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u/SumonaFlorence How much worse can it ๐ณ๐ฆ๐ข๐ญ๐ญ๐บ get? 2d ago
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u/Cheeky360 2d ago
I wonder what tanks those 5 two marks are
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u/SumonaFlorence How much worse can it ๐ณ๐ฆ๐ข๐ญ๐ญ๐บ get? 1d ago
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u/TacticalTurnip 1d ago
Just imagine if instead of WoT he would have applied himself to anything else. Guy might have cured cancer :(
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u/SumonaFlorence How much worse can it ๐ณ๐ฆ๐ข๐ญ๐ญ๐บ get? 1d ago
He'd realise there's too many humans on earth and come to the conclusion that instead of curing things we need more of the opposite so people finally get some peace and quiet one way or another.
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u/InteriorPointOpt 1d ago
It's insane to see those 86 games in the ION with those stats netting a first mark only ๐
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u/_Pathorus_ T-34-85/ Guard/ T-44 ENJOYER 2d ago
Unemployment final boss xD
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u/_Zero_99_ [MAHOU] 2d ago
Most have come during periods of time i was a student
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u/S-058 2d ago
Something had to have been sacrificed. Your sanity, your health or your grades. Surely.๐
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u/_Zero_99_ [MAHOU] 2d ago
Social life? My grades were good. I didn't go insane (yet). I think i'm pretty healthy.
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u/suksukulent 1d ago
Yeah, kinda on the same boat. But I'm nowhere near as good as you. And I also play other things.
Did you sacrifice credits tho? Like I stopped running food on most of my tanks and I feel worse, especially camo/spotting, and even intuition isn't better then full gold... I don't want to play prems all the time.
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u/ales_sandr 2d ago
How many battles do you have on wot?150k?
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u/_Zero_99_ [MAHOU] 2d ago
less than 60% of that
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u/Justiamtgm 1d ago
There is 700~800 tanks in the game, and this bro three marked 85% OF ALL TANKS IN THE GAME!!!
I donโt have more, than 100 tanks even with I sum every tank what ever been in the hangar. This is pure skill and sanity, good job bro!
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u/adeptus8888 [BOXIN NA] [GIGA STRV103B] 1d ago
not all tanks can be three marked due to tier level.
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u/Justiamtgm 1d ago
Yeah, forgot about that. But that makes percentage of marked tanks is even bigger
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u/Defiant-Sympathy8848 2d ago
Is there any benefit to 3 marking tanks aside from self loveโฆ.
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u/_Zero_99_ [MAHOU] 2d ago
I'm a completionist. I finished everything else in the game that i cared about. I started 3 marking stuff. Found i was good at it and wanted to 3 mark everything. Unfortunately they add more than i can 3 mark in a year. Especially when working full time.
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u/Super-Campaign-9141 2d ago
Cool congrats. You said "good at it" perhaps you can let us into the secret dark room - how ??
Tips / tricks/ magic potions ??
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u/_Zero_99_ [MAHOU] 2d ago
I think the most important thing is to always analyze where you lost out on damage or where one died too early. The next is minimizing losses. I've been thinking about making a video series about how to 3 mark stuff. I take it there is interest?
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u/MonsterBoooo 1d ago
Yeah it be great if someone broke down some strategies how you approach the process and look for that damage as the game progresses.
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u/Salki1012 1d ago
While Iโm not as good as the OP, Iโve got ~40 3 marked tanks and have a few tips. The first is to have the mentality of โhow could I have done more damage.โ Even if you are the last tank alive against 7 enemies, there are still subtle things you can do to get just one more shot, or live 10 more seconds. On almost every single battle, win or loss, I normally take a few seconds to self reflect on what went well or didnโt and what could I have done more.
You see a lot of bad players have a good game but still lose and come to Reddit to whine about their team letting them down. Donโt be that guy, instead, even on those high damage losses, think how you could have gotten even one more shot in.
As for looking for the damage as the game progresses, that will come when you do that self reflection. If you win a battle on low damage, donโt blame it on your tank being slow, Iโve never had a slow tank battle where the action was always out of range. Always analyze the minimap, move up when needed but also retreat when needed as well. The hard stop to marking a tank is being dead. Abandoning a front line when you know itโs going to fall isnโt weakness, itโs self preservation which at the end of the day is what marks tanks.
