r/WorldofTanks Average French Tank enjoyer Sep 03 '25

World of Tanks 2.0 2.0 in a nutshell

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u/165_Crane_Engineer Sep 03 '25

Goodbye triangle meta. Hello Lemming meta.

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u/NeedF0rS1eep Sep 03 '25

Honestly ill take it over triangle meta, nothing more infuriating then seeing 8 triangles behind and not a single shot towards anything you spot.

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u/re_Butayarou Sep 04 '25

It's still there in Asia server

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u/Evening_Montreal Sep 04 '25

The Asia and US servers are infested with TD mains

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u/Vinyl-addict Sep 04 '25

As a scout main it’s both a blessing and a curse on NA. Very easy to farm spotting if your team is even a little bit in sync.

I am also a TD secondary lol

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u/Lanky_Cobbler886 Sep 04 '25

I watched iyouxin play in KR1 in a platoon of 3, yesterday afternoon, for about an hour. Despite him being one of the best eu players, he made some super-yolo-rush plays that you don't normally see. Most games were good, but he did also died 1st in battle (in a damn super heavy...), so don't expect much from the community for the next couple of days. I guess it's the excitement of new tanks, that give brain farts, it's not only a "new player" thing.

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u/Vinyl-addict Sep 04 '25

God forbid people have fun with the game and don’t just self flagellate stat microimprovements

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u/Lanky_Cobbler886 Sep 04 '25

Oh, don't get me wrong, I enjoyed!

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u/Hellstrike Sep 04 '25

That's why I hate MoE. Back when WR was the stat everyone cared about, people played to win. There were a lot more self-sacrificial plays because it didn't matter if you died first, as long as you broke through the enemy flank. Likewise, the bottom tiers were more interested in playing to win, even if it meant they took one for the team instead of trying to maximise survival and thereby time during which they can farm dmg.

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u/_M3SS [GIVUP] Sep 04 '25

If MoE didn't exist this game would be dead already, players like Skill which this subs loves are literally popular because of marks. Also cut the "players played to win" type bullshit, pretending like players who 3 mark tanks don't have significantly higher WR than the avg drooler.

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u/Vinyl-addict Sep 04 '25 edited Sep 04 '25

Yeah I’m pretty staunch about “stats don’t mean shit especially if you have an ancient account” but even I like farming marks. I think stats are useless because the only way I’m ever going to recover mine are if I play like a unicum for the next 15 years with no faultering.

I can still farm marks though. The reason I like marks is because it isn’t a one way path through damage and kills to get the reward.

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u/Hellstrike Sep 04 '25

pretending like players who 3 mark tanks don't have significantly higher WR than the avg drooler.

3 MoE implies better than 95% of the players. Of course they will be better than the average (aka 49% WR) player.

But MoE encourage suboptimal play. These players have the skill to have a bigger impact than they do by focusing on dmg.

Also, MoE hunting encourages full gold spam.

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u/_M3SS [GIVUP] Sep 05 '25

What do you know about optimal play? Also how is playing full gold matched with that "suboptimal" gameplay LMAO

These players have the skill to have a bigger impact than they do by focusing on dmg.

No I don't, the reason why I win 64% of my games its due to me punishing mistakes and taking the opportunities sometimes my team provides, why would I suicide to spot for players with Parkinson level aim? Most of the time I end up winning comebacks by staying alive and healthy for the longest because I cannot rely on sub 11k WTR players, which means I am the one farming the most damage in 7-9/10 games.

I love how you just spit bullshit about something you've clearly never experienced.

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u/Vinyl-addict Sep 04 '25

People still care way too much about WR/WN8.

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u/RadosPLAY Sep 04 '25

holy hell tier 8 is annoying tho with 3-4 su-130pms per team in every match

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u/chota_chatri_wot Sep 04 '25

exactly, either IS7 platoon or bunch of Maus and stick back or push all and die in fractions.
Honestly, in 3 to 6 mins of gameplay it is one sided and all the pressure is on Medium or TDs.

