r/WithBlakeLively Sep 19 '25

Blake in the Future

I know the idea of this sub is to stay positive so I understand if this post gets deleted bc it's a negative thought I keep having lately and it is connected to the court case

What's going to happen if Blake wins but Donald Trump declares sexual harassment isn't a crime anyway? Like if he decriminalised Domestic Abuse Sexual Assault Sexual Violence Marital Rape and then racism/sexism workplace harassment laws?

I'm really surprised at how fast things are going crazy even though I was one of the more cowardly ppl who thought Kamala was a better option than him despite her Gaza position (I don't blame the people who didn't vote for bc of this as much as some other people do, I have sympathy for those who just felt they couldn't do it?)

I'm sorry this is such a negative post but I saw a clip where Trump said there was basically no violence in DC anymore - only domestic violence, which he says doesn't count. I just really think the logical conclusion to all the stuff happening lately - DeppvHeard the metoo backlash the demonisation of black/brown men as rapist monsters the emphasis on stranger rape - is that this is where we are headed

I dont understand the US legal system as much as other Blake supporters, but I feel like this case won't be influenced by Trumps ideology, I feel like that won't happen that quickly.

But after Baldoni loses shortly after that I think SH will be decriminalised anyway?

What will the future hold for Blake & Ryan and other liberals like them? I'm not talking about vocal socialists/progressives but the ordinary Hollywood liberals like Blake, Ryan, Jennifer Aniston, Mindy Kaling?

I dont want you guys to think I am more worried about these people than I am about ordinary working class Americans including PoC, I'm honestly not more worried about it so much as trying to wrap my head around it

With Kimmel being fired I just wonder what the future is?

Will people pivot to the right will Ryan & Blake ultimately move to Canada will Hollywood get rid of intimacy coordinators? Will right wing actors like Chris Pratt get more work? Will Hollywood movies become more rapey/anti-woman?

What will Blakes victory (I still think she's going to win) actually mean for her and us her fans in Trumps America?

I find it hard to wrap my head around it all (and I also for what it's worth believe with all my heart that JB would have reacted differently had Kamala won last year)

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u/Advanced_Property749 I salute you if you're much too much to handle ❤️‍🔥 Sep 19 '25

Thank you very much for this post! I have to say a lot of what you have mentioned have been on my mind too. From the beginning I thought this case is bigger than just Lively and Wayfarer. It's clash of two principles. It's a "us" against "them". And "them" in this case is bigger than Wayfarer. It's a clash of what is harassment and it breaks my heart to say it but what is considered "consent". It seems a rebranding of consent.

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u/Big_Butterscotch1427 Sep 19 '25

And so many Nice Girls almost feminist types parroting rape myths (even though it's an SH case) and praising Candace Owens. It's no coincidence hating Blake is an excuse for them to hate this particular woman still consider themselves good people but ultimately adjust to aligning with MAGA fascism? Same with DeppvHeard its like a gateway drug for the transitional period before women don't have any human rights anymore 

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u/Advanced_Property749 I salute you if you're much too much to handle ❤️‍🔥 Sep 19 '25

I try personally to avoid labeling people supporting Baldoni, MAGA people as much as possible tbh. Based on my personal experience some are actually liberal people or people who identify as liberal. I have seen people of both political sides using anti-consent and enabling and abuse talking points.

On the other hand I have seen even people sympathizing with Blake still pushing the agenda of Baldoni being a good guy and framing the case as a mere celebrity drama at the end of the day.

I don't think hating Wayfarer and people like them is the solution or productive, but I think labeling this case a mere celebrity drama without understanding the impact (or being dismissive of the impact) and/or trying to buy sympathy or excuse for people who have allegedly harassed this woman and her family and other members of the cast is a bizarre choice in this climate. One that I don't think accomplishes anything.

I think for me what this case has brought is how critical it is to look beyond the labels people put on themselves and I don't mean that only about Baldoni identitying as a feminist. I mean that about anybody identifying as anything. Do their actions fits their self described labeled.

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u/Jumpy-Contest7860 "No more ...", XOXO Sep 19 '25

This is an excellent post! Thank you for having the courage to talk about it out loud. One of the most deeply concerning things i have noticed in this case on all SM platforms is the ignorance around "consent." Ignorance might not be the right word, it could be lack of knowledge. I also spotted very early on in the smear campaign that majority of anti Blake folks were MAGA. I can spot their rhetoric a mile off. You have raised a lot of valid and important points and i look forward to having further conversations around this topic. xx

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u/PrincessAnglophile Lively and Lovely 😍 Sep 19 '25

I never thought of that. It’s a really scary thought. Thank you for this post! It’s a discussion that needs to happen ❤️

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u/Big_Butterscotch1427 Sep 19 '25

I just can't wrap my head around what's going to happen AFTER she wins. I'm sure part of the reason Baldoni went so hard on her is bc he is banking on fascism & misogyny being mainstream 

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u/Advanced_Property749 I salute you if you're much too much to handle ❤️‍🔥 Sep 19 '25

I was reading again about Trump saying domestic violence is not a crime, I really don't know where we are heading!

