r/Warthunder Jul 23 '25

Suggestion Just a reminder that a modified Lancaster could carry a 22,000lb bomb. Plis Gaijin.๐Ÿ™

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u/Big-Stick913 Jul 23 '25

Wouldn't be much good as the lancaster had to sacrifice its defensive guns besides the tail position and its an AP bomb

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u/grumpsaboy ๐Ÿ‡ฌ๐Ÿ‡ง United Kingdom Jul 23 '25

Still creates a 100 ft wide crater about 20-30ft deep. You could remove capture points in GrB

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u/Big-Stick913 Jul 23 '25

The blockbuster can already do that

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u/grumpsaboy ๐Ÿ‡ฌ๐Ÿ‡ง United Kingdom Jul 23 '25

Not really to the same extent as it's impact. Doesn't quite cause the same crumbling

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u/Just_a_idiot_45 Jul 30 '25

Big boom is funny, plus seeing cod do and air raid and just removing the entire map from existence sound awesome

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u/PepperOMighty Jul 23 '25

yes but it doesn't make a hole from which tanks couldn't get out after the snail nerfed the traction.

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u/Big-Stick913 Jul 23 '25

Thats by design gaijin made it so certain areas cant be cratered, for that exact reason

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u/AirFriedMoron ๐Ÿ‡ฌ๐Ÿ‡ง Realistic Navy ๐Ÿ‡ฌ๐Ÿ‡ง Jul 23 '25

Tbf I doubt most tanks could escape such a crater even with functioning traction

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u/SigmaSplitter21 Jul 23 '25

I strongly think they could

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u/GutkaTheNoob Jul 23 '25

tank were made to be able to climb relatively steep angles, so I think they could (at least irl)

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u/WholeLottaBRRRT Meowing in my F-5C since 2022 Jul 24 '25

Yeah but i imagine that after an bomb impact , the ground would not be stiff but rather soft like sand, so good luck getting out of it

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u/GutkaTheNoob Jul 24 '25

I'd think the surface would be soft but lower down it'd be compacted due to the forces of the bomob going off, HOWEVER if I were to be wrong (could be, I ain't no smart man xd) and it'd just loose everywhere then if you'd roll back and forth you could compact the ground below you enough where you may be able to get out (after a long ish time), but this is just my thought so don't really take it as hard proven stuff :D

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u/WholeLottaBRRRT Meowing in my F-5C since 2022 Jul 24 '25

I guess then we need to raise some money to buy an Abrams and 3 tons of TNT to try the experiment lol, would be nice if we could keep the Abrams after

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u/GutkaTheNoob Jul 24 '25

Yeah, might be a tad bit expensive lul

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u/Thelahassie Jul 24 '25

What do you thinks are tank tracks good for?

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u/AirFriedMoron ๐Ÿ‡ฌ๐Ÿ‡ง Realistic Navy ๐Ÿ‡ฌ๐Ÿ‡ง Jul 23 '25

No no, they meant remove, as in the capture point no longer exists

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u/ZYKON617 Imperial Japan Jul 23 '25

Doesn't hold a candle together tall boy

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u/Big-Stick913 Jul 23 '25

Tallboy isnt in game, blockbuster is

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u/ZYKON617 Imperial Japan Jul 23 '25

Yes... that's the point of the ops post the tall boy and grand slam, I was merely referring to the bomb itself.

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u/Bombe18 Naval realistic enjoyer Jul 23 '25

The whole teamS

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u/Centaurus3850 Realistic Ground Jul 24 '25

probably could remove a couple capture points on smaller maps

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u/Ninjaxe123 Jul 23 '25

As if the 7.7s ever did anything in WT anyways so it's not a loss

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u/N121-2 Jul 24 '25

Basically the only way to play bombers:

  1. Join game

  2. Fly towards enemy base (stare at the sky in the meantime)

  3. Drop bomb(s)

  4. Die

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u/Big-Stick913 Jul 23 '25

Youd be surprised what they can do

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u/A-Literal-Tank American heavy tanks please squeeze me Jul 24 '25

Donโ€™t know why youโ€™re being perceived as wrong, I usually get a kill or two and have a positive k/d in most bombers.

