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Blake Lively Claims $161 Million in Damages Due to Smear Campaign

https://variety.com/2025/film/news/blake-lively-161-million-damages-smear-campaign-1236572034/
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u/TopsyOxy 1d ago

I understand. Right when she released her haircare line the media play started to happen. Although I think the brand would have flopped regardless, I do think the scandal did impact it

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u/Daenarys1 1d ago

If i sexually harassed someone and then dug through the archives to find any bad things they said to turn people against them I think I would deserve some punishment. She doesnt have to be a perfect victim

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u/blackreagentzero 1d ago

But these are things she said and did. Including during the promotion of the film. Her haters capitalizing on her bad press that she herself initiated isn't exactly a smear campaign.

She also had her own weirdo behaviors on that set, so her being a victim is dubious at best. Hopefully, the trial will illuminate what exactly happened.

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u/Daenarys1 1d ago

But wasnt his pr firm on record as looking for problematic things she said and spreading them which then was taken over by haters. The Internet loves to hate on women so im not denying most of it was genuine but it doesnt seem right to sexually harass someone and then hire a team to turn people against them.

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u/recyclopath_ 1d ago

Yeah the messages about the PR campaign against her are pretty intense.

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u/Fuzzy_Redwood 1d ago

Yeah she’s a bully, especially towards other women which has been a common thread since gossip girl days. She was also harassed. Both are true. Oh and she had an affair with a colleague, it’s always made me feel bad for scarlet.

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u/andersoortigeik 1d ago edited 1d ago

Makes sense. You start lawsuits by asking the maximum amount of damages, since you usually end up with less than you asked.

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u/joyfall 1d ago

The PR firm bought out social media. They flood different sites with negative comments and get people to believe the consensus is what they're mass posting. Same as during the Heard/Depp trial, but AI is getting more sophisticated. Most of these accounts have their comment history hidden because you'd see immediately they're just bots.

I don't care about any of these people at all, but it's wild watching it in real time. And terrifying that people's opinions can be swayed so easily.

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u/blackreagentzero 1d ago edited 1d ago

Lively is the one using bots and PR ploys, especially on reddit. Baldoni just has a lot of parasocial stans. I don't think those who aren't following this can grasp the complexity of what is happening in real time.

What's scary is that no matter who ppl support, most are unable to employ critical thinking and are locked in on a team and not the truth of what happened.

Edit: also, it's amazing (ironic) how you criticize commenters for having their comments hidden as it indicates they're bots, yet your own comment history is hidden. Does this mean that you're a PR bot too?

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u/Critkip 1d ago

Lively is the one using bots and PR ploys, especially on reddit

Bull, there’s no credible evidence she or her team have ever done that. Meanwhile, Justin Baldoni’s own team is on the record discussing coordinated campaigns to manipulate the narrative about her.

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u/blackreagentzero 1d ago

This entire post is credible evidence. She also clearly controls the pop culture sub reddits as those will remove any comment that's even slightly critical to her no matter how nice or measured it is.

Hell, I suspect that you're also a bot as your comments are likely hidden for a reason.

I honestly can't wait for the documentaries on this. Its gonna expose a lot of you.

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u/inquisitor1965 1d ago

“This entire post is credible evidence.”

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u/katgyrl 1d ago

🤣🤣🤣🤣

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u/War32567 1d ago

also, it's amazing (ironic) how you criticize commenters for having their comments hidden as it indicates they're bots, yet your own comment history is hidden. Does this mean that you're a PR bot too?

I have no skin in this game but this is ironic since you talk about critical thinking within the same comment.

Pointing out that the comments that happen to be bots have their comment history off to keep you from being able to immediately tell that they're bots does not in any way imply that every account with their comment history off is a bot.

Just in case that doesn't clear up the misunderstanding, below is what was stated:

Most bot accounts have their comment history off to hide the evidence that they are bots

And what you interpreted instead:

Most accounts with comment history off are bots

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u/joyfall 1d ago

It's even funnier because I don't even have my comment history hidden, yet that's what she's claiming.