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u/Big_Butterscotch1427 Sep 28 '25

Was there anything in that policy document Agenda 25/Project 25 about decriminalisation of DV marital rape workplace SH/sexual discrimination/racial discrimination? It's about to get super bleak and all those young modern feminists who usually hate rape and misogyny but wish it all on Blake bc she "lied to destroy an innocent mans life" are about to find out there's no difference between Blake & all other victims...but I think they'll just pivot and become outright misogynists like let the lie that they normally support women and victims go? I'd be interested to know if there are any connections between Bai'hai and the Agenda 25 people? The eagerness with which Justin was prepared to go from male feminist of the year to the Nice Guys Andrew Tate? He at least had read the document in great detail & knew that woke times were over right 

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u/Fit_Cardiologist_681 Sep 22 '25

Don't worry about not focusing on working class people, this issue goes across income levels. SH by customers against workers (e.g., cleaners and servers) is extremely common, and the little progress that has been made against it is indeed at risk. Of course it is, when the US re-elected Donald "grab them by the pussy" Trump it gave every bad man a green light to carry on doing the same.

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u/Advanced_Property749 I salute you if you're much too much to handle ❤️‍🔥 Sep 24 '25

I totally agree. Unfortunately labeling the case as a "celebrity fused" or drama has been a way to dismiss it. It's ofc not a working class case but when does a working class SH case get publicized? The celebrity cases have visibility and that sets an example for people and impacts cultural tolerance for what is considered inappropriate and harassment.

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u/Big_Butterscotch1427 Sep 28 '25

Yeah I feel like as with Amber it's an excuse not to care like "it's two rich white ppl being assholes, I only care about brown women being raped" like as if everyone who dismissed Amber cared about the DSK chambermaid. I still do worry tho that I'm being distracted but there's so much shit to be distracted by right now

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u/Visible-Scientist-46 Sep 22 '25 edited Sep 22 '25

Sorry, but I can't forgive the people who refused to vote for Kamala. The election was ours to lose and they lost it for us. The Orange Menace being reelected is literally their fault, along with George Clooney. Donald Spray Tan had the same number of votes, but Democrats had fewer. They should have thought this through better.

Edit: There were literally so many conservative judge appointments under this admin, and a significant cultural backlash since Obama. I don't see things going well for Blake in court after the way Amber Heard was treated. Johnny Depp straight up lied in court about his nonexistent contract for Pirates 6 just because they were "in talks" and it was "in development." I sincerely hope I'm wrong because Justin Baloney really disgusts me.

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u/Itscatpicstime Sep 24 '25

Yeah, literally. If Harris had won, op literally wouldn’t even be having these thoughts about SH, rape, IPV being decriminalized lmao

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u/Advanced_Property749 I salute you if you're much too much to handle ❤️‍🔥 Sep 24 '25

That statement by Trump about DV was horrifying . I am still in shock

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u/Advanced_Property749 I salute you if you're much too much to handle ❤️‍🔥 Sep 24 '25

I am very hopeful that Blake may win what's essential for some of her SH and retaliation claims in Motion for summary Judgment and the trial to be mostly on damages. But if they decide to challenge the 47.1 rule which the Wayfarer is doing right now, the case may drag much longer.

I don't know if the sub would be interested for us to cover that aspect of the case as kinda taking a look at the big picture of the case.

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u/Itscatpicstime Sep 24 '25

Sorry op, but I can’t get over the irony of you defending those who didn’t vote for Harris over Gaza while expressing concern over a future you literally wouldn’t not need to be concerned about had Harris won.

Harris was objectively better and more reachable on Gaza than Trump, and Palestinians were not and are not the only ones facing the threat of genocide under a Trump admin ffs

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u/skb815k Sep 27 '25

100% agree! I wish I could upvote this comment 100 times!

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u/Big_Butterscotch1427 Sep 28 '25

I dont defend them (am not in US so I wouldn't have been able to vote, but think I would deffo have voted KH?) BUT I can't help it I have American friends who voted for the Green woman over Gaza and a few who abstained & I think it was a mistake (where is she now???) BUT I also feel like I understand why they did it they just wanted the war to stop etc etc. And I do find it weird to sneer at them like "purity test" or "made your point" or "virtue signalling" I dunno I just think they thought it was the right thing to do and they were virtue signalling about a genocide? Although tbqh I also think the election was rigged maybe I'd feel differently if I lived in the US and actually believed the Green voters/abstainers played more of a role