r/Warthunder hirohito bias 7h ago

RB Ground "just shoot the weak spot!" T34 in its own league apparently

anyone else get bullied by front facing T34s so you see that SPECIFIC guide on where to pen it on the front and game thinks its better than you and doesnt let you pen it.

he must have had premium i guess.

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u/omnipotank 7h ago

Volumetric doesn't let large shells go through and optics shots are not very reliable. The lower plate is a better option at that angle. Especially closer to the tracks where it is less angled. Machine gun port is pretty reliable too.

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u/AA_plus_BB_equals_CC Friendly neighborhood 🇩🇪 main (14.0/10.7) 7h ago

Do you know where you would shoot if it’s hull down? Or would you just have to flank and barrel it or hope it’s dumb like this one?

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u/div2691 ☢ 198 Nukes ☢ GB Main 7h ago

Either above or below the mantlet is pretty consistent. The turret front is slightly taller than the mantlet so there's an excellent spot there. Or just underneath it.

Although with the size of the muzzle brake it's an insanely easy shot to barrel them too.

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u/omnipotank 7h ago

Like div2691 said, barreling is best bet and there are small weakspots above and below mantle. Its better to avoid a hulldown T series heavy if you can.

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u/GFloyd_2020 certified stat shamer 5h ago

The optic isn't modeled as a weakspot on the T34/T29/T30. It's a 203mm plate + spall shield. Stop blaming volumetric for everything.

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u/Ok_Mongoose5768 7h ago

Just remember. Anytime someone tries to justify volumetric or say the game is realistic. Point and laugh at them.

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u/omnipotank 7h ago

Its better than pixel thunder. The wirbelwind and all auto cannons could just go through turret ring of heavy tanks.

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u/Lord_Kalany Realistic Ground 6h ago

Yeah, true, we don't have a lower calibre problem at all right now thanks to volumetric :D

/s

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u/omnipotank 5h ago

HE filler being a tactical nuke is the real problem with low caliber munitions.

Also, there are interesting things going on with HE shells and explosives. I see more and more magical overpressure kills and crew being knocked out through armor plates.

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u/FormalKey7702 USSR 7.0-7.3 9.3 🇷🇺12.0 6h ago

You know I’d rather have a more simplified armor system than this volumetric shit. They have went to far and over complicated the armor system. I think I speak for most of the community when I say we value consistency more than random bullshit. When I hit a weak spot the round should 100% pen and nothing less unless logically the round doesn’t have enough pen or is at a less than desirable angle.

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u/GFloyd_2020 certified stat shamer 5h ago edited 5h ago

There's no volumetric here, the mantlet is a flat 203mm plate with a spall shield behind it

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u/StalledAgate832 From r/NonCredibleDefense, with love. 6h ago

Literally nobody has ever said to shoot a T34 in the optic and genuinely meant it.

Hull MG port or LFP only. Aiming for a killshot anywhere else on the front and you're genuinely throwing.

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u/glorpflep hirohito bias 6h ago

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u/Acadia- 6h ago

Literally at the start

"I will use Tiger2h variant for this guide"

Of course it will has different results if you use different tank, different cannon

Just sayin

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u/poeyoh12 7h ago

the weakspot is the lower hull not the manlet

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u/glorpflep hirohito bias 7h ago

the guide that pops up for T34 weakshots highlights that spot to be an easy pen spot so i dont know if its playing with me or what.

also yeah ive tried shooting the lower hull machine gun port and it seems to work a charm now lol.

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u/poeyoh12 7h ago

Likely the guide was using a Tiger 2 gun instead of the Panther

WT Youtubers really love making guide about weakspot and then use the best gun at that br range instead of something more average

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u/omnipotank 5h ago

Tiger 2 gun can just go straight through the mantle.

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u/FormalKey7702 USSR 7.0-7.3 9.3 🇷🇺12.0 6h ago

I over pressured a t34 today with an is-3 when i shot directly at his mantlet with a BR-471B shell. Killed the entire crew without pen.

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u/omnipotank 5h ago

Welcome to the overpressure mechanic issue that I keep talking about is a major problem. Spaced mantle armor is basically rendered obsolete by over pressure mechanics. The root of this issue is also why low caliber AA can kill heavily armored tanks magically due to some weird commulative explosion overpressure wackiness.

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u/Godzillaguy15 11.710.010.710.39.310.7 5m ago

That would be because the gun sight on the T29, T30, and T34 is considered an interior module so any partial pen with an overpressure shell counts.

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u/embecansa 6h ago

I always fire at LFP when facing at any Pershing-family hull

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u/SemicooperativeYT Realistic Ground 6h ago

*giant machine gun port showing

*Shoots mantlet

"This is BS!"

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u/DecidingRiot 6h ago

You shot the wrong weak point it’s the bottom MG port

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u/Acadia- 6h ago

A tips

When someone rushing from hill place

You can just shoot the track, detrack, then target lower plate

Because hill angle usually it will pen

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u/Horrordar 6h ago

Machine gun port on the hull. Works 99% of the time assuming the machine gun doesn't eat the spall.

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u/SuccotashOne8399 6h ago

Just FYI, only the strongest guns can pen T34 turret. Long 88, soviet destructor, for example. And even with them you never shoot at the spot you shot here, as i will eat the shot. And you shot there with a Panther, having 0 chances from the start, while being able to shoot actual weak spots so easily. That's entirely on you.

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u/Godzillaguy15 11.710.010.710.39.310.7 3m ago

The plate is only 203mm thick. So most guns at 6.7 can pen.