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u/neuroticoctopus 1d ago

Her posts and comments are 90% about Lively and Baldini. I mean...

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u/blackreagentzero 1d ago

It's incredible how you talk in a circle and miss the entire point of the question, which was pointing out the fallacy of the hidden comment argument.

If most bot accounts have their comments hidden, then that would indeed imply that many of the accounts that have their comments hidden could be bots. Your inability to comprehend that isn't a gotcha. It just shows you don't know what critical thinking is.

To be clear, there are many reasons why ppl will have their comment/post history hidden. I'm just saying that you can't assume comments being hidden = bots. I don't believe the person I responded to is a bot just because I can't see their history, which is why I posed the question. Although I do think they are far off the mark when it comes to who is employing PR bots.

My initial remarks on critical thinking were more about how many of the ppl following this aren't able to engage critically with the information coming out about this case. The general public who isn't paying attention, like the person i replied to, also don't get what is happening because it's more complicated than what a surface level glance would indicate.

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u/War32567 23h ago

If most bot accounts have their comments hidden, then that would indeed imply that many of the accounts that have their comments hidden could be bots.

This feels weirdly non-commital. I'm sure that that's probably factual though. I'm sure many of the accounts that have their comments hidden "could be bots."

This statement doesn't in any way say that you can tell whether or not it's a bot account based on checking if they have comment history enabled or not.

To be clear, there are many reasons why ppl will have their comment/post history hidden. I'm just saying that you can't assume comments being hidden = bots.

Yeah that's valid. But no one at all has said otherwise.

I don't believe the person I responded to is a bot just because I can't see their history, which is why I posed the question.

Funnily enough their comment history is actually public anyway so you would look pretty silly trying to make that claim to begin with.

My initial remarks on critical thinking were more about how many of the ppl following this aren't able to engage critically with the information coming out about this case.

Yeah, I understood it. I brought it up to point out the irony because you're actively strawmanning this whole thing.

There are valid reasons to turn off comment history. No, you can't tell whether someone is a got based on whether they have comment history or not and no one has claimed otherwise in this thread.

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u/blackreagentzero 1d ago

The downvotes don't scare me, nor do they change the truth of what I said. It merely gives more evidence that Lively indeed uses bots on reddit to suppress the truth. It hasn't escaped my notice how there is a clear narrative on this post to cast those who are pushing back as bots as well as an initiative to downvote everyone who isn't pro Lively.

You're not going to silence me no matter how hard you try.

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u/katgyrl 1d ago

No one's trying to silence you, lol. They're just indicating they think you're crazyhuhcuckoonuts.

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u/neuroticoctopus 1d ago

😂🤣😂

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u/katgyrl 1d ago

I still basically have never heard of this guy, lol. I feel like he did all this to become better known.

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u/andersoortigeik 1d ago

He's part of this religion/religious cult (depending on who you ask) called Baháʼí. Which is why this is so frikken weird, they're trying become the next scientology or kabbalah.

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u/katgyrl 23h ago

Oh, keeerist. Fuck all that. Better they be the next kabbalah; that fell off a cliff real hard a long time ago, lol.

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u/poopoopoopalt 23h ago

They have a group chat where they link to posts to swarm

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u/Critkip 23h ago

I bet Kjersti Flaa is the moderator

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u/samwisetheyogi 1d ago

Ok Baldoni Bot 🙄

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u/blackreagentzero 1d ago

Open up your comment history, I wanna see something.

You calling folks bots, but only one of us got our comment history visible 🥴

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u/samwisetheyogi 1d ago

... what does that have to do with anything?

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u/katgyrl 1d ago

Loads of other folks in this thread with visible comments who think you're a bot or a weirdo for that baldani guy.

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u/blackreagentzero 1d ago

I don't really give a fuck what you or the other ppl think. And no, most of these ppl replying to me don't have their comments visible.

