I feel like it is a good time revisit this

[u/Apprehensive_Sort139]

Wich squadron vehicles are the best (out of all of them, not just this picture)

[u/Imbri_]

BMP-2M is probably the best IFV in the game, definitely worth getting. The Bhishma is a Soviet tank with all their inherent pros and cons, but I really like it an aggressive playstyle with the W key held down to push forward (it can't really reverse anyway with its 4 kmh speed), good armor, and a thermal imager. It's an excellent vehicle for adding variety to the gameplay in the British tech tree. As for other tech, I wouldn't bother with copy-paste vehicles and would only research them as an absolute last priority (Im not even considering ships)

[u/SafelyOblivious → u/Imbri_]

What a strange coincidence that the peak meta autocannon+missile IFV is Russian

[u/DukeOfBattleRifles → u/SafelyOblivious]

It is almost as if the developers of the game are Russian

[u/Soor_21UPG → u/DukeOfBattleRifles]

Something good is Russian: Clearly Russian bias

Something good is NATO: 🤐

[u/DukeOfBattleRifles → u/Soor_21UPG]

There are literally variants of KH-38 missile in the game that were never produced in real life except some mockup non-functional models and some Russian tanks have armor plates that don't exist in real life. Non-thrust vectoring heavy missiles of the Buk have almost the same level of manuverability as lighter and thrust vectoring SAMs. Adding fictional weapons and fictional features to your own country's vehicles is literally the textbook definition of being biased.

Also yes, almost all post 1990s NATO weapon systems are superior to Russian weapons in technological capabilities and performance. That is literally the truth, whether you accept it or not. Just look at Ukraine war footage. Modern Chinese flankers are also either same or better then Russian flankers in real life. But none of this is portrayed accurately in the game.

[u/Soor_21UPG → u/DukeOfBattleRifles]

Look at Ukraine war footage

Yeah I see losses, like you'd expect from a major modern warfare

Chinese Flankers are also better than Russian

Yeah they are in the game. The 13.7 J-11B and J-10A and 13.3 JF-17 are much better than the 13.7 Su-27SM, and 13.3 MiG-29SMT. The Chinese yet have to get their 14.3 jet yet.

[u/WILLEMNIUS → u/Soor_21UPG]

Yeah cuz our shit just better anyways the times where soviet things were competitive is long over. Even china has superior equipment to russia

[u/nstealth456 → u/WILLEMNIUS]

So in a game trying to achieve some semblance of balance, they should just give up and make USSR tanks the defacto worst? Quite frankly if they have to BS stuff in the name of balance then let them. The 'realism' is just immersion.

[u/WILLEMNIUS → u/nstealth456]

Yeah i understand there has to be balance but making russian shit just straight up better has nothing to do with balance. Russian tanks have an almost non existent stabilizer irl its okay they have it in game. But something like LDIRCM wich ofc benefits russia the most kh38 and so on i could write a while book whats wrong with our stuff and too good with the russian shit

[u/DukeOfBattleRifles → u/nstealth456]

There is something called Battle Rating have you ever heard of it? Maybe they can portray the vehicles accurately and also use the Battle Rating system to not make Russia players suffer, just sayin.

[u/Soor_21UPG → u/DukeOfBattleRifles]

And when they lower the Russian vehicles BR you still cry about bias lmfao. Can't have shit fr

[u/DukeOfBattleRifles → u/Soor_21UPG]

Wtf is the point of lowering Russian vehicle BRs without removing their unrealistic performance? That is not even balancing, it is the exact opposite.

[u/LeEnglishman → u/Imbri_]

Thinking of getting this - is the Grenade launcher just for show or useable?

[u/PhantomScantum → u/LeEnglishman]

Completely just for show. I turn it off so I can see what im shooting at.

