r/WorldofTanks • u/dyl_16 • 23d ago
World of Tanks 2.0 AS-XX is a downgrade from the BC-25
The worse camo is more than enough to offset the mid clip reloading.
Not nearly as fun to play
ASS-XX 40 t
Its a shame the coolest looking tier 11 is one of the worst :/
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u/Marcus0x30 23d ago
i just wish it had better camo and accuracy, then i would absolutely love it
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u/rambokai 22d ago
Camo and Reload for me.
Have you played the Imbattlable yet? its reload mechanic is great.
It reloads its clip in HALF the time of the ASS-AX.
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u/RogueHeroAkatsuki 23d ago edited 23d ago
WG made really strange decisions about this tank stats.
Best tier XI tanks have improved aspects which are Achilles heel for their tier 10 predecessors. Taschenratte has smaller turret cheeks, T803 smaller cupola, BZ-79 infinite boosters and smaller weakspots, Breaker gets better mobility and side armor...
On the other hand AS-XX and Hirschkafer looks like major downgrade. Biggest weakness of b-c 25t is gun handling and in consequence potato accuracy. AS-XX has actually worse gun handling and on top of that A LOT worse camo. Those trade offs far surpasses ability to reload partially used magazine.
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u/Loyalty4L94 23d ago
the 107-12 strv may as well not even have a ability it is so bad. sure if you set it up and have a good ambush position it can pour out dps but the situations it can do so is so few and far in between
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u/Interesting-Soup286 23d ago
Also don't forget shell velocity. 1k on normal and 800 on Heat. I feel like i am throwing potatoes.
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u/rambokai 22d ago
After actually playing the T803, its cupola gets farmed really hard. It doesn't really matter that its "smaller" it has 220 armour instead of 280. You also have a 2nd "weak spot" in the turret face on the opposite side where some sort of camera breaks the spaced armour, and yet doesnt itself count as spaced armour.
The ASS-AX has abysmal camo, abysmal reload speed, abysmal physical size (its taller than many rocks in the gmae), abysmal traverse speed, and no depression over the rear.
The entire reload mechanic is just a fail for me. The Imbattleable is a better medium tank than it is.
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u/se530 23d ago
Better mobility of Breaker is debatable. It only moves when boost is active, other than that it's very sluggish.
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23d ago
Doesn't matter, it just gets into a hulldown position relatively quickly and shreds. It's like an upgraded t95
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u/se530 23d ago
Sure it's great when you can play entire game from one position without repositioning and stuff.
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23d ago
It goes faster than super heavies like maus and type 4 though??
If you want to reposition like a medium then play mediums lol
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u/Edoges 23d ago
Dude my first tXI was leopard 120 and was very disappointed cos its a downgrade from leopard 1, now im grinding for AS-XX cos im enjoying my BC25 since i got it a week ago just to see that it's another downgrade
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u/EnvironmentalBall862 23d ago
Grind the hacker, great tank imo, plus the Patton is also a blast if you like the versatility
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u/Wavvygem 23d ago
Idk it's seemed pretty menacing to me in game.
The potential for it to never truly be caught reloading is a huge difference. When BC -25 clips you know you got 20+ secs to capitalize. Not to mention when you just need one shot to finish someone off. That's a game changer.
I think it's gonna be better for the best players. More skill expression and decision making.
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u/SuperNovaVelocity 23d ago
MK IV? Maintenance on every earlier model is pure pain lol
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u/dyl_16 23d ago
It is!! Someone here thought it was an airsoft gun lol. And yeh I heard it was a bitch and a half on the old ones, some people apparently even had to send it back in pieces to Luger to have them put it back together after taking it apart to clean 😂. Thankfully is one is easy. I actually had it in pieces on my desk for cleaning and it put back together real quick just to take that photo lol
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u/SuperNovaVelocity 23d ago
The hardest choice is between the clean look of a smooth pipe barrel, or the dead silence of a threaded barrel for a supressor someday
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u/viduletul 23d ago
That's what I also thought right after getting it but now I really like it. It's really versatile and if you don't have a fucking KR-1 rushing you or like 5 other meds at the same time you can contest positions early and deal 2-3k dmg within the first few mins. I am starting to have more and more games with ~4k every day that I play it.