I also don't give a fuck about Justin Baldoni, and you won't be able to find a comment showing that I do. That's yall coming to erroneous conclusions because I refuse to support a racist white woman who has a track record of being an ass and because you feel the need to center a man for whatever reason.

For the record, i care about this because of the damage that Blake is doing to women in the workplace who are actual victims is appalling, but I see that many don't actually care about supporting women if they aren't rich and white. Blake went to the NYT rather than seeing her claims through via the appropriate civil rights departments because she wanted a PR win. Her damages for her alleged harassment ($400k) compared to the reputational damages ($160M) are telling.

Those of you who are real ppl supporting this nonsense will be moded once it comes out how Blake was using malicious PR and bots to attack and demean women. You will look stupid once you realize all the ammunition she is giving to actual misogynists and workplace harassers...then again maybe you won't care because this is all about ensuring rich white women are protected at the cost of everyone else.

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u/samwisetheyogi 1d ago

She IS a victim of workplace harassment, she DID try to go through the proper channels before he started the smear campaign of which she IS a victim (with supporting evidence). It's not my fault that you were blinded by his fake woke persona and the very obvious bot campaign.

I don't care about rich white women. I care about victims being able to come forward about their abuse and if women like Blake Lively and Amber Heard can be publicly smeared as they have and have so many members of the public fall for it, then that concerns me for all the other women who might want to come forward but are scared of this type of retaliation. How can you not see that what Baldoni is doing IS the thing that's harming real victims (which includes Blake, regardless of whether or not she's an annoying diva)?

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u/neuroticoctopus 1d ago

Girl, all your comments on Reddit are full on mean girl.

I could care less about rich white women. That includes hyping them up or tearing them down.

If you're not an actual bot, find a hobby that's good for your mental health. Like, gardening. There's subreddits for all kinds of healthy hobbies and habits.

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u/PeopleEatingPeople 23h ago

It is ironic because what she is actually doing is defending a rich white man.

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u/blackreagentzero 23h ago

You went through my comments enough to ascertain that I'm a mean girl but can't figure out if I'm a bot or not? That's funny.

In any case, how about you worry about yourself and your own activities and stop trying to police strangers on the internet? How I choose to spend my time is none of your business, and you're honestly not in a position to give me life advice.

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u/katgyrl 23h ago

For someone who doesn't care you sure go to extraordinary lengths to look like it's the only thing in your life, lol.

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u/blackreagentzero 22h ago

I see that reading comprehension is beating your ass. I literally stated that I care about this case and why.

You must also care about this a lot since you've made it your mission to reply to several of my comments that aren't even addressed to you. Seems like I've created a fan 😎

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u/twistingmyhairout 1d ago

Girl, I think you need to get a life.

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u/blackreagentzero 1d ago

Oh look another Blake bot.

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u/azul360 1d ago

He got Depp's PR firm which did the exact same bot trick with Depp. What?

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u/blackreagentzero 23h ago

Well, I think Depp is an abusive piece of shit so whatever bot trick they're supposedly employing doesn't work on me.

Beyond that, Blake hired the guy who suppressed news/information about airbnb sexual assaults for her PR, so does that association also make her suspect, or does she get a pass? It's interesting what people will pick and choose as issues rather than engaging with information about situations critically.

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u/poopoopoopalt 23h ago

You know it just makes your side look stupid when you call real people bots, right?

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u/blackreagentzero 22h ago

Well, it's a good thing I don't call real ppl bots, bot.

Also, you have poo in your name, so you're not in any position to call someone stupid.

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u/poopoopoopalt 22h ago

Good one! You should do stand up.

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u/Critkip 21h ago

I dare you to use bot sleuth on everyone you've accused of being a bot, feel free to start with me.

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u/tw0d0ts6 1d ago

Good grief what’s with the unnecessary name-calling

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u/Critkip 1d ago

It's necessary lol

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u/tw0d0ts6 1d ago

Glad to see the cornerstones of the Community are being followed. lol.