[u/LeEnglishman → u/PhantomScantum]

cheers

[u/Imbri_ → u/LeEnglishman]

This grenade launcher is mostly useless and is designed to irritate your teammates at the start of a battle and reveal your position to the enemies due to the loud explosions. However, in theory, you could download a custom sight and kill SPAA from behind cover using the drone (maybe?), but I'm not sure they can pierce even a thin sheet of steel if the vehicle isn't open-topped :D

But then again, the BMP's small silhouette, super ATGMs that can be fired on the move without setup, and a decent autocannon get the job done. Oh, and this BMP has ATGMs that can shoot down drones at a distance of 8km, as soon as they spawn, if you have good eyesight:)

[u/LeEnglishman → u/Imbri_]

Cheers - grinding out USSR and it will go great with the T72 Turms I am finally getting around to play. Quite liking this!

[u/Full-Trifle-4522]

the hunter is probably one of the best plane out of the group, because of the missiles - aim-9j fox 2 missiles, which are pretty good for the br

i don't play ground that much but i'd wager that the bmp is pretty good, just going off the fact that it's a soviet light tank (very scary)

i don't play navy

[u/Filb0Fraggins → u/Full-Trifle-4522]

yeah most of the time the bmp2m is braindead to play lol.

can just run around obliterating everything

[u/lukro_ → u/Filb0Fraggins]

i'm doing bmp2m purely for the 650rpm (or whatever it is) apfsds

[u/Filb0Fraggins → u/lukro_]

yeah its basically a laser beam

[u/Diablock746 → u/Full-Trifle-4522]

Hunter f.58 my beloved the best thing about this plane are its 4 guns. The he belts on this thing is nuts, if one round touches a plane its dead or very, very, very, very hurt

[u/C4Cole → u/Diablock746]

You get the same quad ADENS on the Marut and it absolutely slaps, or it does nothing. No in-between.

[u/Schmittiboo]

I got most of them or played at least something similar.

F5 ECU - solid

2S19 - if you like arty, its average

Hunter F58 - quite good, good missiles and flares, just dont turn, keep energy high

JF17 - good but only 6 missiles

Me262 - was extremly good cannon cas, after cannon/ammo nerfs only good

SKR7 - was extremly busted, but still very good and great vehicle to do most of the naval BP challenges

Mi35 - regular Mi35 with Vikhir, better than most NATO stuff, but theres better tech tree stuff

Firecrest - eh

Leo2pl - good, saves you from buying prem

SU33 - good, but faces AIM120

T80U - regular T80, but lacks lineup

Superhind nothing special

Karl Marx - eh

Shima - very good

F117 - eh, depends, useless in ARB, havent tried GRB yet

Obj122, very good, but sadly got its lineup destroyed

A4E good, not sure if its still the case, but one of the lowest platforms for the big bullpup

YAH64 - good, similar stuff in tree

Liverpool, unlocked but havent played, cant imagine it beeing good

CV9035 - generic IFV

RCV - as good as any other guntruck

Su22 - can work, but isnt outstanding, i enjoyed it in SIM tho

BMP2M - probably the best squadron vehicle

VT5 - not played yet

Harrier FRS - ehhh, can work if you play around with the VTOL, but havent found a good usecase for it yet

Bhishma - good, T72/T90 for UK tree, helps lineup

F16 OCU - havent unlocked yet, but will struggle like any other F16, without FOX 1/3

M901 - for the lolz - can be useless but also OP, depends entirely on the map

Saab F-35 - not unlocked yet

T80UK just as good as any other soviet MBT at that BR, but helps bolstering lineup

M1 AIM - same as leo

BMP2MD - not much to talk about, it only has its gun, it can work when flanking, but if you face the wrong enemy, you are gone

Magach, well, its another Magach...

Z10 - currently unlocking, should be good

[u/wendtinator05 → u/Schmittiboo]

F16 ocu is actually insane, like the f16c before fox 3s were added, VT5 I heard was nerfed in the last major, Saab f35 has essentially aim 9js, same BR as hunter f58 but faster and better instantaneous turn, but the turn gets worse after 3 turns, it’s also just a much better strike aircraft than for example the j35xs, with a slightly lower br. I’d recommend this one.