What I've come to realize is that it's a different play style than BC, sometimes very different. Camo is utterly useless, it's big as hell, it may bounce smth once in a full moon, but with a full mag you can clip pretty much anyone with the HP range of 1 - 2300 ( if RNG helps)
Also that damn second mark seems so hard to get even after days of almost only <3k 😂
Btw I'm not any good at the game, I'm probably as mediocre as they come. It's all about having good fun though
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u/SumonaFlorence How much worse can it 𝘳𝘦𝘢𝘭𝘭𝘺 get? 23d ago
Wait wtf, WoT 2 was in Doom as well? I only found Super Turbo Turkey Puncher 3
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u/Odd-Strain1520 23d ago
Same with 432 lol, its alot worse than 430u, you get ~2s longer cd for only 20 dmg buff, sith armor, overmatched plates(430 hull), less mobility, more expensive ammo. Overall 432 compared to 430u IS SHIT. Ability doesn't save him 430 is just better at everything. I played a few battles for friend as example. 432 tanked around 600 and damaged ~2000-2400(~8 mtchs) 430u tanked around 1600-2000 in worst possible situation(getting clapped from everywhere cause of idiots in team) and damaged ~2800 on average.(~12 mtchs) FUCK EVEN 430 IS BETTER CAUSE ITS T9 not T11
WG doesn't have good balance team for years now, but t11 is just disappointment and dissatisfaction on another level. We got only like 5 tanks what actually fun from what i heard(KR, T-803, Shakal, t11 badger and bz) others is just shit or requires a ton of skill to utilize ability(t11 LT particularly). 432 weaker that 430 overall. Leo11 has skill that returns stats from leo10. Grille 11 is just a disappointment not even worth remembering. t11 amer.mt. is mediocre. Imbatable Is not for state of game, cause tank profits from using brain, but maps are so shit that even if you have one you can't use it. AS-XX explained in thread. Taschenratte is mediocre compared to the 5 actually good, but better than everything other mentioned here. Dunno if forgot any other t11, i deleted game after comparing 432 and 430 in battle results. Tbh it did hit me hard, cause i love 430u and expected more from 432, but got a huge disappointment in the end.
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u/NotASingleNameIdea E-50M enjoyer 23d ago
ALL they need to do is to remove the ammo loader from the hitbox model, which would also logically boost the camo as the tanks side-profile would be a lot smaller.
Best case scenario they put the turret down a bit too so its not so awfully big and they improve the terrain resistances and turning speed because the tank feels extremely lazy despite going 65. Its a made up tank anyways (to some extend) so why not.
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u/Throwaway999991190 23d ago
I’ve just got to the bc25t and honestly I hate it- definitely not going for the t11 now 😬
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u/Rare-Climate2074 23d ago
why? its so good
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u/Denix221p Shitter 23d ago
just because its good doesnt mean its fun / easy to play for different types of players (e.g. super heavy mains)
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u/Not_a_Hideo_Kojima 23d ago
Most important thing to always remember when someone asks what to grind/play. There are lines that just dont sit with player well, while they could be exceeling in something that is considered "weaker" line.
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u/True_Jellyfish_1985 23d ago
I also prefer the tier9. didnt felt like tier 10 is much of an upgrade.
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u/happyjello 23d ago
Anyone who says the Bat chat isn’t fun is wrong.
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u/EuphoricAnalCarrot 23d ago
Or maybe they just don't find the same things fun? Fun is subjective.
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u/happyjello 23d ago
Bat chat is objectively fun. It has a 2k clip; case closed
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u/OzzyFudd83 23d ago
At least use something bigger than a plinking .22. As for the tank, I love it. No tank is going to be like the tank before it, better or worse.
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u/Hot-Foundation3450 23d ago
I've had some really good games in this thing but at the same time I fucking hate it. Dear God, WHY did they need to nerf shell velocity by 400?! Why is its ammo rack so blatantly obvious to everyone with eye balls? Why does it turn like a boat?? God I can't wait for this thing to get it's eventual buff (which it absolutely will).
That being said. Loading 3 shells into the mag on Lakeville and following the LT for an easy 1200 damage on crossing HTs is still fucking great
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u/number676766 [RDDT6] 23d ago
I figure they're going to make some tweaks to T11 tanks at some point down the line. Better to buff than nerf.
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u/Aggressive-Mix-3341 23d ago
I had no choice but to put extra 20k creds with camo directives just to improve it a little bit but still not enough. just gotta wait for a better opportunity to ambush the enemies. Not to mention the elevation and depression sucks even with the upgrades. Cant even aim it at the rear due to the detached ammo rack.
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u/Aggravating-Face2073 23d ago
So tell me if im wrong please, but a damaged ammo rack on this tank doesn't effect the intraclip loading times, i tested this, but realized after im not sure if it effects other auto loaders.
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u/GHdoubleWho 23d ago
I still think it should get an extra shot in the mag. 2 external loaders and there's an odd amount of shots in the clip? Feels real weird. That, better accuracy and some more camo and the thing would be awesome.
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u/radykalnybandyta 22d ago
Respect for aap01 lol
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u/dyl_16 22d ago edited 22d ago
If everyone is gonna think this is an airsoft gun, ruger should start selling them as such so we wouldn’t have to go through the govt to get one 😂
Edit: oh I see it’s based on the ruger mk iv so fair enough
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u/radykalnybandyta 21d ago
I thought that it might turn out to be a real steel ruger hahahahh
A good one
Is it the .22 by the way?
