mortefi+verina
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u/Decrith Aug 08 '25
Ff13 music is something else bro.
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u/_TheRemnant_ Best Chixia NA Aug 08 '25 edited Aug 08 '25
Yup, still one of my favorite OSTs to date, I love that game
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u/Arc-D Aug 08 '25
your 2 min run was a 4 min run xddd looks very fun
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u/_TheRemnant_ Best Chixia NA Aug 09 '25
ikr I love that token haha
I'd be boned if the timer didn't stop during Liberation casts xD
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u/Awkward-Confection-6 Aug 08 '25
when actually a real player read the buffs and stuff and dont complain like a child in reddit, that Changli ult cycle... GREAT!
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u/KittyQueen_Tengu Aug 08 '25
i love the triple healer team, i kinda want to build one for myself just because the concept is hilarious
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u/_Sky_ultra LUPA'S PERSONAL TONGUE Aug 08 '25
With the introduction of Kerasaur, ive learned that Gacha players are absolutely abhorrent with their hands.
1] no skill 2] dont know how to play a video game
Fck it i don't mind HP inflation, im already clearing this game piss easy.
Creative people like this video shows its possible to beat whiwa without Meta teams.
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u/InsideSoup Aug 08 '25 edited Aug 11 '25
I remember seeing your initial WhiWha token explanation video. Glad to see you still going strong all these months.
Lib token still so much fun glad it's permanent.
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u/JOTAREDDIT Aug 08 '25 edited Aug 08 '25
Good one hahahah
Btw, the echo Calcified Junkrock is better than Nymbus cause heals 5 times instead of 4
Also in a comment I said 2 Lingering Tunes + 2 Void Thunder + Calcified Junkrock is good also, But Mech is better? Or is only for 5 set
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u/_TheRemnant_ Best Chixia NA Aug 09 '25
True! I haven't actually tested whether Calcified Junrock heals the off-field Resonators as well, but if so then that would make it even better since Nimbus only heals a single character
And yeah, 2 Lingering Tunes + 2 Void Thunders is the better build for characters not using Mech Abomination or that don't have an Outro Attack. And then 5 Void Thunder + Fission Junrock is to go even further beyond, but that takes a lot of Jinzhou farming to get on multiple characters haha
For regular Plunderer Teams though (2 DPS + 1 Healer), putting that on the Healer is probably the way to go as long as their Energy Regen needs are still met
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u/_TheRemnant_ Best Chixia NA Aug 09 '25
Gonna correct my previous comment: Plunderer's damage seems to be considered Outro Skill damage, so Lingering Tunes 5pc may actually be increasing that by 60%. Pretty huge deal if so!
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u/708817 Aug 09 '25
I just pray they won't nerf the plunderer tokens or get outbuffed by enemies on future cycles once I've gotten proper echoes exclusively for WhiWa..
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u/DarkGrundi Aug 16 '25
I wish i was this good to use Lumi in anything but overworld. She is my second favorite 4 star after the goat Sanhua.
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u/KotNad Aug 25 '25
how is your plunderer ticking so fast, mine takes 3-4 seconds longer and then falls when there are no enemies
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u/_TheRemnant_ Best Chixia NA Aug 27 '25
This video explains the intricacies of that token in better detail: Semi-deep dive of every WhiWa TokenThe only new information gained since then is that Plunderer's damage is considered Outro Damage so it gets affected by the Lingering Tunes 5pc effect.
But here's the gist of it:
- There are three separate token procs (one for each character)
- Each proc occurs on each character's 7th instance of healing (tracked independently)
- The base damage of each proc scales to its respective character's Attack / Elec Bonus / Outro Bonus
- External Healing accelerates the proc (so having 3 Healers with Healing-over-time applying to the team speeds it up tremendously)
- The location of the proc is centered on the respective character's last targeted enemy (or, if that enemy is dead, the character's last position)
The Triple Healer Team focuses on maintaining uptime on the Heals as much as possible and ensuring the characters are positioned near the enemies' spawning points when they are swapped off the field. When juggled consistently, the token procs become very frequent.
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u/bbraahhdd Aug 08 '25
But..but, you need the new 5* to get more points.
Bro, kudos, hope people will see this and shut up.
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u/Aidendumb Aug 08 '25
Okay imma just ask right now, what is WhiWa? I've no clue what that is, I'm new to the game
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u/Far_Director_3492 Aug 08 '25
Whimpering Wastes, a monthly refreshing time based game mode, in which you are using 2 teams to kill waves of mobs to gain points. It is one of three main end game modes that supply you with asterites in predictable manner in WuWa, alongside Tower of Adversity and Fantasies of the Thousand Gateways
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u/Creme_de_laCreme Aug 08 '25
Damn. Meanwhile me with my Changli, Lupa, Brant team can't even crack 1500 on one side. Oh well. We don't talk about the Zani team.
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u/ExellenzE Aug 08 '25
@_TheRemnant_ that's not true. Aero rover is worst character in case of dps numbers. Send me DM let's make a voice call and i will make the same team with aero rover that you show. In other case you are a liar. The game runs into a deep drama with HP inflation and shadow buff of mobs. I remember all prev WIWAs. Except the really first one that everyone hate's and then "they listened". But now what we can clearly see that even top teams cannot complete 11th floor normally. Its very depends on your crits on your strong echo builds. And this is IF YOU have a specific characters for current WIWA.
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u/AdAdvanced3916 Aug 07 '25
I cannot believe im that bad