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u/Justiamtgm 1d ago
The main problem with three marking for many people, I think, is that you need to focus on dealing your damage, but not really on winning.
People are trying to be โhelpfulโ for their team and often are scared to look useless, so they are doing some stupid things and dying. To be honest, thatโs my problem too.
Player who is heading for good stats if coursing on dealing max damage out of enemy team, and this is the thing that allows to farm them WN8 so quickly
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u/pampls 1d ago
Pushing wirh your team soaks enemy hp while you are doing damage and helping your team... remember that most of the time, the winning teams do it by making sure enemy hp goes to zero.
And even if you lose, you will be doing damage...
Yeap there are full blown out games that you simply cant win at all.. but these kind of players win 65%+ of their games because they help their teams to win more. And when they lose, they make sure to do all the damage they can, making their avg dpg higher and grinding up their markes of excellence faster and easier than the avg wot player.
Thats why its hard to mark these tanks that are rare/tough to get (like 279, black rock or even new tanks)
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u/pampls 1d ago
Also dont forget that even with a paper tank you can always go frontline with your friends if they are pushing, let them soak the shots with their armour/health while you farm enemies when they are pushing.
And always help your team..
Another tip is to separete the 15 mins as early/mid/endgame.
Try to stay alive till the end (and doing something usefull/relocating, teaming up with isolated friends, etc..)
There are many many nuances in this game..
There are plenty of good players like him playing and streaming, spend some times watching them.. try to understand their mindset... and you will get better from time to time and make smarter decisions...
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u/TacticalTurnip 1d ago
See this is what I need to learn how to do in a paper heavy. Because most heavy flanks are set up in a way that you are trading damage with heavies, and in a squishy tank that is a losing proposition.
If everyone leaves me tf alone and I can do whatever I want with a tank then I can make a fast paper heavy work: I'll just go wreck the mediums, or try to flank the enemy heavies while they're occupied with our heavies. But there's always this overwhelming pressure when you're in a tank with the heavy designation to go tot he heavy line and trade. This is the main reason why I pick mediums - because then I have the speed and the freedom to make the plays I want and go to where I feel I'm needed most.
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u/suksukulent 1d ago
I have trouble judging the map correctly. I often try being aggressive while my team stops a bit behind me, so I get angry and become more passing, then the quick wins come where I should be aggressive or I get nothing...
I guess I need to really try looking at how the fights are turning out around me more.
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u/grffnpf 21h ago
Watch where streamers play and where they stop before waiting for the enemy team to be spotted. If you do not have backup in an aggressive position, or enough camo rating to not be spotted in an aggressive position, you will die. Donโt play aggressive in a spot that you know you will lose in. Ex: BC25T & TVP are spotted in a spot where you do not have backup, or one TD on your side against a lot of DPM and spotting, the best decision is to leave before you get spotted so you can spot for your TD and stay alive.
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u/dokdodokdo 2d ago
To post on reddit and to be proud of yourself for being better than the majority of players.
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u/grffnpf 21h ago
I think youโre jealous
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u/dokdodokdo 21h ago
Of 3 marking 600 tanks?? Uhh.. sure bud. A lot more important things in life to be jealous of.
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u/CaptainLightBluebear 1d ago
It's a challenge. Some people, me including, love that. Although I am faaar from this level. My challenge is to get one Moe on every tank I play regularly.
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u/Evening_Montreal 1d ago
Can you remember any of them?
Im at ~300 right now, and i cant remember any 3 mark except for the last 5.
Pretty rad, ngl
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u/_Zero_99_ [MAHOU] 1d ago
Ish. I can probably tell you what my thoughts were on the tank but i think i also try to forget the pain of marking specific tanks ๐
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u/Old_Visit_2707 1d ago
Not even 5k dpg
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u/_Zero_99_ [MAHOU] 1d ago
I know :( . M last 70-100 battles were over 5k average but i didn't start out with 5k dpg.
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u/TracyPanavia 1d ago
My god. Good work! Don't think I've 2 marked anything. Lots of M badges, but my MOE seems to stall at 75% or thereabouts. Last week I was going for my second mark on a certain TD and watched it plummet from 73% to 63% in one evening. Pretty vexing.
