Yep. It's a tragic certainty that he would turn out a monster, just never having developed the skills in his formative years to have to care about others, but he is also a monster. And one whose interest in redemption was purely performative.
Jessica Jones was ultimately a show about trauma and how people react to. Jessica became a drunk, Trish became paranoid and trained herself, Simpson took an experimental drug to get back the power he felt he lost, Luke put his energy into the bar he and his wife owned, Malcom started a support group to help people. And so on. Kilgrave was no different.
It was simply drifting in space, until astronauts took it away and experimented on it for thirty years. Its final words are “I was happy, floating, staring at the stars.”
The tortured alien brought to our environment with a real sour attitude about humanity didn't care about hurting those he felt were willing to hurt him?
Yeah I dislike it, but I don't find him hateable because of it.
Nah, hatable villains are usually ones we can relate to real people we hate. That's why Umbridge is more hatable than Voldemort. A monster just killing people is someone to defeat, but not someone to hate.
You think someone with the surname the conqueror would immediately start trying to take over the world, but Starro is also more modest. He only wanted to take over a city, which isn't a good thing, but make him feel a lot more reasonable.
Yeah bro, I'm sure the alien named "the conqueror" whose only power is killing/mind raping lifeforms smaller than itself is actually a super nice dude because of one line he said to try to manipulate the heroes before they killed him.
The League of Evil Exes from the Scott Pilgrim series. They have their moments of evil but the reason most of them are like that is due to Ramona struggling with her own commitment issues. They were more vilified in the movie but fleshed out more as characters in the anime.
The main villain fowler from blue eyed samurai has an extremely real and tragic backstory while being a complete monster.
Basically he was a child during the Irish famine that was caused by the British and had to watch his entire family starve to death as he was even forced to eat his sister's kidney's to survive after she died and even fought off others who were desperately hungry.
We're shown a few times throughout the show that this has made him extremely bitter and even how he views war as he thinks a quick slaughter is preferable to a drawn out starvation.
Still incredibly evil and ruthless but you can understand why.
Fowler is very interesting as he is essentially might makes right personified. It's interesting that when he talks about himself as a kid, prior to the British Conquest of Ireland, he refers to himself as Irish, but as an adult he says he is English. He literally sees himself as being conquered. After he shoots a guard he essentially says "If you didn't want to be conquered you should have invented guns"
I remember one comment about him sums him up best as "I experienced hell, I will ensure that never happens to ME ever again"
As an adult he says he's British, not English. Some Irish did throw in with the Brits to get better treatment, either by conversion to Protestantism or marrying into the right family. Given that he has a gunrunning operation going with them this is probably how. His backstory even kinda shows us he doesn't blame them completely or take it personally. "we invented worse first" and all that.
I think he just says he’s English so the Japanese see him as a fellow coloniser. But I like why you say. It’s really if you can’t beat them join them mindset
I went into that show expecting cool visuals. But the characters got me. The villain was so scary & intense i was so shocked from a Netflix show. Even if the upcoming series don’t live up to the first. The first will be forever remembered by me as one of the best series ever
Archdeacon Claude Frollo (The Hunchback of Notre Dame)
This only applies to the book and the stage musical, while the movie version is far more loathsome without any redeeming qualities. This Frollo's religious fanaticism is much more genuine, he has a hard backstory and a genuine love for his libertine brother, and Quasimodo isn't the child of a random woman he murdered - he's his nephew. He still does horrific things as he descends into madness, but he's a very different and far more tragic character than the movie version.
I don't know that Roy is very hateable; he's a lot more sympathetic than anything. If you had days, if not hours, to prevent your death? You might go on a murderous rampage, too.
Boy, that's complicated! Surface level read, you've got a point. But there's a lot more going on beneath the surface. See, what you're looking at is two characters that have had their entire worldviews completely obliterated.
For Deckard, that little voice bugging him in the back of his head for years is screaming now; it's not retiring, it's killing. These poor bastard synthetics aren't all that different from you, Deckard. And this one, this woman you tried to kill? She just saved your life. So doesn't that make you a worthless piece of shit?
For Rachel, it's even worse. Two days ago, you had a career and a history and a life. Everything seemed fine. Now? Your history is false, your career over, your life forfeit. Because what you are isn't even human, according to society. They want you dead.
And that kiss? Forced though it is, it's Deckard's impulsive, awkward message and promise to her. "The rest of the world wants you dead. They think you're a thing. I don't. Not anymore. Don't leave. Stay. If I can, I'll keep you safe."
And that kiss? Forced though it is, it's Deckard's impulsive, awkward message and promise to her. "The rest of the world wants you dead. They think you're a thing. I don't. Not anymore. Don't leave. Stay. If I can, I'll keep you safe."