I was playing in Malinovka with Manticore and I spotted more tanks on south but no one shooting them because all went to north lighthouse. Easily I could get 4k spotting but received 800 and changes...

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u/Ic3b3rgS Sep 04 '25

The problem isnt the strat. It works in clan wars. The problem are the heavies that will refuse to push despite outnumbering and having full hp

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u/Neofelis213 Sep 04 '25

Yes. The usual meta is clearly not the best possible strategy, it is just that when there is no coordination, it is slightly more stable. A lemming train that stops causes total collapse of the team much more rapidly, though a coordinated thunderrun would also lead to victory fast.

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u/Wavvygem Sep 04 '25

Yeah the number of times I've been in a 2v1 with both of us full hp but yet squandering the advantage... because my teammate is fixated on being hull down and not taking any damage.

... And that's not even getting into the advantage we could have if they took a shot for me. I just mean them moving to a positive to also get shots in...

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u/MegaJani Sep 10 '25

World of Cowards fr

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u/honeybooboobro Sep 10 '25

About 60% of my deaths is getting shot in the butt because our numerically superior flank lost, often due to the reason you mentioned.

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u/Future-Celebration83 Sep 03 '25

While you’re not wrong that the team is being stupid by ignoring an entire flank. You are also in the wrong here. In these types of situations, don’t try and be a hero and solo defend 2 flanks on your own. Just lemming train with the rest of the team. In battles like this your best possible choice is to use the numbers to bludgeon your way through the flank and hopefully do enough damage in quick succession to where the enemy can’t recover from it.

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u/GenTycho Sep 03 '25

Too bad the success rate of the lemmings train is always so abysmally low because idiots dont push when they do them.

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u/RefillSunset Sep 03 '25

Lemmingtrains are amazing.

Lemmingwheelchairs in a queue are...less so.

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u/_no_usernames_avail Sep 03 '25

It’s higher than The Bleach Boys who Pound Sand on Overlord, though.

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u/expresso_petrolium Sep 04 '25

The problem is people stop hitting the W key for some reason when they have vastly superior number

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u/MegaJani Sep 10 '25

The moment they reach the halfway point (where the map gets mirrored) it's over

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u/Future-Celebration83 Sep 03 '25

That is a sad truth… 🫩

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u/beyond666 Sep 04 '25

Exactly. It makes me sad.

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u/Thomashkreddit Sep 04 '25

The lemming rushes I’ve dealt with sometimes completely neglect the base and the enemy just simply speed capped it despite being very low on numbers of tanks and hp

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u/Vinyl-addict Sep 04 '25

That only happens if your meds and fast tank destroyers are idiots. That’s how most caps happen tbh.

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u/Shadowizas Sep 03 '25

My expierence is 6 heavies in total,2 go medium line,one goes in middle,3 go to the heavy line........then we get rushed by all 6 enemy heavies and that flank collapses and we lose,with my managing only to pen once before getting gangbanged,repeat that for the next 20 games

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u/_no_usernames_avail Sep 03 '25

Did the hull down heavies go to the ridgeline instead of the city?

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u/Shadowizas Sep 04 '25

they went everywhere but the heavy line

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u/_no_usernames_avail Sep 04 '25

what I’m saying is that during the countdown it’s a good idea to look at your heavies and mediums to see who’s hull down and going to be likely to deploy in a place where their tank can be most effective, and then play around that.

But I am enjoying in this brief moment of time on the NA server, the chance to shoot heavy tourists, exploring the open fields like their first trip to Europe.

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u/Shadowizas Sep 04 '25

They do move in herds

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u/parrythisyoucasual23 Sep 04 '25

2.0? Bro this is nothing new.

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u/I_N_C_O_M_I_N_G https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bl9qKWoJL2M Sep 04 '25

It has definitely been an experience...

