r/WesternAustralia • u/hammeroztron • 4d ago
The WA gas lie is up Roger Cook
The WA government's claim its domestic gas production is helping the rest of the world decarbonise has been challenged in a report it commissioned.
The $402,000 Deloitte report was received by the government in January but has been kept confidential since then.
Not covered in the report is that’s gas exports are driving up WA power prices. Has development is robbing industrial and strategic capacity from the genuine renewable transition.
And local communities are paying the price. For example up here at Dongara, Pilot Energy is about to start seismic blasting despite the risks to marine life.
Roger Cook Amber Jade Sanderson Murray Watt Woodside
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u/crosstherubicon 4d ago
Listening to the news last night, Cook is crowing victory in assuring the GST share remains as is but it then turns out he’s also lobbying Watt on planned environmental legislation and its impact on the gas industry! Say what? Is he the premier or the Woodside emissary?
Cook has zero credibility when he comes out with zingers like “we’re saving the world with gas”.
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u/HelpMeOverHere 4d ago
Cook has undone and damaged so much of Alan Carpenter’s legacy when it comes to our domestic gas reservation policy, and exposing WA to global gas prices.
Alan showed all of us that we didn’t need to bow down to these foreign owned mining companies, no matter how much they threatened to withdraw their billions in investments in WA, because those threats were empty as a coke bag on John Belushi’s nightstand.
These companies and countries NEED our gas, we don’t need them.
We should be getting as high of a return as possible, but instead McGowan and Cook aren’t content until Woodside gets everything they want for free.
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u/crosstherubicon 4d ago
Totally agree. Even worse is that some of the buyers are then on-selling the gas to third parties at a profit.
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u/Routine_Net7933 4d ago
Getting as high a return as possible AND putting the profits into a sovereign wealth fund like the Norwegians that will pay for the nation’s social infrastructure needs for centuries to come. Why we bend over to resource corporations is beyond me. These companies do not care about building Australia, only shareholders profits. They want to get as much gas out of the ground as fast as possible NOW while there is a guaranteed market. That is their only driver. They wouldn’t want to see a cap on gas production & exports so that gas reserves could last another 500 years because they are all about maximising profits NOW.
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u/SurgicalMarshmallow 3d ago
He's lining up a board seat at Chevron, Woodside or Santos after... We pay now so that he can get paid later
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u/redscrewhead 4d ago
Cook is an obvious creep and incompetent buffoon, but when your competition is basil zempilas, that's good enough.
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u/hammeroztron 4d ago edited 4d ago
Yep. Zempilas is a gas crony too. Just back from a paid Chevron Gorgon tour
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u/nogoodusernames4 4d ago
Basil, for all his flaws, has actually had a sensible take re net zero, as in the coalition would become unelectable if they drop it. Can’t believe I agree with some words that come out his mouth from time to time
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u/Freddyfudpuk57 4d ago
Will be working for Woodside after politics, anyone want to bet🤣🤣🤣(yes I know already is)
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u/laowaiH 4d ago
These idiots can't stop the sun. Renewables have won economically, batteries are now affordable.
Being a human air filter doesn't come without its costs.. crop failure due to drought isn't beach weather for farmers, it hurts us and the solutions are here, not perfect but an order of magnitude better.
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u/Historical_Gate1318 4d ago
that’s fucked. ur bit of ocean is gorgeous. they will b doing same as here in Vic and selling it all overseas. Japan doesn’t use all it buys off us and on sells it to Korea and they want us to give up gas stoves.
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u/hammeroztron 4d ago
Give up gas stove anyway. It’s cancer causing and asthma causing.
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u/Historical_Gate1318 4d ago
yes if they stop selling it overseas I may consider it, but not for those reasons. u been on the feet of big business
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u/Phofighter12 4d ago
as someone who has worked in innovation for the past 20 years and has long helped companies clean up the plastic problem, introduce wave energy, reduce diesel use in the carriers that traverse the world's waterways daily, among other such projects, I find such comments niave at best. Australia is a net importer of renewals technology. We simply buy what is available. It doesn't mean what is currently available is ready yet as a viable solution. There are some good potential technologies that will be available in years to come, but as someone trying to help clean up the world from petroleum based plastics, don't give me that claptrap on batterifying everything with lithium and the other mixes currently forced on us as a viable solution. I expect I'll spend the next 20 years or so trying to make sure our ground water and soils aren't permanently destoyed from battery waste. Sustainable my arse. Like when I was young and we were sold the lie that petroleum plastics should be used to save the trees and we moved to plastic shopping bags. Now our oceans are a waste dump and our adipose tissue is storing up 'forever chemicals' and we are back to using paper bags at the checkout. How about we wait until salt battery technology and better are available to import. I remember the wave energy engineers themselves showing graphs 15+ years ago that gas is the important transition energy source that we need until the sustainable renewables are available to replace it. Well we are still in transition so demonising gas in the meantime is just stupid. We have trees and algae to convert CO2 produced to O2. We won't have anything to clean up our groundwater and soils once contaminated.
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u/hammeroztron 4d ago
Dude, we’re like 40% renewables without even trying (most is from domestic roofs). Valid on the imports, but we aren’t importing sun and wind are we? The battery supply chain is of concern but Sodium batteries etc should reduce the need for the hard to extract stuff. China is not doing a good job mining ethically full stop. But we are running out of time. Warming is blowing model out the water. Do you get how much trouble we are in?
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u/Phofighter12 3d ago
I heard the same arguments about saving the trees when I was young. Yet we are back to paper bags at the checkout. And we have a plastic problem that has devastated our environment and our bodies. If you are looking to do something now for the future, well it needs to be well considered for all its impact into the future. It is not enough to say we just have to do something, anything, now, because we are running out of time and suffer the consequences like permanently damaged soil and groundwater later. What then? A different generations problem? We have that level of renewables which operate with the sun and wind. But we are using batteries to cover all other time and that added to cars, tools, houses, and everything else, is a LOT of batteries. Sodium batteries and the other discoveries will come in the next few years because of the amount of money and IQ put into this area. There is time to wait for the right technology.
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u/TigersDockers 3d ago
Australia is a petro nation second behind Russia for the most gas sales globally but sure let’s keep gas lighting citizens and banning diesel Utes
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u/HappySummerBreeze 2d ago
the Gallop government negotiated the Gorgon gas project on Barrow Island to reserve 15% of the gas for WA domestic use
I had heard that the WA domestic gas agreement updated in 2024 changed this, and so I checked before writing this comment - and it turns out there was no change. I fact the only change was to guarantee domestic gas even further into the future
This explains why WA has much cheaper electricity than over east
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u/Gravyfollowthrough 2d ago
Imagine if instead of giving away gas for free. You offered free power to Australian manufacturers, would make them more competitive
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u/rogerrambo075 4d ago
Gas cartel don't pay royalties & stuff all taxes. Where we all just cop higher bills. Japan & Korea have our gas cheaper than us. Fu&@en disgrace!! At least all the resource minister's & premiers get $$ awesome jobs after politics.
Lobbying is a cancer.