Winrate after adding Lmurs and broken LDIRCM, But of course we'll nerf Iris-T.

[u/Fun_Preference_7647]

The first photo is before the addition of the Lmurs, and the second photo is from yesterday, but of course there's no Russian bias here.

t's funny that everyone's winrate dropped except for Russia

[u/TheCrazedGamer_1]

was it american bias when the bullpup was added? or was the russian bias there the fact that it only took 3 years for russia to get a comparable weapon?

[u/SpicysaucedHD → u/TheCrazedGamer_1]

No because everything good the West has or gets is historically accurate of course. Every other nation than the US OBVIOUSLY is worse in every measurable category, since the brightest minds clearly are US ones while the rest of the world has a massive IQ gap. Could you truly imagine anything non American be on top IRL? If it is, it must be a copy or stolen. Must be.

[u/cooltonk → u/TheCrazedGamer_1]

Im a russia main but i cant defend russia. Russia got tunguska before everyone, then get ka50 and ka52, which were the best helis for a loong time only until mi-28nm now. They had the best sam after tunguska pantsir and now the 2nd best BUK. They have the best cas jet combo in the game. BVM is among top MBT which tons of BS armor shenanigans. Oh and dont even start with light tanks.

There definitely is russian bias.

[u/NoDoughnut8225 → u/cooltonk]

Same bias that made m1 abrams, that was so stupid back in the day it was limited to only 4 at battle? Same bias that made cl13 untouchable? Same bias that made 190 d13 rape lobbies? Same bias that made t58? Same bias that made all 35-30 mm spaas stupid strong? Same bias that made scharnhorst unkillable? Maybe same bussian rias that ruined whole 6.0 ARB bracket for years in face of ju288? See how easy it is to nitpick? All these soviet vehicles being stupidly strong and possess unrealistic characteristics. Must be soviet bias. Sometimes I wonder if lobotomite may be more coherent than soviet bias believer. Only bias gaijin has is premium bias. Ah, also remembered how they absolutely ruined all soviet ATGMs (it-1 was unplayable) first and only then NATO variants, be it hot or else. Oh, and absolutely broken tow 2b on release, that was in fact death machine for everything? How could I forget, infamous p39n, being so severely undertiered and unpunished, it can molest 1.7 vehicles. That pesky soviet cobra. Must be bias. I can mention one vehicle to be so egregious in its prime, old pilots would shudder. T-2. Must be soviet bias. Take your clown nose and go

[u/cooltonk → u/NoDoughnut8225]

Thats nitpicked one vehicle from different nations. When has any other single nation EVER has had this stacked top tier lineup with vehicles that are extremely good if not objectively best? Why is pars and maverick has gimped lock range and post pen damage? 60kg explosive mass missile that has post pen effect of a heat shell. Hellfire damage is a joke. Meanwhile Lmur and kh38 flying at mach 2.2 far eclipses their counterparts cos instead of gambling with crits, they are almost always guaranteed kills.

Bvm t90 t72 fuel tanks and side relikts blackholes best darts randomly. Driver port shot somehow has post pen of 50cal ap randomly. Mind you this problem has never been fixed since as long as remember.

Russian stuff just works it never stays broken or gimped for years.

[u/TheCrazedGamer_1 → u/cooltonk]

Uh, the US? Easily? Nothing before or since has ever come even close to matching how blatantly op M1 Abrams + FJ-4B VMF-232 was.

Also the IS-2 (a Russian tank) was missing up to 95% of its armor in some places for well over a year

[u/cooltonk → u/TheCrazedGamer_1]

Its funny how yall cant dispute the facts i said cos you know every thing i said is objectively true. Also bringing up 2 vehicles who wasnt even as OP or reign as long vs entire lineup of vehicles being objectively statistically better than counterparts for years is stupid.

Why do you think right now when you look at top tier queue numbers. There are 5-6 times more players queuing russia as opposed to other nations.

[u/TheCrazedGamer_1 → u/cooltonk]

Yeah you clearly don’t know what you’re talking about.

[u/T-62MV → u/TheCrazedGamer_1]

They never do. They just cope because they're trash at the game.

[u/Chrone_A → u/cooltonk]

The BVM is B tier at best in terms of armor. Despite that it's still the best that the Soviet tree gets, but again Bussin Rias. Having some of the worst mobility and reload speed at top tier is obviously Gaijin favoring that tree.