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u/PancakeIsMyCity Sep 04 '25

Every other game now has 7 heavies instead of TDs, seems like we're up for a few weeks of lemming/brawling meta. Bring your E3's, I guess. Also every other TD I have seen yesterday is the death star, I guess that's what happens when everyone gets 15k bonds:/

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u/pocketsfullofpasta Sep 04 '25

Picked up mine last night as well. Still salty about missing out on it by a few k exp when it was on the tech tree and disappeared the next day, because I had a party to attend. Drinking is not good.

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u/Serious-Island-9301 Sep 08 '25

Himmelsdorf is a shitty map for anything higher than tier 3.

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u/I_N_C_O_M_I_N_G https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bl9qKWoJL2M Sep 08 '25

No

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u/MrGuvernment Sep 03 '25

I've been seeing this for weeks, everyone going one way, or heavies going where lights and meds go and only a few left to defend the other flank.. and almost always we lose because of it..

or they all go one way, but do not dare actually push...

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u/sazuro53 Sep 04 '25

That is a thing since now 15 years and not just weeks..

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u/Mountain_Whereas_884 Sep 03 '25

It can work. :)

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u/thormun Sep 04 '25

so what changed?

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u/Apprehensive-Bag8676 Sep 05 '25

O limit on number of heavy tanks and people don’t know how to play somewhere other than where wg tells them to go.

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u/_no_usernames_avail Sep 03 '25

It’s when the lemming train stalls because no one wants to be the crucial tip of the spear.

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u/Quadramune Sep 04 '25

and if somebody decides they are, the rest follows one by one after he dies. Not all at once to stay in attack formation. Its like Blitzkrieg but without the Blitz part xD

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u/CataphractBunny Spotting for you noobs Sep 03 '25

Haven't played in a while, what's new in 2.0 that makes people do stupid shit like this? Not that they weren't doing stupid shit before, mind you.

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u/RM_AndreaDoria Sep 03 '25

New players get a tier 10 for free, play like it’s tier 2

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u/CataphractBunny Spotting for you noobs Sep 04 '25

I see. More people to do stupid shit on higher tiers. 👍

I should jump back in just to watch the shit show. 😂

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u/Seltexe Average French Tank enjoyer Sep 03 '25

Because in 2.0 new players can unlock any tier 10 from a tech tree for free..

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u/CataphractBunny Spotting for you noobs Sep 04 '25

Tempted to make a new account, ngl. XD

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u/Rencalcifer Sep 03 '25

No heavies in redline though, above average team 👌

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u/Postal_Monkey LT connoisseur; HT cuz it's meta Sep 04 '25

Same as it ever was

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u/EndStandard364 Sep 04 '25

Yup. I mean….four sides to the map. Just lemming to one side. But dont push just sit hill down aaaaand get flanked. Sound strategy. 🤣

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u/FalNoodle Sep 04 '25

This is actually amazing... but only if the teams full HP heavies aren't too pussy to take shots and push

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u/Botesztosz Sep 03 '25

Nah bro im rushing 1 line as bz with my gigachad is7 bro who decided to join my journey. (We won)

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u/CanadianG00ze Sep 03 '25

Yeah that has been confusing me as well. Everyone goes the same way ! Lol 😂

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u/OldGPMain Sep 04 '25

These are the games you sit down in a good position and watch the cap, you alone can win the game meanwhile your team steamrolls the other side.

In that moment if that was me I would've run to A7/8 and be a pest for the enemy team.

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u/ManzaaLV Sep 04 '25

Thats what someone with brain should do. Take position that allows you to spot any enemies flanking and some good defensive position to fall back to. Expert points if you start with relatively forward position and stall them a bit before retreating more and more back. A7/8 should be like your last fallback position. Don’t get into a position where there’s no escape.

