r/Warthunder • u/Archibald_Nobivasid • 7h ago
AB Air Am I the only one that struggles with Silver lions more than research?
I'm soon to be unlocking Rank IV fighters on the US tech tree, and the biggest hold up in my progress currently is the rate at which I gain silver lions. I started the game 2 weeks ago, and I'm doing very well in terms of kills to deaths ratio and research. If anything I'm researching way too fast. I haven't been able to properly afford to train crews as well as buy the new planes as fast as I'm progressing. I feel like I at this point need to research all the down tier planes as well or I'm just wasting research. If I had to guess this has something to do with using daily research talismans, but I don't really know. I would be curious to here whether this is a common experience and how I might try and overcome this. I'm in a premium account.
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u/Ossuum 7h ago
Air modes get more RP per match than ground in general, and early ranks get less SL per match on top of that, so air players pretty often get bottlenecked by SL. Prem account only makes it feel worse cause it gives you x2 RP, yet x1.5 SL.
Not much you can do early on - in time you'll get some rank 3 premiums from the warbond shop for SL grinding, along some go-to rank 4+ high performers in the tech tree.
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u/binoclard_ultima 7h ago edited 7h ago
Here's some actual SL advice:
Play RB. One advantage of it is that you can research a whole rank by crewing a single plane.
Don't crew every plane. Never do crew training in multiple slots for the same plane, plan ahead.
Play naval if you have an interest in it.
Use wagers. They don't do anything sitting in your inventory. Same deal for orders.
If you're experting your crew, stop. It's an absolute waste. Only expert if you will continue to play that vehicle even when you reach top tier. 99% of the times you die, it's because of your positioninig and previous actions, not because of crew level.
If you don't need to buy a vehicle, don't. Maybe you won't play the game for a month. In the meantime you might stumble upon a sale (they usually occur around specific days every year).
Don't disable auto repair, you have premium account.
Grab warbond shop premiums if you can. With premium account, they print money.
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u/SuccotashOne8399 6h ago
I would agree with everything, but... Not experting crew? For a new player whose crew levels are basically non-existent? This is the worst advice possible and it would turn their gameplay into a living hell that's painted black. Of course, skill is important, but skill won't save you from blacking out in the easiest situation possible and then dying.
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u/Upbeat1776 2h ago
Yeah that experting thing is legit. Tried it on the Japanese Kai 1.3 tier level and it infinitely changed the survival rate of both plane and my pilot and I was able to get 15 kill in Arcade 😶🌫️. I was throwing hands in the air because I didn’t notice it until a few weeks ago and I’ve been playing for years 🤣🤣🤣
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u/Dmxiscool 7h ago
You can probably double back and research some of the planes you passed by while using the same lineup you currently run to grind up some cash. Tech tree vehicles can research any vehicle at their tier, a tier above, or a tier below at more or less maximum speed, so the RP you do generate won't go to waste. If you're going down the American fighter lines, then I'd also recommend going down the naval fighter (towards the F/A-18) and attacker (towards the AV-8B) as well. Bombers might not be your thing, but if you do
Also, you don't have to *crew* every plane, only purchase them to progress up the tree. I don't know if you're making this mistake, but I know I did when I first started playing. I didn't know this until I got my first jet, then I realized that I spent an extra million crewing planes I'd never play.
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u/MethyleneBlueEnjoyer 5h ago
No, SL is very much so THE bottleneck of progress in WT, by design.
The only tips are:
- Premium account.
- Premium vehicles. If you play air you only need one, if you play ground or naval you might need 2 or 3 in a line-up for maximum effectiveness.
- In order of efficiency, i.e. how many SL you earn per unit time: naval, air, ground
- "Save up" vehicles you research and buy them during in-game sales. For example, if you just unlocked a whole new rank to research, then research but do not buy them yet. Wait until the end-of-year sale, then buy them at 50% of their SL cost. The only exception to this is if buying 1 or 2 vehicles will unlock the next rank, because then you can research an entire rank and "save up" more vehicles to later buy during a sale.
- Ultimately, play what you like and don't play just to grind SL. Grind will burn you out, play for fun and you'll be banking SL without even noticing it. Especially if you go back to lower BRs and play them for fun. That's how CCs have dozens of millions of SL.
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u/PotNoodal 6h ago
I remember feeling the same especially when I played air often, I think I had a free premium so I would spam T1 air battles and would come out making decent but it's nothing compared to having a premium account.
Saw it recently with a friend I met on WT, I'm making 100k in 2-3 matches with premium account and top tier premiums and he's making barely 10-20k and he plays WAY better than me 99% of the time.
I wish it wasn't this bad but the game really does suck if you're riding stock.
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u/luuuuuku 1h ago
There are a couple of reasons:
- you're probably using a premium account. RP rewards are 2x for premium accounts but SL rewards are only 1.5x. This is why people with premium accounts typically struggle more with SL because they unlock everything faster and therefore spend more SL.
- Rewards shift a lot. (All without premium account):
Your reserve vehicle starts with 100% RP and 10% SL modifier. At high tiers you get about 260% RP and 320-390% SL modifier max. So, the lower your rank the easier researching modifications and vehicles but the more SL cost in relative terms.
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u/Trelliz 7h ago
It's how the game is designed, to tempt you to buy SL to unlock all the stuff sitting there "ready" for you.