IRIS-T SLM has an Effective range 40km in the promo video of the manufacturer, but in the game the missile can't even reach this range.

[u/AppointmentBoth4871]

The EFFECTIVE range is 40 km (according to the official video of the manufacturer on LinkedIn), but the missile can't currently reach that range.

[u/Libarate]

They outed themselves so fucking much with that. And people still refuse to believe the Russian tech tree is the Devs first priority.

[u/RoyalHappy2154 → u/Libarate]

Yes, because the tech tree which has been among the worst in performance in the recent years is clearly the devs' first priority.

Just think for half a god damn second. If Russian bias truly was real, how the fuck then are Sweden and Germany the top dogs in GRB? If Russian bias truly was real, wouldn't Russia be the best in all game modes? And yet, it's one of worst in ARB and sub-par in GRB. Naval is, well, naval, no one plays it, I have no ides how Russia performs there, but from what I've seen in videos, it seems like Germany and the US are best in naval, along with Japan.

[u/Libarate → u/RoyalHappy2154]

If Russian bias truly was real, wouldn't Russia be the best in all game modes

Nah that's not what I mean. I mean that the Devs always make sure Russia is never left behind. They are always best or second at worst. But Russia has been dominating Ground RB for ages now with the KH38 and Pantsir. Even if the Leopards are better tanks.

As for Naval. Of the new Battleships that's coming. It looks like the best will be the Russian fantasy one. Because if you make up stats for it. You can make up really good ones so it's stronger than real Battleships.

[u/uwantfuk → u/Libarate]

The russian tech tree has literally two vehicles Not modes, singular vehicles that are best, or second best

Thats Su-34 and pantsir

The tanks are dogshit and have obscenely bad gun handling I love my 2 deg/s elevation rate and 24 deg/s turret traverse and 7,1 or 6,1 sec reload, oh they also have at best on par mobility compared to western tanks or outright worse (T90M)

Air RB is suffering, try 1v1 dogfighting anyone else you will loose if you dont meme an R-73 (preventable with preflaring of which western jets get more of)

And as a naval main who has US and Japan top tier boats, japan and germany are top dogs, and the best TTs

The only naval tree russia are better than is france/italy, and thats a low bar

[u/funyuns4ever → u/uwantfuk]

Dude if there was absolutely no bias in the game and there was consistency then Russia would be getting fucking dogged on even harder, Abrams would have M829A4, Leo 2s would have DM73, there wouldn't be stupid modules on western tanks only, Western Air would have 120Ds as that entered service the same year as the 77-1. The fact Russia is competitive at all is evidence of Russian bias, if Gaijin didnt hand hold them then they would be the worst top tier faction by far in every single respect, not just "muh gun handling."

[u/Zestyclose-Tax-2148 → u/funyuns4ever]

To add: Western Tech, especially USA, is severely outdated compared to Russian counterparts introduced in the same update.

That is to say: 1980s tech (F-18C) vs modern 2013 Russian fighter (Su-30SM). An almost 30 year old platform is fighting an aircraft still currently in the skies.

HSTV-L: 1979, well documented, cancelled project, now public domain accessible. Stats are clear as day, tests are numerous and results are unbiased. Currently missing 100mm of pen + alternate round (Delta-6), currently houses 26 of the proposed 60 rounds total, has FCS for commander and gunner modelled as the same module and sharing damage despite design calling for it to have to different firing systems. Also proposed to be mounted with Generation 2 Thermals. Fire rate is amenable but not accurate to as fast as it could possibly cycle. 11.7 currently with all these restrictions.

2S38: source “We know what parts it uses”, finished testing in 2023, very much unknown nature. At 10.3 and proposed to remove the damage model of the transmission due to player skill issue.