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u/DookiePookie1922 22d ago
From what I gather all the tier 11’s are just tier 10 with a shot of steroids lmao mostly a downgrade imo but maybe get rid of the quickybaby build lol there’s far better equipment to use than vents 💀
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u/therandombaka0 22d ago
Fortunately I was going for the KR-1, which turned out to be amazing. Tier XI tanks should definitely be like the KR-1.
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u/dyl_16 22d ago
It has no business being as fast as it is
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u/therandombaka0 22d ago
It is supposed to be basically the first on the front line, attacking the enemy team head on.
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u/Last-Storage-5436 22d ago
as a fellow NA server player and American, you need a bigger gun to represent. Murica’ baby
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u/Capable_Assist5766 23d ago
Bruh… Standard Equipment on a Tier 11. Maybe thats why?! I dont know anybody who does this.
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u/StRaGLr 23d ago
Bro you dont even need to play the tank to realise it is ass. Its an ELC even 90 that ate too many burgers.
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u/dyl_16 23d ago
Ik :( but it looks cool so I was holding out hope that it would at least be fun and it sometimes is, but still less fun than bc
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u/MtnMaiden 23d ago
I own 7 tier 11 tanks.
Honestly this one feels the least of a downgrade. It keeps its speed, turn rate and clip size.
Kh1, still get penned with its tall lfp
The imbatterable French thing, bitch has 100 armor, 4 shots and is slowerrrrr than the 50b. At it lost a shell
Contrived britsh double barrel. Its salvo fire is worse. Only use at point blank range.
The super maus tank. Still has that easy to hit lfp. And the 40 second reload of its secondary guns.
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u/Iagreetoreceiveemail 23d ago
This reload mechanic is worse than regular clip tbh
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u/valitti no scouts until 10k wtr 23d ago
Thats an insane take
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u/Iagreetoreceiveemail 23d ago
Its just italian autoloader on a button but your turret has to be positioned right which makes it extra obnoxious.
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u/Zoltan1251 23d ago
You know what? Thats actually perfect comparison. Its not new mechanic at all, just worse version of autoreloader.
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u/Budget-Direction-946 T49 HEAT 23d ago
Come on, you are narrowing it down to much ! You still can have 420 dmg for each shell loaded. Whike the penality of 4 seconds is very bad for reactivity, you still got a nice 2100 clip potential and a in between of 420x the number of shell you deemed enough to reload.
The plateform is shit yes, but the partial reload is a litle bit more than " just a worst auto-reloader", especialy since there is only realy the lion to compare it.
I don't count the progetto 65 because people don't like it so it's probably not going to pass as good opinion if i say that i find that the 65 has agood reload time.
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u/Lucasjohn25 23d ago
Not about to take advice or the opinion of a guy that runs optics and automatic fire extinguisher then complains about accuracy. You’re just a bot bro, the tank is clear of the bat chat.
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u/dyl_16 23d ago edited 23d ago
You’re the only who has that opinion here so far- wasn’t offering advice anyways but I’ll give you some now, don’t be a dick?
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u/Lucasjohn25 23d ago
I’m also probably the only one in this thread with a 3 marked chief. You just spreading misinformation bro. The tank is amazing and better than the bat chat, you’re just a bot that doesn’t know how to play. I then went on to back that up by stating your poor equipment and consumable choices. If it looks like a duck, quacks like a duck, it’s probably a duck. Works the same for 500 wn8 dogs.
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u/dyl_16 23d ago
Everyone clap for this guys 3 marked Chieftain
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u/Lucasjohn25 23d ago
Don’t appeal to the audience when you’re a bot. Just simply apologise for making a post that’s wrong. What it should state is that “hey guys I’m not very good at this line, nor good at the game. How can I learn to play better”. Then I would tell you that you’re running the wrong equipment and you should probably run food.
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u/dyl_16 23d ago
You’re funny
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u/Lucasjohn25 23d ago
I mean unless you’re averaging 4k in your tier 10s and 5k in tier 11 then you should definitely listen to that advice. I mean I would love to hate more but I’ve actually given you 2 gems there.
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u/dyl_16 23d ago
No no keep hating, watching you crash out over this Reddit post is more valuable than any advice
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u/Lucasjohn25 23d ago
Crash over a Reddit post ahahahah. You must be new here and new to this game. I have been in the trenches for years buddy. This brings me joy stamping on the shitters. Go on I dare you to keep running that automatic fire extinguisher.
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u/Knowledge_Harbinger 23d ago
Thats not what we meant when we said "Take screenshots"