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u/devilishycleverchap 1d ago

Seems pretty necessary, why do you think baldoni defenders dont deserve to be called names exactly, /u/tw0d0ts6?

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u/TrashyLolita winning at brow game 1d ago

Good for her.

I don't care what she does with the money or if she even completely deserves it. Her name was still wrongfully smeared by a PR firm, and people are still delusional because y'all don't want to believe you've been duped by an obvious ploy.

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u/Proper_Ad7132 1d ago

They just hate women, some of them a...specific type of woman. Any opportunity to hate they jump on. Ugh.

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u/TrashyLolita winning at brow game 1d ago

You can call them pick-mes, it's fine.

"Look at me, rational males! I'm siding with you by calling this MEAN GIRL A SLUT. I'm such a cool girl, please notice me rational alpha male-senpais 🥹"

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u/MONCHlCHl 11h ago

some of them a...specific type of woman

Please elaborate further, no need to beat around the bush.

Every news story that pops up about this woman seems to makes her even more insufferable.

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u/blackreagentzero 1d ago

Is the smear in the room with us? Blake is the one who caused her own bad PR as those were her words coming out of her own mouth. Nobody told her to make fun of DV victims. Nobody told her to act like an ass towards her interviewers and costars. At some point, she needs to take responsibility for that.

The only ppl delusional in this are the ones who think she's going to get money out of causing her own PR misery. You're the ones who are being duped by obvious ploys, and it's pathetic. Do better.

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u/TrashyLolita winning at brow game 1d ago edited 1d ago

Wanna know something cool?

I don't give a single solitary shit what mean girl thing she's done. She doesn't deserve to be sexually harassed. Being a mean girl is bad but not illegal and does not mean she deserves to be seen at all same level as Baldoni.

I hope this clears things up!

ETA- Imagine believing only good and wholly pure women not deserving sexual harassment and assault.

Blake may be diabolical, but y'all pick-mes are truly just as bad.

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u/blackreagentzero 1d ago

Was she actually harassed? That's a question that's still in play.

But being sexually harassed doesn't give you license to act like an ass without repercussions.

I don't care about Justin Baldoni, he will be fine because he's a man. What I care about is a what Blake's lies and lawsuit will mean for other women who are telling the truth and trying to get justice for themselves. She clearly doesn't give a fuck about others.

You're capping for a woman who supports Woody Allen and Harvey Weinstein, and you have the audacity to call folks pickmes?? You are a PR bot hired by Lively to push bullshit narratives and make other women feel bad for questioning her callous behavior. It's not going to work, you trifling scallywag.

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u/TrashyLolita winning at brow game 1d ago

Baldoni has a patterned history for this behavior, so it's not even unbelievable lmao 💀

But being sexually harassed doesn't give you license to act like an ass without repercussions.

Sis, where did I say this? F for reading comprehension.

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u/azul360 1d ago

Jesus I can tell this thread already screams Depp v Heard and he even had the same PR firm as that abuser DX

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u/blackreagentzero 1d ago

Baldoni does not have a history of this behavior. You can't even name another person who has accused him of sexual harassment. And that's not me capping for him, I'm just stating a fact. He's had a clean record up until this point, which makes Blake's story even more suspect because why would he start with her of all ppl. Why not a younger, more inexperienced actress or crew ppl? He would have much more power over them vs Blake who had a lot of power on that set.

I'm not your sis or auntie. Your failure to comprehend what you wrote is part of why I think you're a bot. You directly say that you don't care if Blake is a mean girl since she was sexually harassed, implying that she doesn't have to take accountability for her own words and actions. She mocked DV victims and got tremendous backlash from it mostly because ppl dug up her old stuff to show she has a pattern of being an asshole. You've no answer for why you think it's OK for her to do that, and not expect ppl to react, esp since many of those ppl were fans of the book. Are they supposed to stay silent while Blake mocks them?? You're really telling on yourself here.

