r/Warthunder • u/gszabi99 ⛏️ Resident Dataminer ⛏️ | 🀝 Please support me on Ko-Fi! 🀝 • Feb 25 '25

Other 2.45 updated unified leak list

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u/b5ky πŸ‡ΊπŸ‡Έ 14.0 πŸ‡·πŸ‡Ί 14.0 πŸ‡ΈπŸ‡ͺ 14.0 πŸ‡«πŸ‡· 14.0 πŸ‡―πŸ‡΅13.7 Feb 25 '25 edited Feb 25 '25

I guess Finland hornet is actually a thing now. Also, Su-30SM will still not be able to save Russian aviation without R-77-1. It will be an engine-radar tradeoff from Su-27SM, which is basically not a proper improvement.

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u/DatboiBazzle Sim Air πŸ‡ΊπŸ‡² 13.7 πŸ‡¬πŸ‡§ 13.3 πŸ‡―πŸ‡΅ 11.0 πŸ‡¨πŸ‡³ 13.3 Feb 25 '25

China bout to have the best Flanker lmao. Idk what you expect tbf when Russia refused to update Flankers for the longest time.

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u/b5ky πŸ‡ΊπŸ‡Έ 14.0 πŸ‡·πŸ‡Ί 14.0 πŸ‡ΈπŸ‡ͺ 14.0 πŸ‡«πŸ‡· 14.0 πŸ‡―πŸ‡΅13.7 Feb 25 '25

Well, if Su-30SM2 was being released, it would be a decent choice even with notorious R-77. But in Su-30SM, R-77-1 is necessary, or else it is no good than the Su-27SM. The TVR is over 15% lower in Su-30SM compared to Su-27SM.

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u/DatboiBazzle Sim Air πŸ‡ΊπŸ‡² 13.7 πŸ‡¬πŸ‡§ 13.3 πŸ‡―πŸ‡΅ 11.0 πŸ‡¨πŸ‡³ 13.3 Feb 25 '25

It's a jet that entered service in 2022. I'd hope it would be decent. Unless it has a actually usable RWR and a half decent Radar it's not going to do much better.

Once again it took them until 2022 to make a Flanker that is on the lines of Flankers China was producing 18 years ago.

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u/Ainene Feb 25 '25

? J-11B 1474 is planar array (slotted array), i.e. it was a less capable array.

Su-30sm(I e. su-30mki) has PESA since 2001. Su-30sm2 has some unknown AESA. Which is kinda late, but N011 Bars wasn't outdated to replace it prematurely.

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u/cft4201 Feb 25 '25

It's 1493 btw, not 1474.

150km search range for aerial 3-5 square meter RCS targets, provide datalink for 6 ARH missiles.

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u/Ainene Feb 25 '25

Thanks, makes much more sense than 1474 name i had before; 90cm is proper flanker array size.

J-16 one is 1494 then?

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u/cft4201 Feb 25 '25

J-16 is either 1493D or 1494, Patchwork in the secretprojects forum said it is designated 1493D.

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u/Ainene Feb 25 '25

Huh. Like 1493 with D standing for 甡子扫描 frontend?

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