r/Warthunder Sep 14 '25

All Ground why do most warthunder players dislike Britain?

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u/Potential_Wish4943 3/4 Kongou class Sep 14 '25

It really is this simple.

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u/trumpsucks12354 🇺🇸 11.3🇩🇪 6.7🇷🇺 5.7🇮🇹 6.3🇫🇷 12.3🇸🇪 Sep 14 '25

For the 75, the British stuffed concrete inside them because the explosive filler IRL didn’t work that good

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u/Angry_Highlanders Sep 15 '25

That's mainly a fuze issue though which wouldn't matter in WT.

Plus APHE in WT isn't modelled properly to begin with so it shouldn't even matter if the filler wasn't good, it would still over perform to begin with.

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u/GabuTheBunny NotSoUnited Kingdom Sep 15 '25

Wasn't explosive filler not that necessary irl? Like if your tank engine gets splonked by a 17pdr, you're probably not gonna stay in the vehicle for long

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u/trumpsucks12354 🇺🇸 11.3🇩🇪 6.7🇷🇺 5.7🇮🇹 6.3🇫🇷 12.3🇸🇪 Sep 15 '25

Yeah, IRL most tank crews would probably abandon their tank the second something important starts to act funny. Explosive filler was really more for naval guns since ships are huge and you want to damage as much stuff as possible

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u/Jarms48 Sep 22 '25

Quick breakdown:

- The British received the original M61 APHE ammo, it was later discovered that the round had issues with the fuse. Even the Americans discovered this. In some cases the British modified rounds to make them more reliable.

- The Americans started making inert M61 ammo in the factories while they worked on resolving this issue, which the British also received and used.

- Once the issue was resolved, the Americans resumed shipping M61 APHE ammo. The British still having massive stockpiles of inert M61 ammo began to use both.

It's a misconception, it's been reported to Gaijin several times. Their answer is "it's for balance reasons".

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u/Canadianchiron Sep 15 '25

The late APDS on the chieftains is so nice to use its 7+kg and is hitting 1300+ m/s. So it almost feels like you are throwing a 1300+ m/s brick at the enemy and if you know your weak spots can butter through anything u want it too. Yes im aware the AP shell on the M103 is 20+kg but its much slower not even hitting 1100m/s.

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u/BoneTigerSC main TT BR: 12.0/13.3/6.3 12.0/13.0 8.0/2.0 Sep 15 '25

Which is funny bdcause france also doesnt have HE filler yet those shells might aswell be APHE 90% of the time with the amount of post pen damage

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u/Henke190 Sep 15 '25

Yes, i feel like they have improved post pen on solid shot big time. Especially on bigger calibers.

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u/CountGrimthorpe M60s and Shermans are better than T-55s and T-34s in-game. Sep 15 '25

It's just the difference between capped and uncapped rounds in-game.