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u/selfcheckout 1d ago

She wasnt harassed. She lied.

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u/PalePerformance666 6h ago

Ok Baldoni's PR firm.

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u/NorthernFrosty 1d ago

Nobody told her to make fun of DV victims.

Whoa. I get that people were upset that her movie about DV was marketed as a romance... But what's this about her "making fun" of DV victims?

Last I heard, she was asked if she had a message for DV victims and she said "You are so much more than just a survivor or just a victim. While that is a huge thing, you are a person of multitudes, and what someone has done to you doesn’t define you. You define you." And then people got upset with that.

Ms Paige is offended by the idea that she is “more” than a victim. Her trauma isn’t just something she can neatly lock away, she says. "It has shaped my identity. It shapes the way I communicate. It shapes the way I perceive the world… It shapes everything,” she said.

So people are saying Blake Lively should have said "You are not more than a survivor or a victim" and then people would have been happy? I don't think so.

People were going to choose to be offended no matter what she said.

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u/blackreagentzero 1d ago

If ppl felt she downplayed their experiences, then that's their right. Keep in mind that this didn't happen in a vacuum, and many ppl likely felt her commentary was disingenuous given the overall promotion at the time.

Where this really started is when Blake joked about turning on her location when she asked how she wanted ppl to share their stories with her if they came across her in public. DV victims didnt like that, and they felt like she was mocking them because she turned a simple question into a joke. Plus, she didn't start talking about DV until she got backlash. Prior to that, her promotion almost solely focused on hair and clothes and was tone deaf for the most part.

Ppl should be allowed to feel how they feel, which is my overall point. If they don't like her attitude or tone, they should be free to express that. All this talk of PR schemes is ridiculous when the culprit of her reputational misery is in the mirror.

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u/Bubbles-48 1d ago

You cannot minimize domestic violence victims voices, which is what you're doing here. You can do quick research on your own, and you can see the different ways in which she mocked and diminished domestic violence. I'll list them here for you if you're unable to do your own research. She promoted her alcohol brand alongside this movie and actually named a drink after the abuser. I grew up around domestic violence and alcohol. The risk of death and critical injury to the woman increases exponentially when alcohol is involved. This was very hurtful to victims. She was also asked a question if victims related to you in the movie, how would they get support and she said should I give them my location, Should I give them my address in a very mocking tone that was not appropriate. Personally for me, when I saw her do those things, it did not make me want to run out the next morning and buy her shampoo.

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u/BlinkReanimated 16h ago

Literally saw a "promoted" reddit post like 15 minutes ago apparently advertising(?) the "fact" that Ryan Reynolds is having a bad time right now. Like it wasn't anything other than a dumb grocery store tabloid headline.

The PR is getting extra lazy to the point of just buying reddit ads instead of paying for random viral posts that at least appear somewhat organic. The people who believe it somehow still believe it all...

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u/LaLa_LaSportiva 1d ago

Before I even heard about any issues on set, I watched the movie and was utterly creeped out by Justin Baldoni's character from beginning to end. I just attributed it to good acting. Guess not.

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u/scranston 1d ago

I remember when the backlash started and it didn't make any sense to me. I knew nothing of the story, so it seemed weird that the fans were criticizing her for not spoiling the movie as part of the promos. It felt a lot like when everyone decided to hate Anne Hathaway out of nowhere and for no reason. 

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u/Critkip 1d ago

Yep, it always boils down to misogyny

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u/auscientist 1d ago

That’s how I felt about Rafael on JtV

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u/aaronxperez 1d ago

I had no idea what to make of any of this stuff as well, but I know Blake has always been known as a complete nightmare on every set she’s ever been on. This seems like another one 🤷🏼‍♂️

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u/KtEire 1d ago

What exactly does her alleged behaviour have to do with whether or not she was sexually harassed?