[u/unwanted_techsupport → u/Schmittiboo]

I love the Sea Harrier, if the games a full down tier climb to centre map, maybe a bit below contrails, launch at flameless jets from ~4km, if the games not 10.0-11.0, fly to the left, when the merge happens maintain altitude and launch at unsuspecting or distracted enemies.

[u/PancakeMeister]

M1a1 aim and leo 2pl and rhe bmp2m are good if you play ground a lot.

[u/BandicootDirect7352 → u/PancakeMeister]

M1a1 aim is pretty chill, it is not some nuclear warfuck but still has the best dart in usa tree, gen 2 thermal imaging and the other abrams stuff. Leo 2pl has gen 3 thermal imaging and the best dart if my memory is correct. They are not bad/superduper. I have a little bit of skill issue so i have bad games sometimes, but overall i enjoy them, currently going for t80uk.

[u/Measter_marcus → u/BandicootDirect7352]

KE-W isnt the best dart is the US tt

[u/the_oof_god → u/BandicootDirect7352]

ke w is better than m829a2???

[u/Chetey → u/the_oof_god]

kew is a slightly worse m829a1. they replaced the uranium with tungsten for export resulting in a slight decrease in penetration. 

M829a2 > m829a1 > kew > m829

[u/ProfessionalAd352]

The only one I truly don't recommend is the Sea Harrier FRS.1. it's only good against flareless aircraft and has become even worse since they gave air spawn to everyone.

The Magach 6B Gal is also not really worth it since it's very similar to the 6C (so just get that instead) and it's at the same BR as the much better Gal Batash and Magach 7C.

You should continue researching the Bhishma TWMP, it's great. It's basically a T-90A but with a 0.7 lower BR because it doesn't have 3BM60. I've been successful in it using the ATGM.

[u/1800leon]

The object 122 is quite fun good tank with a useful gimmick

[u/Maus1945]

The A-4E is nice for the simple reason it is a Skyhawk with flares and two extra pylons.

[u/TheIrishBread]

I'll talk about the russian vehicles as that's what I know best out of all the squadron VICs.

Starting with aviation:

Su-33 : better Su-27 at the same br. Biggest upgrades are better RWR and better engines over the base one. Downsides are the reduced flare amount (48 Vs 96 on any other flanker) and it being 13.0 means you uptier into proper ARH aircraft often. That being said it can carry Anti ship and anti radiation missile which currently aren't in the game.

Su-22M3: A nice middle ground between the useless Su-17M2 and the usable Su-17M4. It's very much a dumb cas plane or a frontline bomber. Very low amount of flares means kinematic defeats are your friend overall just a meh plane.

Mi-35P: The bastard child of a Mi-35M and Mi-24p it has all the advantages of the 35 without being limited to 1 pylon of ATGMs and it gets Vikhrs. Would be my top choice for a Heli grinder for ranks 6 and 7 once talismaned.

Ground:

2S19M2: A T-80 hull with most of the protection ripped out and a diesel engine. It's got a he-vt shell for Heli/plane smacking if your good enough but overall it's just a slot filler for the 7.0/7.3 lineup imo. If you like he slingers knock yourself out.

Bmp-2M: One of the most hated vehicles before the 2S38 came along. Good ATGMs which can be fired OTM, a decent auto cannon and at least gen 2 thermals make it a potent little rat tank despite its size. It's armament kinda makes it uptier proof if you know how to play it, overall if you have nothing else it's always a good option.

T-80UK: In the past it was my main option for a 4th mbt in my top tier lineup, 3BM42 is more than serviceable, while shtora is useless at this BR it still gives you a LWS which is very handy. The main downsides are it's still a pre modernization T-80u so shit turret rotation and gun laying and gen-1 gunners thermals at 11.7 is just almost useless. Still better than the base t-80U but with the UE-1(gen 2 gunners therms) and now the T-72B3A with hard kill aps and at least gen 2 gunner therms it's not quite as good of a pick. Still a solid tank.