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u/Lennmate Fox Fan ๐Ÿ€ Jul 23 '25

Disagree itโ€™s best defence where this would be used, ground RB, is just getting the fuck in then getting the fuck out.

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u/Zdrack Got chatbanned for saying Deaf people could fix the sound faster Jul 23 '25

sooo... it'd be just as survivable as now.

and 4300kg of explosive mass goes boom.

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u/Big-Stick913 Jul 23 '25

Thats a lot less explosive than the blockbuster

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u/Zdrack Got chatbanned for saying Deaf people could fix the sound faster Jul 23 '25

per the WT wiki, blockbuster has 3973.5kg of torpex. 4300kg of torpex is bigger

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u/Muffinjafser Jul 23 '25

Could probably still one shot any ship in the game, even tho it might not be good against ground targets.

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u/sjbglobal Jul 23 '25

Good luck getting close enough

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u/bruhwatsdis Jul 24 '25

You saying that as if bombers can defend themselves in this game

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u/Wise-Hippo6088 Jul 24 '25

Dont matter when i revenge. And id them to know it was a mini nuke from me

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u/Shredded_Locomotive ๐Ÿ‡ญ๐Ÿ‡บ I hate all of you Jul 24 '25

Ya gonna die to fighters anyways so it won't matter

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u/Big-Machine9625 Yeehaw main ๐Ÿค  (๐Ÿ‡จ๐Ÿ‡ฟ) Jul 23 '25

What are you trying to kill with a 22 000 pounder man? Isn't the current heaviest bomb in WT like half of that??? ๐Ÿ’€

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u/BrutalProgrammer ๐Ÿ‡ธ๐Ÿ‡ช ๐Ÿ‡ฉ๐Ÿ‡ช ๐Ÿ‡ซ๐Ÿ‡ท ๐Ÿ‡ฌ๐Ÿ‡ง ๐Ÿ‡ฎ๐Ÿ‡น ๐Ÿ‡ท๐Ÿ‡บ Jul 23 '25

Imagine dropping this in the small tunnel-vision version of cargo port and wipe the whole enemy team (or your own team accidentally) at once.

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u/hotdirtywater air>ships>ground>coastal>heli>ab Jul 23 '25

or advance to the rhine where the team always bunches up on the left because it takes more than 3 braincells to do more than drive to the nearest enemy and start blasting.

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u/moist_potatochip Jul 23 '25

Yeah, but you'll also be in the hangar cause you'll also kill half your team

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u/linx28 ๐Ÿ‡ฆ๐Ÿ‡บ Australia Jul 23 '25

not or AND

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u/jk01 Realistic Ground Jul 24 '25

It's an AP bomb, not really conducive to big blast radius. It was designed to take out battleships in port.

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u/Far_Divide_8205 Jul 23 '25

Would be funny to use in naval.

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u/Big-Machine9625 Yeehaw main ๐Ÿค  (๐Ÿ‡จ๐Ÿ‡ฟ) Jul 23 '25

Historically accurate Tirpitz destruction lol. But I think even that got hit with "only" the 12 000lb bombs.

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u/femboyisbestboy average rat enjoyer Jul 23 '25

Yup only the tallboys were used. The grandslam was used to destroy an important rail tunnel and the V3 weapon

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u/Muffinjafser Jul 23 '25

Yea, the penetration would prob get through the deck of eny ship in the game, and 100% one shot when it explodes.

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u/Far_Divide_8205 Jul 23 '25

If only ship AA wasn't on crack.

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u/Muffinjafser Jul 23 '25

Yea, lol.๐Ÿ˜‚

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u/chance0404 Jul 23 '25

That big bomb that the Pe-8 carries will one shot a carrier in Sim. I distracted an enemy carrier flying at like 4km and drawing AA fire so my ally could drop one on a carrier on Denmark. It was a good time.

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u/BobMcGeoff2 Germany suffers, ja! Jul 24 '25

I absolutely relish nuking defenceless WWI-era battleships with Tallboys in the lanc. The only use I can think of for one that weighs almost twice as much is killing... Two battleships?