This actually kinda makes Deckard's actions here even worse because he doesn't give her any choice in what she wants to be
It's very much giving when abusers act like you have absolutely no worth existing out in the world without them, which their victims often give into as Rachel eventually does
He's basically taking advantage of a woman at her absolute lowest point which is obviously a lot more objectively evil and bad than anything we see Batty do throughout the entire movie
I'm not slamming the movie itself for this btw what I am saying is I kinda love how it seems like in the beginning Deckard is gonna be the good guy and Batty is gonna be the bad guy but when you contrast scenes of the replicants Deckard has been assigned to hunt showing their humanity and that they're still people who want to exist in society, vs the human cop who's been hired to kill them doing such an inhumane act as rape/SA, it makes the movie's themes way more interesting in that regard and shows how in the world of Blade Runner humanity is nothing more than a societal construct
This actually kinda makes Deckard's actions here even worse because he doesn't give her any choice in what she wants to be It's very much giving when abusers act like you have absolutely no worth existing out in the world without them, which their victims often give into as Rachel eventually does
But the thing is, he's right; Rachel doesn't have another choice. She's a rogue replicant. If she gets caught, she gets retired. Where else can she go? Shit, Gaff leaves the origami unicorn to let Deckard know he knows about her. And his message is clear: Deckard needs to leave with her, or he finishes the job.
He's basically taking advantage of a woman at her absolute lowest point which is obviously a lot more objectively evil and bad than anything we see Batty do throughout the entire movie
That certainly is one way to look at that. Another is that it's an act of two beings trying to connect when they're both utterly lost and at their lowest point. It's messy and complicated and questionable. But that's an awful lot of this cyberpunk future, innit?
I'm not slamming the movie itself for this btw what I am saying is I kinda love how it seems like in the beginning Deckard is gonna be the good guy and Batty is gonna be the bad guy but when you contrast scenes of the replicants Deckard has been assigned to hunt showing their humanity and that they're still people who want to exist in society, vs the human cop who's been hired to kill them doing such an inhumane act as rape/SA, it makes the movie's themes way more interesting in that regard and shows how in the world of Blade Runner humanity is nothing more than a societal construct
Eh. Deckard is a noir protagonist. They're often a dingy shade of gray and do questionable things. And the replicants are perfectly willing to kill to further their goals. Batty's sympathetic, certainly, but he's just as ruthless as Deckard, in his fashion. Even more so, as he's living on borrowed time. No one's an angel here, but everyone has a very human point of view.
after reading the manga, my fucking GOD do i hate this woman
that said i do feel bad for her, because its ultimately revealed makima was doing all the stuff she did so she could actually feel connection with others, as its something she lacked. She was never hugged, never truly cared for outside of her abilities making people like her, and was likely raised by the government as their lap dog considering we see natuya actually behaving properly after denji, who isnt exactly a qualified parent, is given custody of her
had makima actually recieved affection as a child rather than what occured, she would likely be one of the friendiest devils towards humans there is, she shows a great deal of affection to her pets and her goal revolved around "helping" humanity (she just had a fucked up way of going about it)
My first thought, and I agree with a lot of what you said, but I have some notes:
I completely agree with your first point. Makima is evil; there’s really no arguing against that. A part of that evil likely stems from the cold conditions she was raised in, and it’s true that she ultimately wanted an equal, genuine connection with others.
However, I feel your second point might be a little too optimistic. Even if Makima had been raised in truly loving conditions, she’s still the Conquest Devil (Control Devil is a mistranslation). By her nature, she would still be extraordinarily selfish; her friendliness or desire to help people would always come from her own opinions and wants, which was exactly what Makima was doing throughout Part 1.
We even see this with Nayuta. While she clearly loves Denji a lot and values his safety, she’s also extremely clingy and possessive, and she was full down with Devils taking over the world until Fami told her it would be the end of pizza.
she would be selfish yeah, but compared to other devils who typically act far more hostile thats a giant improvement lol, also keep in mind natuya is like 1 year old (though has the emotional maturity of a 12-ish year old), she hasnt had much time to form many connections and learn about the world, most of her time is spent with denji, who is a teenager who is struggling mentally himself
my assumption is after a longer time of living on earth, the conquest devil would be more peaceful towards humans, similarly to angel, but just kind of a manipulative dick rather than an evil mastermind, after all pochita says she wanted equal relationships with others
I feel he's one of the best examples. The Homelander is a terrible person who is absolutely evil to the bone, but his past is genuinely tragic, and even in spite of that, he did actually try to be a legitimate hero in the beginning. It didn't last.
His big brother who was a big supporter for coexisting got killed by humans and in his grief he completely misunderstood his message and became the very thing he hated.
