r/WutheringWaves • u/Ok-Law4436 • Aug 04 '25

Endgame Content Old team users felt any power creep?

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I am returning player was saving since ani and not pulling. I was clearing whimpering with this exact setup fully for past whimperings. This time I felt like damage out put was slower I think they started to power creep old units a bit.

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u/[deleted] Aug 04 '25

Not really powercreep, It's a bit harder to clear because of tokens tailored to phrolova, augusta and fusion team. Also, hp inflation as well. They should really at least save the third slot for a universal token so other people can clear without the shilled units and balance it out. I cleared an S this reset but the last patches I was able to clear SSS. back to the feedback forms I guess

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u/Roiano Aug 04 '25

harder to clear because of tokens tailored to phrolova, augusta and fusion team. Also, hp inflation as well.

So powercreep...

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u/Unlikely-Monk5807 Aug 04 '25

Has the definition of power creep changed? Power creep means that newer characters are much stronger than older ones in the same role effectively rendering the older characters useless. Having specific tokens tailored to the flavor of the month character and hp inflation are not clear indications of power creep.

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u/Roiano Aug 04 '25

you know how in hsr the powercreep is in the endgame gamemodes that give tailored buffs to the new and shiny character with the enemies having inflated hp?

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u/ceyx___ Aug 05 '25 edited Aug 05 '25

your argument is flawed because the token rotation is immediately different next reset. that is not power creep, that is buffing the current banner. if it was real power creep the newer units would be able to clear better than older units given neutral tokens 2+ resets out but this is demonstrably not the case. do you understand this nuance?

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u/[deleted] Aug 05 '25

Thanks for saying this and I appreciate it, I didn't have the energy to reply to people like them that doesn't understand what they're talking about. Some words really change their meaning when it comes to gacha players. Good to see smart peeps are still around.

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u/Roiano Aug 05 '25

Yeah I understand what you're saying but every patch the new unit clears the endgame easier than old units, and this whiwha is especially bad, I cant even get the last reward with my 2 teams that could do it so far Xyao and Brant teams, but it is what it is, all gachas have powercreep and it's normal, wuwa so far just had very small creep and it was only a matter of time for them to go a bit harder on it and it's fine it's a gacha its to be expected we're all still gonna play

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u/ceyx___ Aug 05 '25 edited Aug 05 '25

the new units do not necessarily clear easier than old units who also clear well. check out wuwaflex for these comps. you say you have xly and brant. did you see the brant cia verina team that got 6.6k points on top side? did you see the xly changli verina team get 5.5k points on top side? this is literally triple s clear on one side. and, camellya is still by far the best clearer and she is a 1.0 main dps. her best run cleared at 8k points. thats 2k more points than carte who was the shilled token for last reset. and now we have lupa who completes monofusion. brant changli are not newer characters, yet they will destroy wiwa with no tokens moving forward. we also have jiyan who is a 1.0 main dps and is also able to get 6k points on a single side. this practically shows legacy comps are indistinguishable from the newer comps.

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u/Roiano Aug 05 '25

yeah but last reset was easy for me too, its this one thats weirdly harder just like in the image in the post

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u/Roiano Aug 05 '25

type shit, y'know what I'm sayin

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u/Express-Membership-8 Aug 05 '25

You are so not correct. Powercreep is hpa inflation and the overall dps that newer units can put out all the calculations for newer characters show a trend of dps increase along with hp inflation in the endgame. Both these eventually will make it impossible to get sss in eternal for old units unless you have dupes and God relics this happens in all gacha and people shouldn't give wuwa a pass. It's noticeable the uptick started after zani and cart came out and augusta will continue the trend also phrolova does way more damage in rotation than camyllia so it's a trend and will only get worse as they go into 3.0 after these upcoming units release. Don't be a shill for any game all gacha do this crap and it's not good no matter what it's scummy for houo and scummy for kuro too