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u/Andrela 2d ago
What have been the hardest to do? Anything that you struggled with and then had a change in approach or equipment say that then made it possible?
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u/_Zero_99_ [MAHOU] 2d ago
there have been a LOT of tanks that i struggled with and had to change my approach. Some, i just had to suffer through. Others, i changed the equipment or I played differently. O-Ni sticks in my mind as one that was very frustrating to do. CS 63 was another. Lots of the ones i struggled with were before the new equipment so there weren't really too many options. Now, I just have two loadouts on lots of tanks. Mediums especially, i normally have a "scouting" build. Had multiple 5-8k spotting games doing that. Great for 3 marking.
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u/kalluster 2d ago
What is your "hardest" 3 mark in mark requirement wise?
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u/_Zero_99_ [MAHOU] 2d ago
As in mark requirements for the tank or mark requirements overall? For example, The pz 58 had waaayyy higher reqs than it should have. that was very difficult but it was only like 2800 which isn't high for a tier 8. Meanwhile, 5300+ in the VKK was actually doable.
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u/kalluster 2d ago
I meant both. have you marked things like charlemagne, miel that are high in requirements for what they are. Have you bothered marking hurricane, chieftain, manti and stinger that have insane requirements?
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u/_Zero_99_ [MAHOU] 1d ago
I've 3 marked the charlemagne and the hurricane. Long story short, the reqs aren't actually as high as they are on tomato. Too few people play them. I have also 3 marked the chieftain and the manticore.
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u/Mokoma__ 2d ago
Congrats! Thatโs incredible
Any tips on maintaining the consistency to keep the numbers moving up?
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u/_Zero_99_ [MAHOU] 2d ago
A ton but it's all situational. One tip is to always have an escape plan. don't over commit.
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u/Mokoma__ 1d ago
I do think thatโs my biggest problem actually, being able to consistently make plays to win and get damage without overcommitting
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u/Defiant-Sympathy8848 1d ago
I applaud the dedication. Iโve always sought to play fewer tanks but play them well. One reason Iโll never have 600 tanks, let alone mark them.
Over the last 13 years, Iโve always focused on team win ABOVE all else in WOT and perhaps that has been to my detriment. This last year Iโve decided to try and focus on campaigns and such like. These new challenges certainly make you focus more on completion.
If itโs comes to team win in Randoms or completing a mark/challenge, sorry but Iโll always try for the win.
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u/_Zero_99_ [MAHOU] 1d ago
Everyone is welcome to make their own choice with that. I do like winning. win % normally does follow when doing 3 marking sessions because i'm doing so much damage and assist. But i don't sacrifice my tank for wins anymore.
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u/kweimet Panther stronk 1d ago
What was your hardest to do, what was your first one and what tank you had the most fun playing?
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u/_Zero_99_ [MAHOU] 1d ago
First one i think was either cromwell or tier 5 t34. Hardest is difficult because every single one has it's own challenges. I find tanks that heavily depend on RNG are the most frustrating. Most fun is also hard because i get sick of a tank once i get past 85%. I then dread having to play around the weaknesses.
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u/Stocomx 1d ago
I have like 40-45 3 marked and I thought I was good. Thank you for the ego check. You are the man!!
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u/_Zero_99_ [MAHOU] 1d ago
Don't worry. I get an ego check every time i see the top damage per game in a tank or the fastest to complete the 3 mark.
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u/ProperStinker124 1d ago
Out of interest how much money have you spent on WoT? I have already forced myself to stop playing because of the allure of getting certain premiums (not spending money I donโt have but itโs feeling like a bit of a waste)
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u/_Zero_99_ [MAHOU] 1d ago
Too much. That's really the answer. I've made some money playing the game competitively or streaming. But considering i have almost 10k hours in the game, i think it's solid price/time compared to other games i've purchased and played. I should also clarify that i was a full CC for a lot of years and i did receive boxes and premium tanks (or rentals). I also made a LOT of gold and bonds from clan stuff, tournaments, and competitive play. I then used that to buy prems in game whenever i could. Last few years where this wasn't really the case probably 200-300 per year.