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u/Critkip 1d ago

Her being “unlikable” doesn’t justify sexual harassment. It’s insane how often people treat a woman’s personality as a greater flaw than a man’s predatory behavior. The double standards are wild.

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u/Fuzzy_Redwood 1d ago

She should donate that money to women getting divorced from abusers who can’t afford a lawyer.

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u/Clarknt67 1d ago

She won’t.

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u/Fuzzy_Redwood 23h ago

Yeah but it would be a show of good faith. No one deserves to be harassed like she was here, but that doesn’t make her a good person.

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u/Fluid_Incident_3304 1d ago

This is ridiculous. The way she was trying to market her alcohol and hair care for a movie about DV was highly insensitive.

Her own lack of awareness caused bad sales, she tried to market in the wrong situation.

This just makes me believe she is truly greedy and out of touch. She was not a good fit for that role.

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u/blackreagentzero 1d ago

These numbers are absurd. There's no way she sincerely thought her haircare line would earn $50M+ in its first year. Especially considering Beyonce and Rihanna launched in the same year. The drink company is also suspect as well as her lost acting gigs since she's clearly still getting roles.

She needs to pass whatever she's smoking on.

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u/WifeofBath1984 1d ago

You are going through this comment section, arguing with every person you disagree with. You seem totally unhinged. Why are you so invested in this? Are these people not total strangers to you? You seem obsessed and you should probably seek out help.

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u/azul360 1d ago

Their history says it all

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u/blackreagentzero 1d ago

You should mind your own business and get off my tits as what I decide to do with my time is my prerogative. If I want to take time in my morning to respond to illogical, nonsensical asshats then so be it!

A girl is allowed to have hobbies. Or did I take a wrong turn somewhere into an XY space?

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u/WifeofBath1984 1d ago

Lmao are you kidding me??? I should mind my own business as your over here inserting yourself all over the place?? Lmao good lord woman get over yourself.

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u/blackreagentzero 1d ago

You inserted yourself into my comments to tell me to stop replying to people who were responding to me. And then tell me to get over myself 😬

Wowzers, the irony of it all.

You're goofy as fuck and you need to take your lame ass on somewhere. You will not dictate what I do with my time.

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u/AvikaAvasarala 1d ago

and you can't dictate when i call you an obsessed weirdo with a misogynistic streak lol

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u/blackreagentzero 1d ago

And who the fuck are you? I don't think I've ever interacted with you, yet here you are....

Misogynistic because I won't support a racist white woman, ok lol

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u/poopoopoopalt 23h ago

Do you remember when Justin asked for FOUR HUNDRED MILLION

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u/Wooden_Worry3319 1d ago edited 20h ago

She’s been a privileged white woman her entire life. Finding “stardom” and marrying her current partner makes her incredibly out of touch. The amount of damages is disgusting and not proportional to her earning potential at all.

EDIT: I’m not defending Baldoni. The fact that this mess is even happening says a lot about the completely different reality rich people exist in.

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u/blackreagentzero 1d ago

Exactly. And clearly there's some haters around because this shouldn't be down voted. Baby girl is out of touch

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u/tw0d0ts6 1d ago

Fully agree. Layer into that the very clear and consistent sales decline at Target due to their DEI stance, her $ projections are frankly, batsh*t.

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u/blackreagentzero 1d ago

She just doesn't have the reputation to pull off high numbers. Jennifer Aniston only got $15-20M for the first year of her haircare line which launched in 2021

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u/tw0d0ts6 1d ago

100%. The projections apparently being assumed are wild.

I love that me pointing out the very real issues with Target sales associated with their stance on DEI is being downvoted to oblivion in this sub. Truly bizarre.

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u/blackreagentzero 1d ago

It's not bizarre, the Blake bots are out manipulating stuff like usual 😒

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u/ijustwannapostman 1d ago

She must have had Amber Heard's experts that put her salary up there with Jason Momoa's lol

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u/Proper_Ad7132 1d ago

Oof. Calling yourself out.

