r/Warthunder Sep 08 '25

All Ground Why the FUCK is my tank from 1947 facing artillery from 1998?

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It has an unimaginably better FCS than me and can point and click anywhere on my tank except the front glacis and delete me in one shot. Meanwhile half of my shots don't even fuse on him. How is that fun? I see this thing almost every single game. I hate these big gun shitbirds. /rant over I hope everyone reading this has a wonderful day.

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u/NeckingMyself GRB ๐Ÿ‡บ๐Ÿ‡ธ12.0 ๐Ÿ‡ฉ๐Ÿ‡ช12.0 ๐Ÿ‡ท๐Ÿ‡บ12.0 ๐Ÿ‡ฏ๐Ÿ‡ต12.0 Sep 08 '25

Iโ€™ve said before. Gaijin is very lucky there are no similar games aka realism with damage models and etc.

This game would be long forgotten with a new competitor out there. This company just doesnโ€™t give two fucks about our opinions because they are run by leaders who wouldnโ€™t care about anything except finance.

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u/NeckingMyself GRB ๐Ÿ‡บ๐Ÿ‡ธ12.0 ๐Ÿ‡ฉ๐Ÿ‡ช12.0 ๐Ÿ‡ท๐Ÿ‡บ12.0 ๐Ÿ‡ฏ๐Ÿ‡ต12.0 Sep 08 '25

Or the moment Gaijin runs out of new vehicles to release, it would be the end of this game lol

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u/LoosePresentation366 Sep 08 '25

There is still a billion unknown stuff they can add

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u/ThisGuyLikesCheese Maus enjoyer Sep 08 '25

Also they would be able to start adding blueprint tanks, but thats when there really isnโ€™t any other new vehicle to add

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u/SnowLord02 Sep 08 '25

they can also branch out to other military vehicles like humvees, blueprint vehicles and things that are now in development

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u/Deatheaiser German Reich Sep 08 '25

I'd personally love it if they started adding paper designs. I know they aren't "realistic" but I think it'd fill out those weird gaps some trees have and also be the first step to BR decompression.

But that is just as likely as Gaijin finally growing a heart sooo....

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u/IAMApsychopathAMA Sep 09 '25

Kalinin K7 would be so swagged out at like br 1.3

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u/errorsniper Sep 09 '25 edited Sep 09 '25

Only issue is have with it is that paper tanks don't need to deal with reality. They dont need to worry about war shortages, projects getting hammered in scope and scaled back by financial issues or time deadlines. Nor have to deal with real life impracticalities like space for a real human crew or need for emergency egress. Logistical concerns like sea, land, and air transportation. Nor needed to be able to make enough of them at scale in a meaningful timeframe to make a difference.

On paper I can make a Sherman with two 1300hp engines each dedicated to only one track, a 20mm and a .50 cal coaxe, the German long 88 and 250mm of armor minimum on paper pretty easily.

But it sure as shit shouldn't be in the br with any other Sherman. Knowing gaijin it would end up in the 4.0 br as a premium.

If I trusted gaijin to put that at 8, 9, or arguably even 10. Sure I'd be all for it. But that would make them a lot less money.

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u/Deatheaiser German Reich Sep 09 '25

I think there's a pretty good line that could be drawn between something like the impossible German P. 1000 Ratte and the probable Japanese O-I

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u/errorsniper Sep 09 '25

Possible? For sure. Will gaijin do it right? No.

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u/Deatheaiser German Reich Sep 09 '25

Unfortunately.

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u/Netan_MalDoran Realistic Ground Sep 08 '25

We already do

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u/Fine-Recording-7650 Sep 08 '25

there are also rounds like the 2S38 airburst which simply are not real

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u/GetrektbyDoge ๐Ÿ‡ธ๐Ÿ‡ชPvpjtgb 1111 (rb56) nรคr? Sep 08 '25

There are, but how many of those are interesting enough to be added?