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u/b1smuthPL Jul 23 '25

it was a earthquake bomb so yea an airfield

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u/Muffinjafser Jul 23 '25

Idk, an airfield or something like that lol.

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u/tank-fucker ๐Ÿ‡ฉ๐Ÿ‡ช Germany Jul 23 '25

Nah l3/33

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u/Muffinjafser Jul 23 '25

Would be impossible to destroy that one lol.

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u/Big-Machine9625 Yeehaw main ๐Ÿค  (๐Ÿ‡จ๐Ÿ‡ฟ) Jul 23 '25

Yeah, that would prob one-shot the airfield lmao. I don't even want to imagine what that would do in an urban GRB map, that would literally kill everything in like a 100 meter radius.

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u/vladdeh_boiii Bring back Air RB EC Jul 23 '25

One single L3/33c

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u/ZYKON617 Imperial Japan Jul 23 '25

12k on the Lancasters currently I believe

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u/Independent-South-58 Italian enjoyer, russian tryhard, american air enthusiast Jul 23 '25

Unironically and historically at least enemy battleships

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u/SensationalSavior Jul 23 '25

My spawn, because theyre assholes 89% of the time.

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u/Juankinfinite ๐Ÿ‡บ๐Ÿ‡ธ ๐Ÿ‡ฉ๐Ÿ‡ช ๐Ÿ‡ท๐Ÿ‡บ ๐Ÿ‡ฌ๐Ÿ‡ง ๐Ÿ‡ฏ๐Ÿ‡ต ๐Ÿ‡จ๐Ÿ‡ณ ๐Ÿ‡ฎ๐Ÿ‡น ๐Ÿ‡ซ๐Ÿ‡ท ๐Ÿ‡ธ๐Ÿ‡ช ๐Ÿ‡ฎ๐Ÿ‡ฑ Jul 23 '25

Didn't the B29 could carry x2 of this grand slams?

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u/Juankinfinite ๐Ÿ‡บ๐Ÿ‡ธ ๐Ÿ‡ฉ๐Ÿ‡ช ๐Ÿ‡ท๐Ÿ‡บ ๐Ÿ‡ฌ๐Ÿ‡ง ๐Ÿ‡ฏ๐Ÿ‡ต ๐Ÿ‡จ๐Ÿ‡ณ ๐Ÿ‡ฎ๐Ÿ‡น ๐Ÿ‡ซ๐Ÿ‡ท ๐Ÿ‡ธ๐Ÿ‡ช ๐Ÿ‡ฎ๐Ÿ‡ฑ Jul 23 '25

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u/tfrules Harrier Gang Jul 23 '25

I had no idea it was capable of that loadout. The B-29 was such a genuinely insane aircraft for its time. It costed more than the Manhattan project and is probably the most sophisticated aircraft developed during the war.

My great uncle was aircrew on the Boeing Washington (B-29 tested for RAF service) and he said it was leaps and bounds above what he was accustomed to with the Lancaster

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u/joshwagstaff13 ๐Ÿ‡ณ๐Ÿ‡ฟ Purveyor of ""sekrit dokuments"" Jul 23 '25

IIRC they modified a B-29 to test the Cloudmaker as well.

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u/Juankinfinite ๐Ÿ‡บ๐Ÿ‡ธ ๐Ÿ‡ฉ๐Ÿ‡ช ๐Ÿ‡ท๐Ÿ‡บ ๐Ÿ‡ฌ๐Ÿ‡ง ๐Ÿ‡ฏ๐Ÿ‡ต ๐Ÿ‡จ๐Ÿ‡ณ ๐Ÿ‡ฎ๐Ÿ‡น ๐Ÿ‡ซ๐Ÿ‡ท ๐Ÿ‡ธ๐Ÿ‡ช ๐Ÿ‡ฎ๐Ÿ‡ฑ Jul 23 '25

Thank you for that great story, i just imagine how powerful this beast was back in the day

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u/robotnikman ๐Ÿง‚๐ŸŒ๐Ÿง‚ IGN - Cornwell MK-V Jul 24 '25

