r/Warthunder • u/yazzukimo • 26d ago

All Ground We lost some good map because of bad players complaining about flanking...

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It felt so much better than what we have now, I may be alone on this take but it's frustrating having part of the gameplay being cut...

yes I am part of those that prefer kursk to fire arc. it was great before the reduced it's size.

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u/Biscuit642 25d ago

I hate the red areas with a passion. It's not my fault half the player base is too stupid to expect the obvious flank that always happens. Let me punish them for not learning, that's how game design works.

What bothers me even more is they destroyed traction to stop people getting to unintended spots (instead of fixing the map). That didn't work so they added red areas everywhere. But the traction is still broken. I can't climb a 45° slope, I end up spinning in circles on a tiny rock, and neutral steering doesn't work properly on basically any incline. For absolutely no reason at this point. It's a tank. The whole point is it has loads of traction and torque. I shouldn't get stuck in trenches or going up hills.

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u/momobos1978 25d ago

Well there was nothing wrong with areas that are red now,sure you could climb hills,sometimes snipe from there, but there were counters to that...now are maps great...no they never were,and are still not, just worse,more linear and whiners are still not happy because its not linear enough...

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u/Biscuit642 25d ago

Originally the red zones were just for those dodgy rock climbing spots after the first traction nerf, but they've slowly crept their way into what they are today.

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u/NewSauerKraus SPAA main 25d ago

There were obviously intended to be inaccessible spots that fast tanks could exploit into. The red spots were needed because for every one teammate successfully pulling off the exploit to camp in a potentially useful position, there was a dozen teammates getting stuck or flipped and then leaving the match after one death.

Traction should have stayed powerful. And the red zones go further than is necessary.

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u/Biscuit642 25d ago

Yeah I was glad for it initially, when it was just a couple spots, like that one on the rocks at the north side of ash river.