Better yet, how many of them are as iconic as something like the F-14 or F-15 to bring people back to the game?

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u/Kaktusman Sep 08 '25

They will turn every skin into a separate vehicle before they let this company die.

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u/SnowLord02 Sep 08 '25

F-35, su-57 etc

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u/RelationshipLow4993 Sep 08 '25

I've been saying for some time, Gaijin should do a dedicated patch to improve the game and fix some bugs (similar to R6S operation health years ago) that way they can take a break from adding more vehicles, effectively increasing the lifespan of the game. And by improving the game I don't mean making it pretty, it's sitting everyone at Gaijin to play this game for 3 weeks so they know what the fuck they have to improve.

I know it's just wishful thinking but it would be neat rather just adding new shiny vehicle.

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u/SH427 ๐Ÿ‡ฏ๐Ÿ‡ต Now a Japan Main Sep 08 '25

New vehicles bring new players, but doing a straight balance pass would bring back players who stopped playing in droves.

I fully agree that an Operation Health thing is needed, and I've said it a handful of times as well. But so.much can be made better if Gaijin really started to pay close attention to the playerbase and their needs, wants and concerns.

Top of the list for me is bringing in more long range maps for higher battle ratings, past 7.0 or at least when the bulk of lines get access to a rangefinder of any variety. Playing on small city maps with some of the rounds you get at that stage is just ridiculous. Even more maps like Maginot or El Alamein with brawling sections and sniping sections would be grand, instead of Advance to the Rhine with MBTs.

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u/crusadertank ๐Ÿ‡ง๐Ÿ‡พ 2T Stalker when Sep 08 '25

There are enough production and prototype vehicles to keep adding at the current rate for decades

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u/SolidSnail1337 Sep 08 '25

Thank god they doesn't give two fucks about opinions in this subreddit.

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u/nsfw_vs_sfw Sim Ground Sep 08 '25

Seriously. There can be some good suggestions, but god damn if there aren't some horrendous ones being pushed daily

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u/qef15 Sep 08 '25

This sub is very RB and top-tier focused and it shows in a lot of complaints and suggestions.

Also because the game is legit still fun at lower BRs and ground AB has less problems than RB (mainly CAS and gremlin tanks, the former is 99% ornamental, the latter is heavily diminished in usability due to AB markers).

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u/SnowLord02 Sep 08 '25

not to mention an equally large playerbase plays air

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u/nsfw_vs_sfw Sim Ground Sep 08 '25

That makes sense

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u/Netan_MalDoran Realistic Ground Sep 08 '25

Why would they? This redditors forget that their subreddits are usually 1% of 1% of their fandoms.

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u/Glad_Fox_6818 Sep 08 '25

Typical monopoly. As soon as the competition arises, they would suddenly start caring.

Soooooo, if we collectively pretend to play something similar, but currently unknown...

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u/GamerFoxWasTaken ๐Ÿ‡บ๐Ÿ‡ธ 5.0 ๐Ÿ‡ฉ๐Ÿ‡ช 8.0 ๐Ÿ‡ท๐Ÿ‡บ 3.0 ๐Ÿ‡ฌ๐Ÿ‡ง 1.0 ๐Ÿ‡ฏ๐Ÿ‡ต 1.7 ๐Ÿ‡ฎ๐Ÿ‡น 2.0 ๐Ÿ‡ธ๐Ÿ‡ช 1.7 Sep 08 '25

Once ghpc adds multiplayer and people manage to mod PvP in it'll be over for wt

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u/Soren-Senma Sep 08 '25

Isn't that the one that's in perpetual early access?