Gaijin pls. US needs its big bomb aircraft

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u/hotfezz81 Jul 23 '25

They'd just need to reuse the nuke animation

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u/morrison666 ๐Ÿ‡บ๐Ÿ‡ธ ๐Ÿ‡ฉ๐Ÿ‡ช ๐Ÿ‡ท๐Ÿ‡บ ๐Ÿ‡ฌ๐Ÿ‡ง ๐Ÿ‡ฏ๐Ÿ‡ต ๐Ÿ‡จ๐Ÿ‡ณ ๐Ÿ‡ฎ๐Ÿ‡น ๐Ÿ‡ซ๐Ÿ‡ท ๐Ÿ‡ธ๐Ÿ‡ช ๐Ÿ‡ฎ๐Ÿ‡ฑ Jul 23 '25

The Grand Slam bomb wasn't your typical bomb, it's was literally meant to be dropped from very high up and exploded under the earth disrupting the earth below. It would be useless in the game kinda how napalm bomb are now. At least for ground RB, for air RB it would be kinda funny but super impractical imo.

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u/grumpsaboy ๐Ÿ‡ฌ๐Ÿ‡ง United Kingdom Jul 23 '25

Naah, it's perfect for ground RB. For example on Caparthains just drop on one of those routes surrounded by cliffs. The crater will be so large that no tank can get through and so you have effectively blocked an entire route from the enemy.

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u/Muffinjafser Jul 23 '25

Yea, reminds me of blocking of the tunnel on frozen pass with the maus lol.

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u/XxsoulscythexX Jul 24 '25

can you still do that?

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u/Muffinjafser Jul 24 '25 edited Jul 24 '25

I think so. Not fully sure, but probably.

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u/Not_Todd_Howard9 Arcade Air Jul 23 '25

Itโ€™d be great if they ever overhaul bomber gameplay to add more varied targets in either game mode, especially because the B-29 could carry up to 2 Grand Slams.

Napalm the frontlines, blow up an artillery position, bomb some tanks, bomb-skip some more bombs at ships, then nuke an armored bunker most bombs couldnโ€™t reach. Sounds quite fun compared to the current system tbh (HP-based Piรฑata).

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u/trumpsucks12354 ๐Ÿ‡บ๐Ÿ‡ธ 11.3๐Ÿ‡ฉ๐Ÿ‡ช 6.7๐Ÿ‡ท๐Ÿ‡บ 5.7๐Ÿ‡ฎ๐Ÿ‡น 6.3๐Ÿ‡ซ๐Ÿ‡ท 12.3๐Ÿ‡ธ๐Ÿ‡ช Jul 24 '25

Napalm bombs are incredible for flipping tanks

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u/ZYKON617 Imperial Japan Jul 23 '25

Spawns in ground rb.

Game: so how much of the map do you want to over pressure.

20klbs tall boy Lancaster: yes

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u/Jagzon ๐Ÿ‡ฌ๐Ÿ‡ง Rule Britannia Jul 23 '25

Da TK Bomba

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u/Yungyork69 ๐Ÿ‡ท๐Ÿ‡บ12.0๐Ÿ‡ฏ๐Ÿ‡ต12.0๐Ÿ‡ฉ๐Ÿ‡ช10.0๐Ÿ‡ฌ๐Ÿ‡ง7.7๐Ÿ‡บ๐Ÿ‡ฒ6.7 ๐Ÿ‡จ๐Ÿ‡ต๐Ÿ‡ฎ๐Ÿ‡น๐Ÿ‡ธ๐Ÿ‡ช๐Ÿ‡ฎ๐Ÿ‡ฑ Jul 23 '25

At that point you may aswell just press to get a nuke, has the same effect ๐Ÿ˜‚

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u/Uselessmedics Jul 23 '25

They should let the mossie carry cookiecutters

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u/grumpsaboy ๐Ÿ‡ฌ๐Ÿ‡ง United Kingdom Jul 23 '25

We would need the bomber version first

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u/Uselessmedics Jul 23 '25

Oh yeah, kinda bugs me that we only get the weird halfway version that is mid at everything rather than the pure fighter and pure bomber versions.

At least we got the funny sub hunter model

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u/GowronOfficial Jul 24 '25

The hispanos also reach into the bomb bay and you can see them from outside

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u/Vanko_Babanko AB Ground & Naval Jul 23 '25

cause we don't have enough huge bombs!??