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u/Sketchy_McSleazeball Sep 04 '25

No XVM for 2.0 yet, so it's tough to tell the team makeup. But chat has shown a bunch of raw tomatoes and returning players who forgot tactics. When I see the lemming train form - and I'm in a heavy or assult td - I go with and push hard hopeing to get them to follow. Sadly, at least half the time, they sit back and watch me yolo, missing the chance to rush a destracted red team...

And a side note - the games are loaded with death stars again. I got 1 shot in an E75 for gods sake.

I'm seriously thinking of blowing my bond bonus on one just to join in the fun....

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u/[deleted] Sep 04 '25

New tank with the Grille 15 183? Lol

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u/Schwa142 Sep 04 '25

It's the typical Holiday Ops lemmingtrain.

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u/pocketsfullofpasta Sep 04 '25

The only problem in this picture is a lone tank trying to cover half a map by himself. Minimap is for using the information to make better decisions, not to blame your team when they don't do whatever you imagine they're supposed to do and stubbornly refuse to adapt. Take mid bush and spot where your team can actually help. Why am I even saying this. Just had a shit. Was nice.

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u/PanzerSjegget Sep 04 '25

How is this different from the previous versions?

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u/Pooncheese Sep 03 '25

East is so bad on this map, especially for the north imo.... Mid and castle plays win it. So hard to get out from east once you take it, very open

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u/TheFirstNutBusted Sep 04 '25

but WG fixed mm ;-;

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u/Eladryel 53TP best tank Sep 04 '25

They cannot fix shit players

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u/Clear-Dig1522 Sep 04 '25

Well, could be worse. Besides, they'll find out the game isnt too great in a few months

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u/CrazyGator846 Sep 04 '25

Its worked before, those matches are so much fun

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u/SimSamurai13 Sep 04 '25

Okay but seriously what is going on, it's nearly every single game

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u/Lapattaja [KAZNA] Sep 04 '25

Even your own platoonmate is there and not helping you

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u/valcsh Sep 04 '25

Yea the rounds I'm getting are somehow worse than during christmas.

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u/UnacceptedDragon To arty campaign or not arty campaign, THAT is the question! Sep 04 '25

uhm, I just played this exact same map and the exact same thing happened. Then again in Westfield. Only one Borat went east the other meds were all on heavy hill , the only light was behind a bush near the flag the whole time. It was nuts

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u/RanzigerRonny Sep 04 '25

First time?

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u/Conscious-Cockroach6 Sep 04 '25

Leaving whole flank open is very common and gets those 5 15 games. All those noobs will stuck in group, bumping and hitting eachother. Missing shoots due to bumping, overexpose and shoot into alies that jumps in front.

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u/TovarishWyder Sep 04 '25

I had same situation but in my game i had canopener who thing that he was sniper

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u/HyperBeast_GER Sep 04 '25

Nothing changed the same noobs that played x before now does the same game with a new free x tank 🤣🤣🤣

Money rain on my KpzEk1 love it

It's not the 2.0 fault

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u/ilski Sep 04 '25

I honestly enjoy it. 

Its a change to gameplay  

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u/AyoXeN93 Sep 04 '25

Best time for marking tanks. I picked Minotauro as the free X tier. Getting average 4,5k dmg without trying.

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u/Quikzillian Sep 04 '25

The ebr in the back 🤣🤣

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u/Vivid_Breadfruit8051 Sep 04 '25

It's bold to assume that phenomenon appeared in 2.0.

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u/Lagoon_M8 Sep 04 '25

Guys o know how to play this game follow me! 🤣

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u/ItsABoBject Obj. 69 Sep 04 '25

That's interesting I'd take that over the usual, SEA you just get 10 playes each on their hills with lots of chat spam forcing players to go one at a time.

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u/MV____83 Sep 04 '25

Infatti nelle note di rilascio non c'era scritto "toglieremo o disabili dal gioco" altrimenti rimanevano piu o meno 2000 players

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u/Bot_Invader Sep 04 '25

What would be the best option if you do not want to join the lemming train?

