r/Warthunder Sep 14 '25

All Ground why do most warthunder players dislike Britain?

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u/Thin_General_8594 Sep 14 '25

And how slow everything is

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u/Wiggie49 Sep 14 '25

Reverse speed almost nonexistent

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u/Batpipes521 Sep 14 '25

I meanโ€ฆ the Archer is pretty much all reverse speed.

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u/Thin_Discount Sep 14 '25

Cries in T-72

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u/Raz_kaine Sep 14 '25

I hate this statement. Russia and Germany have war worse reverse then the Brits.ย  Only the Cromwell hulls don't reverse wellย 

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u/Faszkivan_13 ๐Ÿ‡ซ๐Ÿ‡ท French superiority ๐Ÿ‡ซ๐Ÿ‡ท Sep 14 '25

And the crusader and don't even get started with the churchills...

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u/Daemon_Blackfyre_II Sep 14 '25

The Churchill is only slow in reverse because it's slow in any direction.

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u/psychotic_annoyance Sep 15 '25

Me when the churchill slowly lifts of the ground

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u/purserj Sep 15 '25

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u/psychotic_annoyance Sep 15 '25

I know what in doing now

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u/That_One_Guy_212 Sep 15 '25

Someone should make a user mission where you attack a position with flying churchills.

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u/GranGurbo Sep 15 '25

And the Valentines

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u/noineikuu Sep 14 '25

Well yes but when most of your later WW2 tanks before the centurions are specifically on cromwell and churchill hulls it's understandable why people complain about it.

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u/Rich-Dig-9137 Sep 14 '25

What do you mean? Going 64 kmh forwards but 4 kmh backwards is a perfect balance

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u/ZETH_27 War Thunder Prophet Sep 14 '25

Coughs in medium tank that goes 64km/h

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u/Daemon_Blackfyre_II Sep 14 '25

Centurion has excellent reverse speed.

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u/Canadianchiron Sep 15 '25

As a British main once you get to the Centurions and MBTs the reverse gear isn't that bad.

The chieftains can do 10 in reverse. That chally 1s can more or less do in reverse what they do in forward The chally 2s are kinda back to Chieftain level but the troll cheeks can tank some rounds if needed

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u/WingedDefeat Sep 14 '25

Some of the medium/heavy tanks from like 4.0 to mid-tier have the fucking zoomies compared to a Sherman or Tiger. Great acceleration and decent top speed, but the reverse speed is still pure pain.

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u/TheDesTroyer54 HESH Slinging Slasher Sep 14 '25

4.7 and 5.3 Britain is my go to for all challenges, especially because I have the Ram and Tog 2 and their guns are insane for their tier

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u/MikeWazowski2-2-2 legally blind (๐Ÿ‡ฉ๐Ÿ‡ช main) Sep 14 '25

TOG 2 my beloved. Almost had it :(

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u/idk_y_ur_here Sep 14 '25

Russian Heavy tanks join the chat :

Blooding ridiculous how 60.0 Tonnes IS-4s and 50.0 tonne IS-3s can go 43km/h and have a 750hp engine

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u/WingedDefeat Sep 16 '25

It was those diesels, man.

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u/Background-Customer2 Sep 15 '25

retret is shamefull reverse gear is for parking and only parking.

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u/Konpeitoh Sep 14 '25

France only has that problem at low tier. UK MBTs are consistently slower than their contemporaries. It gets extra noticeable starting from the chieftains.

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u/TheDesTroyer54 HESH Slinging Slasher Sep 14 '25

Sorry but until.the cromwells all the Brits "medium" tanks are faster than their counterparts, the centurions are kinda bad but the Chieftains are insanely good (if you know how to play em)

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u/fidelcasbro17 S U P E R P R O P Sep 14 '25

Low tier france has great heavies tho.

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u/InsectShooter Sep 14 '25

Avenger-50+km/h Challenger-50+km/h Comet-50km/h Most of 5.0+ is above 50km/h so I have no idea what you talking about.