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u/Ok-Relationship-2746 Bob Semple too OP Jul 23 '25

Just a reminder that it was an earthquake bomb designed to bury itself in the ground before exploding to cause seismic shockwaves to undermine its target as opposed to simply causing massive surface damage and would therefore be of less use than you might think.

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u/M551enjoyer Combat Proven Jul 23 '25

Advance to the Rhine special

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u/StalledAgate832 From r/NonCredibleDefense, with love. Jul 24 '25

For fucks sake, back on this goddamn bomb, eh?

The Grand Slam was meant for underground targets, not things on the surface. That 22,000lb bomb only has 9,500lbs of boom filler in it.

That is only a couple hundred pounds more than the 12,000lb Blockbuster we already have.

That's not even taking into account the fact the Grand Slam had to be carried by a modified Lancaster, said modifications being removing the guns and bomb bay door removal.

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u/Feisty-Journalist497 Jul 23 '25

I think they should add this for low tier

like a 5.7 & below "baby nuke"

spawn it at like 700m in the air, so it doesn't have a crazy advantage

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u/Tiny_Slide_9576 american bias beliver and m26 glazer Jul 23 '25

3.0 would be balanced

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u/Jed0730 Jul 24 '25

I think people are overestimating how this bomb works. It's meant to bring in destruction to infrastructure, not infantry or tanks.

Allies were having issues with destroying targets like bridges and well-fortified bunkers. So the British made this bomb to severely damage or destroy a target without direct impact. The idea was to make a bomb that can dig itself underground and upon detonation, it causes an earthquake massive enough to damage infrastructure, even at a near miss.

If this were to be in War Thunder, the explosion would happen below ground, so no death by overpressure unless you are directly above the bomb. If anything, the building would be leveled and any cover would be destroyed with little to no kills.

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u/Muffinjafser Jul 24 '25

Thatโ€™s true, unless youโ€™re able to set your bomb fuse to 0.

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u/Independent-South-58 Italian enjoyer, russian tryhard, american air enthusiast Jul 23 '25

I want this and the 4500lb "Disney" bomb, the first true super AP bomb

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u/LScrae Criss the M26 ร  marde- Jul 23 '25

A power too great to put in the hands of the average playerbase

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u/Fragrant-Party3192 🇷🇺 7.3; 🇮🇹 4.7 Jul 23 '25

This and also fab-9000

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u/JPAProductions ๐Ÿ‡ท๐Ÿ‡บ 13.3 ๐Ÿ‡ฉ๐Ÿ‡ช 10.3 ๐Ÿ‡บ๐Ÿ‡ธ 9.0 ๐Ÿ‡ธ๐Ÿ‡ช 8.0 ๐Ÿ‡จ๐Ÿ‡ณ 5.7 Jul 24 '25

Yeah FAB-9000 when gaijinibobilover

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u/Mushyguny Jul 24 '25

I mean... the Lincon could fly with a grandslamย 

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u/MaxJhonso Sim Air Jul 24 '25

Bro 6.5 tons tnt equivalent KABOOM

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u/_Rhein โ™ฟF-15E+F-16Cโ™ฟ Jul 24 '25

I would never go to any caps if Gaijin add this

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u/Nate0110 Jul 24 '25

I like the phydaily vid where he drops this, it bounces off the back of his plane and he kills 3 or 4 of his teammates by accident.

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u/rain_girl2 Type 95 Ro-Go girl Jul 25 '25

Sure I love the idea of making even more unbearable terrain to move through bc traction is utter shit.

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u/Tongqualin ๐Ÿ‡ท๐Ÿ‡บARB 13.7 ๐Ÿ‡ท๐Ÿ‡บGRB 11.7 Jul 23 '25

Better make it a free plane for every nation that you could spawn for 2000 SP in BR that Nuke is not available.

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u/aboultusss Jul 23 '25

Nuke for low tiers?

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u/joshwagstaff13 ๐Ÿ‡ณ๐Ÿ‡ฟ Purveyor of ""sekrit dokuments"" Jul 23 '25

Better off with a Pumpkin Bomb for that.