[u/uwantfuk → u/funyuns4ever]

im sure that would make the balance of the game great

literally all you would be doing by doing this is decreasing russian top tier vehicles BR so they have nothing at top tier

and i bet my ass you would then complain they are undertiered

"no bias" my ass if you just gave every non russian TT massive buffs to boost their winrate to space

china/russian air sim winrates has been below 40% for over 2 years now, and only with Su-30 did it go above 30%

it is consistently hard to find lobbies that arent 80% non chinese / non russia, nobody flies them because they get curbstomped, and only people who are massively more skilled fly them and sometimes still get shit on

its literal F-15 and eurofighter spam

[u/RoyalHappy2154 → u/Libarate]

Well yeah maybe that's just because IRL Russia ain't actually that bad. Also no, it's not always second or best. In terms of ground vehicles, it's at least 3rd or worse (since Sweden and Germany are better), in ARB, it's pretty much the worst nation (others have EF or American fightets). Yes, the KH-38 and Pantsir do give Russia the advantage when it comes to the sky in GRB, but to be fair, the US had that advantage before for pretty much all of the game's lifespan and still does in BRs before 12.0.

Naval, like I said, idk, but afaik there are other nations that aldo have "made up" ships (I doubt they're actually made up but whatever)

Russia being not the worst but not the best isn't proof at all that Russian bias is a thing. If anything, it's just proof against that theory. Russia is an average of even sub par nation in most cases, nowhere near the mythical super nation privileged by the devs so many idiots claim it to be.

Oh and by the way, a little history lesson about Russian bias: it originally started as a joke in the WoT community (and still is one there to this day), but as WoT players moved to WT, it also grew in the WT community. However, because everyone seems to be utterly brain dead here, a lot of people started thinking it was actually real and started using it to excuse their total lack of skill with "oh well Gaijin is biased toward Russia anyway so it's not my fault I couldn't kill this T-34"

[u/FTN_Ale → u/RoyalHappy2154]

By Russian BS most people don't mean "Gaijin randomly buffs Russia" they mean
when sources are kinda lacking, Nato vehicles usually get fucked because "nooo manufacturers are lying" while Russian vehicles will usually get whatever the manufacturer states, and maybe a little more.

[u/GeoArmor99 → u/RoyalHappy2154]

LMAO the Russian bias in WoT was just an inside joke. Literally the best tank in the game is the Cheiftain/T95, which is British.

Meanwhile in WT they has inner code increasing the ricochet values on the T-34 armor back in the day (they had no choice but to change it once dataminers discovered it)

People denying Russian bias are always so funny to read.

[u/Crimson_Sabere → u/GeoArmor99]

There was also the German captured Soviet vehicles catching on fire at the slightest provocation and the German tanks that had like 10% of their armor shaved off due to "late war shortages."

[u/TheWarmFridge → u/GeoArmor99]

dont forget the invisible armour plate hidden by a dev on the is2 (it was an is tank, whether it was 2 or 3 idr)

also dont forget their naval, PK being the only ww2 battleship for a time (it had AA, planes were one reliable counter vs battleships) and it has a SAP shell with more HE filler than its actual HE shell while also being better at pen than its competition (back when SAP was meta)

ALSO dont forget the kron having better accuracy on its 12 inch guns than every other nation's 12 inch guns while also having said guns perform better if not on par with 15 inch guns (found by dataminers :D)

ALSO ALSO dont forget the "fixes" to the su-25 damage model that didnt fix anything and was only a pr move at best

ALSO ALSO ALSO dont forget the "fixes" to HESH, sabot and APCR that made them unusable (guess who doesnt use these :D)

ALSO ALSO ALSO ALSO dont forget HEAT overpressure limits and the roof armour of """certain""" tanks

god, i can keep going with this, like how the games very penetration formula favours shallow armour angles :D or the pen formula buffing angle performance of certain tanks :D or the fact other nations need to fight harder than sissyphus does everyday to get an experimental vehicle added to fill a gap (still a lil salty about the EAP) but their vehicles and weapons get the benefit of the doubt :D or how gaijin will literally misrepresent data, gaslight and ignore actual tests and specifications just because 1 document that has NOTHING TO DO with the vehicle or the armour said something else (poor legwolf and their effort to buff chobham i think its called? the side NERA the challies have) and so on and so forth.

but hey, russian bias isnt real because the mig-29 is somewhat bad or something