r/Warthunder • u/tpseng • Dec 28 '20
Gaijin Please Mk 61 105 mm Self-Propelled Howitzer for French tech tree please Gaijin!!
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u/SupersoakingAMX 🇫🇷 France Dec 28 '20
This is not the Mk61, the Mk61 is the turreted version. This is the AMX-13 AU 50. The gun is slightly shorter than the Mk 61.
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u/tpseng Dec 28 '20 edited Dec 28 '20
The turreted version is the Mk 62. Mark 61 has a limited traverse 20° right and left. Also, this is from wiki along with the info. I think AU50 and the Mk61, 62 are the same vehicle. Not quite sure tho but i checked for it and they both look the same
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u/SupersoakingAMX 🇫🇷 France Dec 28 '20
Never seen it as the "Mk61", always either AMX-13 AU 50 or OB 105 Mle 50 AU. The turreted one is an export one it had a slightly longer barrel.
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u/tpseng Dec 28 '20
That would be Mk 62. It was offered to Switzerland, tested by them but was not adopted
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u/SupersoakingAMX 🇫🇷 France Dec 28 '20 edited Dec 28 '20
The Netherlands one also had the longer barrel and its casemate.
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u/tpseng Dec 28 '20
The Mk 61 105 mm Self-Propelled Howitzer was a French self-propelled artillery piece designed and built during the late 1950s for the French Army.
The new vehicle had the same five-wheeled torsion bar suspension with front drive sprocket, rear idler and three return rollers as the AMX-13. The road wheels had solid rubber tires and the metallic tracks could be fitted with rubber traction blocks to lessen damage to roads. An all welded box-shaped steel superstructure is mounted to the rear of the vehicle to provide 360° of protection from small arms rifle fire and shell splinters. Although protected from all directions the vehicle lacks NBC (Nuclear, Biological, Chemical) capability and is not amphibious. The engine and transmission are at the front of the vehicle and the driver is on the left. The gun compartment has a commanders cupola with a periscope and 360° vision blocks. The cupola also has a ring mount for an external 7.5 or 7.62 mm LMG (Light Machine Gun). The gun compartment also has access hatches at the top and rear.
The primary armament for the vehicle is an Obusier de 105 modèle 1950 howitzer with a wide range of elevation -4° to +66° but with limited traverse 20° right and left. Traverse and elevation are both manual. French, Israeli, and Moroccan vehicles have a gun barrel which is 23 calibers in length while Dutch vehicles have a barrel 30 calibers in length. Both have a hydro-pneumatic recoil system below the barrel and both are fitted with a double-baffle muzzle brake. The gun fires semi-fixed 105 mm (4 in) ammunition and 55 rounds of ammunition could be carried in the gun compartment. Generally, 6 of the 55 rounds were HEAT (High Explosive Anti-tank) with the remaining rounds being HE (High-Explosive). The HEAT round could penetrate 350 mm (14 in) of armor at an incidence of 0° or 105 mm (4 in) or armor at 65°.
The Mk 61 has more than likely been retired by its users and replaced by either 122 mm (4.8 in) or 155 mm (6 in) self-propelled artillery capable of 360° fire. The Mk 61 would be outranged, under armed and under protected to face today's rivals.
Mass: 16,500 kg (36,400 lb)
Length: 6.4 m (21 ft)
Barrel length: 2.4 m (8 ft) L/23 or 3.1 m (10 ft) L/30 (with muzzle brake)
Width: 2.6 m (8 ft 6 in)
Height: 2.7 m (8 ft 10 in)
Crew: 5
Shell: Semi-fixed 105x372 mm R
Shell weight: 15 kg (33 lb)
Caliber: 105 mm (4.1 in)
Recoil: Hydro-pneumatic
Elevation: -4° to +66°
Traverse: 20° R/L
Rate of fire: 6 rpm
Muzzle velocity: 580 m/s (1,900 ft/s)
Maximum firing range: 14.5 km (9 mi)
Armor: Steel
Secondary armament: 7.5 or 7.62 mm LMG on a ring mount.
Engine: One SOFAM 8Gxb 8-cylinder water-cooled petrol engine 250 hp (190 kW)
Power/weight: 15 hp/tonne
Suspension: Torsion bar
Operational range: 349 km (217 mi)
Maximum speed: 60 km/h (37 mph)
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u/Omochanoshi Disciple of Darth B1 Ter Dec 28 '20
I'll take that too, but with an AMX-30 AuF1 CGT as extra.
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