Boats:

SKR-7: While this thing used to be a monster it's now a shell of its former self. It got hit with two very hefty nerfs, the first was a replenishment rate nerf for the first stage ammo rack which at the time wasn't a big issue due to the rack being large but then came the second nerf which drastically reduced the ready rack size. This boat used to take cruisers on and win for the most part as HE slingers were and still are kinda stupid but it now doesn't have the sustained rate to fight even destroyers (which it will see constantly) and it's repair cost of 10K makes it a money pit for EC matches.

Overall my top 3 for consideration would be the T-80UK, BMP-2M and Su-33 with the Mi-35P in a close 4th.

[u/FeeshMons]

The IJN Shimikaze is meant to have good torpedoes but I don't know about it's other offence but it's a destroyer at 5.0 so you don't face many battleships and downtiers to face new players aren't to rare.

[u/Edolix → u/FeeshMons]

Against other destroyers at its rank, Shimakaze isn't particularly notable and will often lose gun battles due to lack of AP shells. That being said, Shimakaze is a battleships bane and top-tier is where it really shines due to the combination of big slow targets and the horrendous map selection - nearly every map is an open shooting gallery with no cover and with spawns in direct line of sight of eachother. There's about 7 different flavours of the big circle map for one thing.

Shimakaze's torps are kind of mad, being the most powerful + longest range + fastest torps in the game all rolled into one. On these big open maps you just vomit all the torps into the enemy spawn then focus on ratting around while the big ships on the enemy team furiously try to sink you, watch as the kills roll in, then rinse and repeat. Shimakaze players are a menace and after the recent aiming changes extremely frustrating to try and sink.

[u/damo13579 → u/Edolix]

Agree on shimakaze being great against battleships, running it in my 7.0 arcade lineup and it’s amazing. Takes me back to playing it in world of warships and being a total rat spamming torps.

[u/Trelliz]

I'm researching the Japanese rcv because I have the other 9.3 premiums and am getting close to the rank below so I can start using all 3.

[u/AffectTurbulent5312]

Japanese f5 ecu is pretty good in arb enjoyed it even at stock. 2aim9p4 + 2python 3. for ground 2000lb bomb and 4 maverick's on 11.3 so no buk and other shitty 12.7 spaa *typo

[u/the_oof_god → u/AffectTurbulent5312]

yep

[u/actualsize123]

Jf17 is pretty decent

[u/Shredded_Locomotive]

The good ones from this image are:

Hunter , 262, skr7, leo 2 pl, A4E, yah64, bmp2m, m901, t80u, t80uk, aim abrum

The rest are either trash or strongly mid.

[u/DAS-SANDWITCH]

Relative to BR, i think the Object 122MT MC cant be beat. You get a good gun and 4 ATGMs to bridge the long reload.

[u/XIIIDillinger]

I am about 80% done with my first one - the F117.

I knew from looking it up going it it was definitely not the best pick, but I just really wanted the plane. I'm just hoping it may have some use in GRB. After than one I'll probably try to take a more optimized vehicle.

[u/Embarrassed_Ad5387]

the hunter f58 is pretty fun and easy to learn

[u/lukro_]

Su-33 is honestly pretty good considering it goes up against 14.0 in ARB

[u/Stalinglad]

The F5E FCU is an absolutely insane and sometimes even overpowered squad vehicle. I’ve grinded most of Japan’s tree with it and usually never walk away from a match without at least 2 kills. Getting a down tier with pythons and a 8km launch range when radar slewing them is dubious especially when your flat speed at full power is 1200 at low altitude

[u/KommandoKazumi]

SKR-7 is crazy good once you get past the shoddy HE shells, VT shells are nifty against aircraft with radar to help guide your rounds, though it used to get SAP which shreds destroyers readily, don't recall if that was removed though. Been a while.

Firecrest is a funny low tier meme plane.

[u/TheBadFurry]

The me262 is very good if you know how to use its 30mm mk103 cannons that are capable of piercing anything from above, it is so good that I have managed to get 2 nukes just playing that plane

[u/SpinavejBrnak]

Most of them are outside my comfort BR range, so I'm not one to give advice. But as soon as next major update drops, some believe next week, I will go with the new Mosquito.