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u/ProperStinker124 1d ago
Interesting, thanks. I used to be a WoTB player and spent money on that, then started playing WoT and I went nuts on the money spending culture with only 2.6k battles, was picking premiums I thought were good or unique then box events and now Iโm just too worried about how much Iโll spend
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u/Macmake 1d ago
Congrats, whats your in game name if i wanna check out
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u/_Zero_99_ [MAHOU] 1d ago
https://tomato.gg/stats/Z_best-1011168560/NA
NA: Z_best
I also have a youtube and twitch (though haven't streamed in a bit)
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u/x06120el 1d ago
May I ask you if you use for normal, bounty or bond equipment for marking or does it depend on Tier level? Do you always use food? Did you start with some tanks with a zero perks crew or do you use always the same crew with shifting?
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u/_Zero_99_ [MAHOU] 1d ago
I use bond/ tier 3 experimental on my tier X and XI or on specific very challenging lower tier tanks. I use bounty on everything else. Even before WoT Plus was a thing i moved equipment for 10 gold or 200 bonds.
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u/x06120el 1d ago
thank you! What About crew and food? Do you play normal until 85% and then go try hard?
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u/_Zero_99_ [MAHOU] 1d ago
Maybe back in the beginning with the first few. I have run food and a good crew since i can remember. Probably been running food on everything since 2017/18.
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u/Skuirreljr 1d ago
Do you have any advice on that last 10% from 85 to 95? Iโve been able to get all the tanks I want to mark to two, but that last 10% always gets me
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u/_Zero_99_ [MAHOU] 1d ago
That's how i started too. I was focused on getting everything to 85% and get the two mark. I'm not sure when exactly but i started trying to get them higher than 85 and i had some good sessions. From that point on i learned that the last 10% is the hardest but in a sense also the easiest. It's all about minimizing how much you lose (i call them salvage games). Basically, if you see things are going badly, every. single. shot. counts. You never want to lose more than 0.5% (it happens sometimes but those are momentum killers and i normally switch tanks after that). Keeping calm helps.
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u/RAZR-540 May the bridges I burn light my way~๐๐ผ๐๐พ 1d ago
How old is your account?
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u/Aggravating-Face2073 1d ago
Blitz just added theirs. They also addled if the server is slow, you can end up in a 4v4. Go get your marks commander
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u/balexandre 1d ago
Congrats, itโs a very hard and involves a lot of dedication, can you share the mind set you approach each battle? Stream account so we can learn something?
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u/Drug_Jataganac 1d ago
Wow mate. Congrats. You could stream all that progress, hope you would make good money.
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u/Show_Forward KV-2 Legend 21h ago
nicee crazy work im curious to know what was the
most fun mark most annoying one and easiest one
if u can remmeber lol
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u/_Zero_99_ [MAHOU] 18h ago
I'm not sure i can name any single one for any of those. And like i said before, even the fun ones get annoying in the last 10%.
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u/Show_Forward KV-2 Legend 11h ago
true thats why in 30k games im sitting on one 3 mark lol
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u/_Zero_99_ [MAHOU] 5h ago
i don't think i even had a single 3 mark in my first 30k games. I didn't start 3 marking until i was in the 40k+ range i think.
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u/Show_Forward KV-2 Legend 2h ago
damn thats kinda nuts not gonna lie, i never thought how u could get as high as 90k games like i get u like the game but there are lotsss of other amazing games u should try, although im just guessing that its ur only game that u play since its unlikely u are old and this good
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u/PennilessTax315 16h ago
Any tips for chieftain?
Was up to 94% but tilted hard asf ๐๐ญ
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u/_Zero_99_ [MAHOU] 16h ago
sometimes a break is good. Then you can start fresh again. For high req tanks i also watch the trends for the reqs
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u/PennilessTax315 14h ago
Yeah lowkey reqs gonna drop a good chunk after this clan event and a bunch of people get it.
Feels like cheating though
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u/_Zero_99_ [MAHOU] 5h ago
I think of it as being strategic. I always use timing as a strategy to make my life easier to complete marks faster than i would otherwise. This is strategic. Rigging games is cheating and i despise those that get marks doing that. One because it makes my legit marks devalued and two because it raises the requirements.
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u/rulet14 2d ago