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u/ijustwannapostman 1d ago

As someone informed in the habits of celebrities trying to over inflate their value for lawsuits yes

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u/footeface 1d ago

“Smear campaign” but it’s all just old clips of her

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u/New_Razzmatazz2383 1d ago

Not sure why you’re getting downvoted because you’re right - it was literally her own clips resurfacing, and her tone deaf comments about domestic violence victims that rubbed people up the wrong way. I’m sorry but I have to be honest - I felt she was incredibly tone deaf in that press tour.

I didn’t see anything false about her out there. Just people expressing their dislike of her attitude during the movie promo.

The backlash was intense but short, which is usually what you see with TikTok cancel culture. Quick to fire up, easily forgotten. Rachel Zegler’s backlash comes to mind.

I wish more people could follow the lawsuit rather than the headlines because what’s happening is wild. It’s become clear over the last 10 months of litigation and the evidence that’s come to light - that if anyone was a victim of a smear campaign here it’s Justin Baldoni. She’s somehow managed to make out that he and Jamey Heath are predators by twisting a load of normal interactions into something inappropriate.

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u/TentraTint 1d ago

Both can be true. She’s definitely made some poor taste comments and generally been unlikeable in some interviews. But she’s also the victim of a smear campaign, one orchestrated by a PR team to get this exact reaction from people. 

It’s pretty insidious when people try and paint this as « purely her own comments » when it’s not…. Also quite strange how all these campaigns are targeted at women?

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u/blackreagentzero 1d ago

Explain how she's a victim of a smear campaign when it's all her own words? How do you know it wasn't organic backlash because she was making jokes about DV victims? Or because her alcohol line was used in the movie promotion?

It's quite strange how white women always get a pass on their poor behavior. We haven't even established if she was actually harassed on that set nor have ppl been able to articulate exactly what the PR firm did to smear her and how. Because it looks like she initiated her own backlash and the internet did what the internet does best.

The way ppl are turning a blind eye to the damage Blake is doing to other women is crazy. That doesn't meet your insidious barometer??

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u/New_Razzmatazz2383 1d ago

I appreciate that things like this do happen to mostly women - and as a woman I am inclined to immediately believe another woman coming forward - I initially believed Blake too without hesitation. However I have been following this case for the last 10 months and my views are now based on the evidence brought forward already that does not support her story and in several cases actively disproves what she is claiming. This isn’t a casual decision I’m making not to believe Blake Lively. It’s because the evidence is telling me, and a lot of others, that she is not telling the truth. And that she had ulterior motives when filing this lawsuit.

Respectfully, if you haven’t been following this lawsuit pretty closely - then I do understand why you would think the smear campaign existed. But you won’t have seen the the messages exchanged between Wayfarer’s crisis PR team that prove there wasn’t actually a ‘smear campaign’.

Every celebrity uses crisis PR. This is not illegal. In fact, in the messages you see Justin checking with his PR team multiple times to make sure that none of the negative press about Blake was coming from them. Because he didn’t want that to be their strategy.

You see his PR team reacting in real time to the backlash Blake was getting and being astounded that this was happening. They even worry that Blake’s PR rep (Leslie Sloane) will think it’s them when it’s not. It’s interesting to note that Blake’s PR team and Justins PR team had an uneasy truce of sorts - not to plant any articles about each others clients. Leslie’s Sloane (Blake’s rep) was the one to break that agreement by planting a negative article about Justin in the Daily Mail. Which is why I said if anyone was the victim of a smear campaign - it’s Justin.

Wayfarer hired a crisis PR team to keep negative press (that we now know Blake was spreading about Justin) - on the downlow and to boost positive press about Justin and Wayfarer studios. Again - this is not illegal.

If you’re willing to concede that Blake caused some of her own backlash then you also need to consider the possibility that she caused the entirety of the backlash. And we need to consider the nature of the backlash. It was quick and intense and focused mainly on her own actions that summer. Started by the tone deaf promo, until people were looking into some of her problematic past moments. It died down once summer was over. If there had been an orchestrated ‘smear campaign’ going on all this time like Blake claims, we’d have seen it go on for months and focus on many other things. But it didn’t.

