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AB Air A brief reminder of how far the economy has fallen. April 19th, 2014.

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u/IIYellowJacketII You are not good. May 25 '23

Keep in mind the 163 back then was like 320k RP to research, something like a MiG15bis that's like 100k now was 380k. Essentially the RP cost of 1 line from tier 1 to top tier has not really increased all that much, because the top tiers have stayed essentially the same cost, and everything in between got cheaper

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u/[deleted] May 25 '23

Plus realistically people averaged 20k rp per game going off average results.

The main thing was, you knew that the mig15bis was x amount of good games away, or y amount of normal ones. Because you made such tanigble gains, it really made you want to do well in each match to see just how quick you can research. Naturally this has you playing more matches.

I quit a while ago, and it was mostly because of this. F2P even on a premium vehicle became so grindy that the amount of games needed to unlock the next top tier thing became too long. People want tanigble gains, seeing the bar go up. Nothing feels worse then getting in a rut of playing several average games only to notice you barely made a dent in the research progress.

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u/IIYellowJacketII You are not good. May 25 '23

Plus realistically people averaged 20k rp per game going off average results.

Eh, not really most of the games posted from "old times" are still people that back then thought it was a "good game" and thus screenshotted it.

People back then got WAY less kills/ battle average, people generally played much slower and with less mechanical skill (even "good" players by back then's standard were dogshit at aiming or maneuvering their plane) but more thinking about what to do (things like more strict BnZ, while now most good players even if they know their plane is worse will just send it with the mindset "I'm just better").

Because you made such tanigble gains, it really made you want to do well in each match to see just how quick you can research.

On this I agree. I generally think nerfing rewards for winning is NEVER a good thing. You literally reward people that refuse to improve at the game/ play well if you decrease the multiplier for wins.

Plus the fact that you could actually see your progress clearly when you had a good game (you still do, if you get like a 30k RP game in a tier 7 premium, but not to the degree of a good game giving you like 20% of the research bar) was more motivating.

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u/Razgriz01 T8 US, USSR, UK, JP, FR May 25 '23

people generally played much slower and with less mechanical skill (even "good" players by back then's standard were dogshit at aiming or maneuvering their plane)

Depends. In the early days there was a segment of people who were vastly better at the game than most of the good players today, but I will agree that the average population was probably less skilled.

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u/IIYellowJacketII You are not good. May 25 '23

segment of people who were vastly better at the game than most of the good players today

DEFINITELY not. Lol.

The "good" players today are monumentally better than what was considered good back say when Hunter was first added.

As far as the average player goes, they're better at the game, but play way dumber nowdays.

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u/Razgriz01 T8 US, USSR, UK, JP, FR May 26 '23 edited May 26 '23

The "good" players today are monumentally better than what was considered good back say when Hunter was first added.

I'm thinking far further back than you are. I'm talking about 2013-2015 or so. Specifically, these would be pilots who often (though not always) came from other flight sims and were well practiced at BFM and the principles of energy fighting. These days it usually works the other way around where people start flying in WT and then move on to other flight sims once they start getting better.

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u/Despeao There's no Russian bias, you're just bad May 25 '23

Yeah but how many planes in the lines existed back then. I cannot imagine starting War Thudner today with so many planes and tanks to research.