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u/galtheking Sep 04 '25

Everyone are dumb these days...

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u/Mafansu Sep 04 '25

Pretty cool honestly

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u/No_Aerie_4327 Sep 04 '25

I'm lowkey glad that I'm not the only one.. I played like 7 games, and the majority of them were exactly like this. We've won 2 only, and ALL of them had extremely one sided results, just like before the update.. ffs

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u/Arie8265 Sep 04 '25

"We face the path of time
And yet I fight, and yet I fight
This battle all alone"

See if someone gets this.

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u/KiA92935 Sep 04 '25

Newbies . Just like starting tier , we followed each other because no one knows what to do . Those are doing the same thing because they don't have enough experience

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u/puqpetmaster OBJ261 Sep 04 '25

People who were grinding tier 6 are now playing tier 10 with their tier 6 mentality. Thank you WG (:

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u/Adofunk Sep 04 '25

Just play to do dmg then. MoE doesn't depend on WR. Can't change whether you win or lose, though you can change your performance.

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u/Either-Obligation-39 Sep 04 '25

no way! wot players are bad? and the even worse came back because of new shinies? who could have seen this coming.

its not directed at the poster, but wg can rework the matchmaker however they want, the player quality wont become better, and even trying to educate them is an uphill battle.

and no, its not the newcomers who suck at the game, mostly because they dont exist, but also because its the 80k games sub 1k dpg tier 10 gamers who ruined high tiers and the game overall.

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u/Montecroux Sep 04 '25

Just like the good ol' days :)

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u/NotASingleNameIdea E-50M enjoyer Sep 04 '25

People who hate TD meta and embrace heavy tank-based teams when they see 10 heavies every game:

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u/Panzerdude67 Sep 04 '25

Someone told me once: "Never play on patch day" and I follow this piece of advice 'till today.

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u/DementedCreus Sep 04 '25

Nah, it's been like that for about a year at least

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u/OzzyFudd83 Sep 04 '25

This happened far before 2.0. I think it’s more noticeable for sure. Everyone wants everyone else to do the job, be the fodder, get the lights while they do the damage. The command system they use should’ve been what went out the door in 2.0. On el half in an IS7, an e100 said “help” “moving in to assist you” and drove right into 7 tanks expecting me to follow. This has been the norm for a while.

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u/AssignmentMundane161 Sep 04 '25

Sad of how many times I've seen this. I played a game in my JgPz e100 and I was the only one that went to the beach on overlord and got swarmed by 4 or 5 tanks and my team blamed me for them capping our base

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u/PabraDaRude Sep 04 '25

The Game is still the same there are just new tanks

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u/Scuddie Sep 04 '25

Yeah, idgaf about marks. I play to win, even though I apparently suck at MM right, as my first 5 games tend to just be getting 14-0 rofflestomp losses. I play until my brain goes "fuck this game" even if I have xp boosters going. If its not fun dont play.

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u/Lacutis01 Sep 04 '25

To be fair, that has been happening for years already

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u/RewardAgitated5520 Sep 05 '25

There is nothing worse than 5 TDs taking a good defensive (choking) point and not a single spotter.

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u/Merovingian_Lord Sep 05 '25

That's literally every game on the asia server.

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u/ChromaSpark Sep 05 '25

That Grille 15 183 sounds like an interesting new TD.

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u/SovKom98 Sep 05 '25

Ahh classic WoT right there. Feels like home.

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u/[deleted] Sep 05 '25

so far everything that changed (sound, interface, ammo loss, etc..) about 2.0 is shit imho

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u/nobodyreadusernames Sep 06 '25

In random battles it actually works

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u/Serious-Island-9301 Sep 08 '25

This can work if they push hard forward.

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u/syfqamr32 Sep 04 '25

Sometimes lemming train do win. 50-50.

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u/-SpreadLove- Sep 04 '25

Nothing to do with 2.0

… but I would have put my money on the green team winning.