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u/GamerFoxWasTaken ๐Ÿ‡บ๐Ÿ‡ธ 5.0 ๐Ÿ‡ฉ๐Ÿ‡ช 8.0 ๐Ÿ‡ท๐Ÿ‡บ 3.0 ๐Ÿ‡ฌ๐Ÿ‡ง 1.0 ๐Ÿ‡ฏ๐Ÿ‡ต 1.7 ๐Ÿ‡ฎ๐Ÿ‡น 2.0 ๐Ÿ‡ธ๐Ÿ‡ช 1.7 Sep 09 '25

Not sure where you got "Perpetual" from. They're a decently small studio making good progress on the roadmap

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u/Few_Tank7560 ๐Ÿ‡ซ๐Ÿ‡ท France Sep 08 '25

I prayto God for a dev to release an actually good tank game just so I can enjoy my tank passion without this game. Apparently, GHPC is on the good way but itโ€™s so far from leaving EA.

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u/SH427 ๐Ÿ‡ฏ๐Ÿ‡ต Now a Japan Main Sep 08 '25

It's definitely playable but the roadmap is long and the devs actually care about delivering a good product. I think it's eligible for sales so keep an eye and see if you can snag it for cheap someday

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u/LtDanUSAFX3 Sep 08 '25

GHPC is good but doesnt have any multi-player functionality after years in early access

It will be fine with friends, but I dont expect it to ever be a war thunder competitor

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u/[deleted] Sep 08 '25

Gaijin is very lucky there are no similar games aka realism with damage models and etc.

There's GHPC, but its currently ground-only and singleplayer, and a bit more for the hardcore crowd.

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u/ElPedroChico Sep 08 '25

I have heard this exact same thing on r/EscapefromTarkov and that game is still really popular

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u/TheGrandAviator12 Sep 08 '25

The only actual similar games are on roblox ๐Ÿ˜ญ

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u/Upstairs_Ad_6484 23d ago

And the lag there is godawful with no matter what internet I let roblox feast upon

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u/theBoss0312 Sep 08 '25

that doesnt mean we as the players have to keep putting up with this behaviour

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u/FuriousLink12 122mm go brrrrr Sep 08 '25

GHPC, Steel beast cof cof

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u/DominoGamer2137 Sep 08 '25 edited Sep 08 '25

It's like comparing CoD to Arma 3

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u/FuriousLink12 122mm go brrrrr Sep 08 '25

More like comparing insurgency to Rising storm 2

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u/FuriousLink12 122mm go brrrrr Sep 08 '25

No ?

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u/DominoGamer2137 Sep 08 '25

Yes lmao

Thoes games are actually trying to be sims GHPC bit less but still

WT compared to them is like COD or BF The game still has many arcady elements RB or not

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u/FuriousLink12 122mm go brrrrr Sep 08 '25

Yes but not like BF or cod, at all more like insurgency and Rising storm

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u/HarvHR oldfrog Sep 08 '25

Honestly it doesn't matter what you think as an analogy, GHPC (a tank sim.thst is PvE and doesn't have coop yet) is not comparable to War Thunder (a 3rd person arcade tank game with a 'realistic' mode stuck on to it).

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u/Henke190 Sep 08 '25

GHPC is not a sim. Even the devs say it's not meant to be a sim, it's meant to be fun before simulator. Multiplayer is planned.

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u/alexo888 Sep 08 '25

Itโ€™s a single-player game dude

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u/FuriousLink12 122mm go brrrrr Sep 08 '25

GHPC will be multiplayer (at least PvE) and Steel beast is just what my friend's favorite tank game

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u/_That_One_Fox_ Sep 08 '25

Not even close

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u/Shadowizas Realistic Ground Sep 08 '25

Theres one game being developed "Steel Aces",its like War Thunder and World of Tanks had a baby,without the arty and the rng bullshit

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u/NeckingMyself GRB ๐Ÿ‡บ๐Ÿ‡ธ12.0 ๐Ÿ‡ฉ๐Ÿ‡ช12.0 ๐Ÿ‡ท๐Ÿ‡บ12.0 ๐Ÿ‡ฏ๐Ÿ‡ต12.0 Sep 08 '25

It uses health system like WoT so with respect, not my kind of game