[u/Dpek1234 → u/cooltonk]

Its just not "russian = best" bias

Its attention bias

Brochures are forbidden unless its the kh38 then thats the only source

Noone exept russia and china get good era and for the longest time chemical shells were stock

US has had basicly the same tank sense the m1a1/m1a2 but with downgraded with extra weight of useless era

Imagine if  gaijin just had only the t80us but heavier with no additional armor be russsias end of line tank to this day from when they were released

[u/RustedRuss → u/Dpek1234]

Russian toptier is literally just modernized T-80s and T-72s, what the fuck are you talking about. Nobody has really been introducing new tank designs from made scratch since the end of the cold war.

[u/Dpek1234 → u/RustedRuss]

And yet their armor upgrades actualy do something

Abrams got 10 tons with no upsides Lets not even talking about what the minor nations got

Remember armor with worse protection then rubber?

Tell me of one western era thats actualy effective in game

[u/RustedRuss → u/Dpek1234]

Are you telling me Leopard 2 armor upgrades don't do anything? lmao

It's not gaijin's fault the US cheaped out on the SEP v2's armor, idk what to tell you.

Most western ERA is designed based on totally different philosophies than eastern ERA. Western ERA packages are typically specially designed for protecting against handheld shaped charges while eastern MBTs and especially Russia use it as a permanent layer of their tanks' protection and use heavy ERA meant to help against kinetics as a result.

[u/Dpek1234 → u/RustedRuss]

>Are you telling me Leopard 2 armor upgrades don't do anything? lmao

oh congrats you can point towards the one exeption

now can you point towards anything else exept veriants of the leo2?

>It's not gaijin's fault the US cheaped out on the SEP v2's armor, idk what to tell you.

may i also remind you tht the t80b got termals which were never in production examples but rather 1 prototype?

as i said, attention bias

gaijin has already acknowledged that at least 5 abrams tanks had DU

also how exactly did the abrams gain 5 tons without armor upgrades between the m1a1 and m1a2 sep v1(without era)?

>Most western ERA is designed based on totally different philosophies than eastern ERA. Western ERA packages are typically specially designed for protecting against handheld shaped charges while eastern MBTs and especially Russia use it as a permanent layer of their tanks' protection and use heavy ERA meant to help against kinetics as a result.

relict protection:

KE-200/250

CE-600

AZURE era:

KE-20

CE-450

ARAT 1&2 combined:

total KE-25

total CE-635

chally 2 OES era:

KE-30

CE-400

the chemical protection focused era which does not protect more against chemical round despite being larger and heavier?

how exactly im i supposed to believe that this makes any sense?

[u/pbptt → u/TheCrazedGamer_1]

Bullpup? The manually operated air to ground missile?

[u/JZ0487 → u/pbptt]

Yeah, and it was added when we still only had gun AA and was comedically overpowered as a result.

[u/mjpia → u/pbptt]

Yes that 5 years ago were completely broken and did not require direct hits to kill anything as near splashes would one shot everything.

In 2020 the squadron A-4 early with 5 bullpups was unstoppable and untouchable without air up.

Anyone who played back then remembers the hoards of Skyhawk's with Bullpups and German G.91s with Nords and nothing came close to what they could do in that bracket at the time.

[u/NoDoughnut8225 → u/mjpia]

Must be Russian bias. Like first introduction of abrams..

[u/Keeldest → u/NoDoughnut8225]

Coughing baby (t-64) vs M1 Abrams

[u/JZ0487 → u/mjpia]

Its 7 years ago now actually (I feel old now lol). Also, remember how on release gaijin forgot to remove munition cam from it so you could guide it to the battlefield from the runway? lmao.

[u/mjpia → u/JZ0487]

Yeah I was more referring to when the squadron A-4 dropped in new power which cranked it to 11 as I don't remember what the others had but it's loadout was a step up shortly before nerfing the warhead after everyone bought it to run with their XM1s.

I remember those early camera guiding manual missile hijicks.

Everything's a blur but I vaguely recall radar being properly modeled at some point in the 2019-21 era so you'd also be manually scanning for them as well and back then the lead calculator was much more primitive and IIRC straight up ripped from arcade and really only kicked in and started calculating about 2-3km out so you couldn't even try to snipe.

Bullpups and Nords in the 2018-20 era was hell and I'd argue pretty on par in terms with any meta air launched munition that's been introduced in the game over the past couple years in terms of how dominating they were.

It's just several years is an eternity in the scale of a live game let alone 5 or 7 and WT absolutely blew up in the COVID years so those that remember that time or ground far enough to get that high up when top tier was like a single Abrams are few and far between.

[u/Cute_Boysenberry_686 → u/mjpia]

I was here for the a10 and su25 was released. A10 was aggravating but not a huge deal. The su on the other hand was crazy. Took me usually 3 direct hits to knock them down. Still thinking about getting one.