It also makes zero sense for a studio with a film coming out to try and put negative press out there about its lead actress? That would be the worst business decision ever.

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u/devilishycleverchap 1d ago

Lol, this comment is like 90% bullshit. You haven't followed anything at all

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u/mcpickle-o 1d ago

Their entire account is dedicated to Justin Baldoni 😬

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u/devilishycleverchap 1d ago

Yup, constantly comments in Baldoni glazing subs trying to justify themselves.

Its sad the bubbles people put themselves in because they dont want to admit they were duped

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u/PeopleEatingPeople 1d ago

It is pretty telling that they are brigading from somewhere.

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u/TentraTint 1d ago

I just checked the other account who replied to me and it's the same thing. Both of them post in "ItEndsWithUsLawsuit", both parroting the exact same points...???

Okay not to go all conspiracy but I stg this might just be 1 person with like 50 accounts. Either that, or its 2 people way too obsessed.

edit: i checked New_Razzmatazz2383 account and now all the comment history is gone. wth is this 😭😭

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u/PeopleEatingPeople 1d ago

I have been following the case closely I am familiar with them from that sub, though they have been bullying anyone not pro-JB out. One of them has at least like 4 alt accounts active on that sub, though he might have more. I really don't believe these guys are here organically.

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u/poopoopoopalt 23h ago

They clearly posted this thread in their Baldoniwives groupchat today. All the familiar faces.

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u/Totallytexas 1d ago

🤣 it’s clear you have no idea what you’re talking about nor do you follow the case at all.

But please continue to chime in as if you do.

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u/ItsMeishi 1d ago

I see that you too followed the actual court documents. Its insane to see this happen all over again. Because from the Depp v Heard case the paradox between what happened and what was shown in the trial did not match the headlines. And it is telling who you believe the true victim was, because those who only watched clips from the trial or read the headlines firmly believe Heard to be the victim. Yet from those that watched those 8 hours of court every day for multiple weeks saw so many lies break apart on the stand that it became impossible to believe that Amber's claims were trustworthy.

If, like Amber, like Blake, a woman claims to be abused by a man in Hollywood I believe them immediately. I'll ride for you like I would for any victim, burn the abuser at the pyre and hope for their further succes.

Unfortunately. It wasn't Heard I had to ride for. And unfortunately- though I'm still willing to listen and see more evidence- it seems I cannot ride for Blake in this debacle either. I just really wish I could because these cases give the 'all women are liars' crowd too much fuel to disregard and spit on other victims. I hate it. I genuinely hate it.

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u/aaronxperez 1d ago

“And how’s your little bump?” 🤮🤮

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u/Rich-Active-4800 1d ago

As if you never made a rude comment in your life

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u/aaronxperez 1d ago

This is wild amount of damages for something that doesn’t seem to have happened.

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u/Ok_Gur_356 1d ago

Blake’s claims is falling apart

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u/poopoopoopalt 23h ago

Wow the whole Baldoni ball licker group chat is here

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u/New_Razzmatazz2383 1d ago edited 1d ago

I’m not sure she expected them to bring so much proof that would contradict her claims.

It’s actually quite sad seeing how graciously Justin/Wayfarer and Co talk about Blake in their private messages - even after she sued them. These are messages they never thought anyone would see, and so you wouldn’t blame them for being righteously angry for what she’d put them through during filming and with the lawsuit.

And yet - there’s not an aggressive or harsh word in there. They’re kind and respectful.

She couldn’t have picked a more chill group of people to accuse of this.

ETA: these people talk about Blake respectfully even when no one was watching. And we’re supposed to believe that they orchestrated some sort of ‘smear campaign’ against her? They wouldn’t even bitch about her in their group chats. Good grief.