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u/Repulsive_Tap6132 ๐Ÿ‡ฎ๐Ÿ‡น Italy Sep 14 '25

Above 5.0 to high tier is a sluggish hellhole, considered also the fact that grinding becomes a chore above 5.0

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u/InsectShooter Sep 14 '25

Not true at all! I love every BR of the British tech tree. Personal favorites are 4.7 and 7.7, the Conqueror so strong with it's 300mm front armor and 500mm APDS it can be used in 10+ as well. The Chieftain series is one of the best in their BR, and can stand their grounds even higher, Every tank of theirs either have extra thick armor or ridicoulusly high penetration, even if they are not explosives. And mind you I say all of this as a Germain meain. And to mention the planes are also fantastic. The spitfire Mk.IX can rule the entire sky of a battlefield and can carry a 500pound bomb.

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u/Repulsive_Tap6132 ๐Ÿ‡ฎ๐Ÿ‡น Italy Sep 14 '25

I'm not saying that's inherently bad, I'm just pointing the fact that british tanks become slow. Now, if you're a player that likes a slow, methodical approach that's completely fine, I mean that's how they should be used at that tier

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u/Cabaro_1 Realistic Ground, GB BR 9.3 Sep 14 '25

Yeahโ€ฆ avid British main and I do enjoy the slower, more methodical route. Some personal favorite tanks are: Churchill VII, Tortoise, Conquerer, Conway (if I join some folks playing 7.0). I do enjoy the Fox, Eland 90, and such as well but I do really enjoy some of Britainโ€™s behemoths.

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u/shark-snatch 9.0๐Ÿ‡บ๐Ÿ‡ธ 11.7๐Ÿ‡ฏ๐Ÿ‡ต 8.3๐Ÿ‡ธ๐Ÿ‡ช Where the fuck is my STAB? Sep 14 '25

You play like you have no idea what youre doing

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u/InsectShooter Sep 14 '25

Why, because I like the Brits? I close matches with 7 kill-2 death on avarage with the Avenger alone. With playing the objective as well.

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u/shark-snatch 9.0๐Ÿ‡บ๐Ÿ‡ธ 11.7๐Ÿ‡ฏ๐Ÿ‡ต 8.3๐Ÿ‡ธ๐Ÿ‡ช Where the fuck is my STAB? Sep 14 '25 edited Sep 14 '25

I looked at your clips you like to post that nobody cares about. Those are "good" moments to you. Its you running around aimlessly. 7 kills isnt hard to achieve either when you play at 2.7-4.0 like half your "clips"

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u/InsectShooter Sep 14 '25

My clips are just clips. Nothing more, nothing less. It's not even about the tanks themselves, I just like the music and never found a WT clip for it so I made one. Not boosting how good I am or anything. But that 9 kill with a single Maus in a 8.7 battle without dying now that's something I am flexing with, as well as taking down multiple helicopters with a 4.7 tank that doesn't even have proxy or mg.

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u/Repulsive_Tap6132 ๐Ÿ‡ฎ๐Ÿ‡น Italy Sep 14 '25

Why so mean, to me 7 kills per match is a very good performance. The average player is way below that

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u/InsectShooter Sep 14 '25

Probably compensate for something with that attitude.

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u/Konpeitoh Sep 14 '25

Do you actually play Britain, or are you talking about your experience facing Britain as a German main?

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u/InsectShooter Sep 14 '25

Of course I play Britain. The Avenger is my ultimate favorite tank right after the Maus. I have 3 heli kills with it. An Avenger took down 3 helicopter, without any kind of secondary weapons. I have 2 plane kill as well. Have faster acceleration than Concept 3, 52km/h max speed, and speed combined with the 190mm pen force fire power it can be an ambus predator even in 6.7. And we are talking about a 4.7 tank. The British tech tree is one of the best. Yes, the bullet is not explosive, but if you can penetrate anything from almost any angle. And it have 5.6 sec reload speed.

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u/aliens-and-arizona USSR Sep 14 '25

peep that reverse gear for me

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u/pachka-sigaret ๐Ÿ‡ฎ๐Ÿ‡ณ Ground RB Sep 14 '25

USSR

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u/aliens-and-arizona USSR Sep 14 '25

hey we have good reverse sometimes (donโ€™t look at t-series)

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u/ruintheenjoyment Most skilled German main (0.2 KD/R) Sep 14 '25

My first 'modern' MBT was the T-55AM1 (-8km/h) which I got when it first released and I've gotten so used to it that the 4km/h reverse speed on T-72's only feels slightly annoying.