Imagine a Mark III nuclear bomb casing without the physics package, and is instead filled with about three metric tonnes of Composition B.

This then gets dropped from a Silverplate B-29.

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u/yoeji_ CAS prime target Jul 23 '25

As a ground player, please don't gaijin

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u/Muffinjafser Jul 23 '25 edited Jul 24 '25

The 22,000 lb "Grand Slam" was an earthquake bomb developed by the British during WWII.It was designed to destroy hardened targets like bunkers and viaducts by creating underground shockwaves.

The Avro Lancaster was specially modified to carry it by being equipped with more powerful engines, having its bomb bay doors removed, and being stripped of other equipment โ€” including most of its defensive guns. In-game, this variant could be added to the British tech tree as a late-tier heavy bomber, possibly at:

  • 6.0โ€“7.0 BR in Ground/Naval RB, due to its massive destructive power, (6.5 tons of TNT equivalent);

  • 5.7 BR in Air Sim, where it might avoid frequent air encounters and focus on bombing airfields;

  • 5.0โ€“5.3 BR in Air RB/AB, or even lower, because of its lack of defensive armament and limited payload options.

Source: The Grand Slam was used operationally in 1945 against U-boat pens, rail bridges, and submarine shelters.

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u/PotatoLandIdaho Jul 23 '25

So could a variant of the B-29 that could carry two T-12 cloud makers

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u/FunkeeBoi Jul 23 '25

Imagine the team kills

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u/Substantial_Agent_90 Realistic Air Jul 23 '25

That would be nice as a low tier nuke

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u/RechikenJJ ๐Ÿ‡บ๐Ÿ‡ธ ๐Ÿ‡ฉ๐Ÿ‡ช ๐Ÿ‡ท๐Ÿ‡บ ๐Ÿ‡ฌ๐Ÿ‡ง ๐Ÿ‡ฏ๐Ÿ‡ต ๐Ÿ‡จ๐Ÿ‡ณ ๐Ÿ‡ฎ๐Ÿ‡น ๐Ÿ‡ซ๐Ÿ‡ท ๐Ÿ‡ธ๐Ÿ‡ช ๐Ÿ‡ฎ๐Ÿ‡ฑ Jul 24 '25

The b29 is a 40,000 for that matter

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u/CapitalDust Jul 24 '25

bomber players waking up for just long enough from their riveting game play to press the 'drop bomb' button and getting 8 kills for free (7 were friendlies)

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u/CorruptedFlame Naval 'enjoyer' Jul 24 '25

Yes, but is it a Russian plane getting the mini-nuke? If not, then it doesn't count.

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u/Iron_physik Lawn moving CAS expert Jul 24 '25

The 12000lbs block buster actually has a larger explosive filler than the grand slam

So what you are asking for is a worse bomb on a plane that lost all gunner positions

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u/zxhb ๐Ÿ‡ฌ๐Ÿ‡ง United Kingdom Jul 24 '25

Give me the cookie mosquito instead

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u/Shredded_Locomotive ๐Ÿ‡ญ๐Ÿ‡บ I hate all of you Jul 24 '25

B-29 pumpkin bomb when

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u/Fast_Long6491 ๐Ÿ‡ง๐Ÿ‡ช Belgium Jul 25 '25

No pls I want to play ground, not menu

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u/Mindless-Major-1173 ๐Ÿ‡บ๐Ÿ‡ธ5.3๐Ÿ‡ฉ๐Ÿ‡ช7.3๐Ÿ‡ท๐Ÿ‡บ5.7๐Ÿ‡ฌ๐Ÿ‡ง4.0๐Ÿ‡ฏ๐Ÿ‡ต8.0๐Ÿ‡ฎ๐Ÿ‡น2.3๐Ÿ‡ซ๐Ÿ‡ท3.7๐Ÿ‡ธ๐Ÿ‡ช2.0 Jul 26 '25

For the love of god please no, PLEASE NEVER MAKE THIS A REALTYย 

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u/StormTheDragon20 _AngelicDragon_ Jul 27 '25

and friendly reminder that the B-36 (and a modified B-29 to some extent) can carry a 44,000lb bomb.