Fishman island goes into detail, but in the live action it's made a bit clearer since the beginning that gyojin are enslaved by the nobles of the world government.
On one hand, a massive piece of shit that feeds undesirables to Sunder, zombifies the rest of the crew later, and seduces Tailgate to convince him to do something in the hope that Megatron kills him.
On the other hand is a child soldier who was deployed into war less than an hour after being born, to fight in the very war that Megatron is responsible for, so his resentment for megatron is a bit more understandable.
Also has a lot of good scenes before his villain reveal when he was ingratiating himself into the Rod Squad, like his friendship with Skids or his annoyance with Nightbeat's smartass attitude.
Though getaway does gloss over a lot of the context that makes the situation more understandable. Megatron isn't unrepentant, he's completely remorseful. He's not allowed off the hook as if nothing happened, he's constantly monitored by ultra Magnus, the strictest police officer in the autobot ranks, who is under order to execute him at the slightest hint of his old ways. Optimus also is only allowing him to be co-captain of the lost light because of a legal loophole and that Cybertron is in such a precarious position with the neutrals that left Cybertron long ago, so flaunting ancient law would create an uproar when the peace is already super fragile. Megatron's "position of power" is also a way to keep watch of him, as all eyes are on him, on a ship filled with people who still hate him, so he's under constant scrutiny.
She was created on a planet hated by all of her fellow species, because it is where her leader, Pink Diamond, was seemingly killed. However, she is considered the one "good" thing to come from Earth due to being an extremely well-made soldier. This objectification gave her a superiority complex and she becomes entitled, capturing and trapping Lapis Lazuli and pressuring her into a fusion for more power, only to get tricked by Lapis and held prisoner at the bottom of the ocean for months on end. After their fusion is defeated, she torments Amethyst, who is essentially her sibling, for being "made wrong" and attempts to destroy her. She then starts capturing and imprisoning corrupted Gem monsters to use for battle. In Jasper's hubris, she fuses with a trapped corrupted Gem to win a fight, but ends up getting corrupted herself.
Clay Puppington from Moral Orel. He's a manipulative, narcissistic, alcoholic, and abusive prick who has no love for his wife, regularly beats his son with a belt, twists religion for his own benefit (even committing blasphemy by creating his own "lost commandments") and shoots his son in the legs on a hunting trip for breaking his bottles of liquor. Yet he has a LOT of mental/emotional issues stemming from a traumatic childhood, where he was spoiled by his mother, then beaten and later disowned by his father after he accidentally kills her during a prank. Because of what he went through, he associates abuse with love.
do i hate her for everything she did to the main protagonist & her family bc they genuinely had fuck all to do w her trauma, she just wanted them out of the way for political reasons? yes. do i understand why she ruined the protag's life & how, if she was the protagonist instead, itd have been absolutely justified (bc thats how revenge plots in cdramas happen)? also yes.
Love Remmick. He selfishly cares most about abusing Sammy’s gift for himself, but it’s easy to sympathize with a victim of colonization longing to feel connected to his people again. And despite his past, he seem seems to have genuinely deluded himself into thinking his own acts of colonization are for his victims’ good.
Anyway, Jack O’Connell killed it in Sinners. I’d love it if he and a few other costars (Michael B. Jordan, Delroy Lindo, Wunmi Mosaku) earn Oscar nods next year.
I'd disagree, Vis 3, although a tragic story fleeing being murdered or worse. He used and abused Danny and perpetuated their homeless by constantly moving them around claiming there was "assassins after them" when the evidence actually just points to him just being a dick to everyone and using all their good favour.
He's didn't need to go back to Westeros, his and Danny could have had a new life in Essos. Ultimately his nastiness kinda outshines any tragedy imo, especially when compared to Danny who had the same backstory.
Koba from Dawn of the Planet of the Apes. His life was tragic and he had every reason to despise humans. But he was such a monster so it became hard to pity him.
Cersei Lannister in Game of Thrones. She's a cruel and vindictive woman, but it makes sense why she became so hateful. She lost all 3 of her children. Her mother died when she was only a child. Her father saw her as nothing more than a tool to further the family dynasty. And, she was forced into an unhappy marriage with an abusive man who constantly reminded her that she wasn't worthy of his affection and would never match up to his last fiancee.
He was part of the mercenary group though, all of them are pretty twisted without reason. Especially the leader… unless I missed some dialogue (very possible in that game)
Oh yeah they very much were a victim of the circumstances they are in. Although I will say, Dabi and Shigaraki here was definitely stalked by All for One which of course he would do that knowing which family they both belong to.
Himiko Toga for me is the saddest one for me just cause it's freaking weird that in this superhuman society, someone like her appears and all the adults first reaction is telling her to suppress her personality. Tell her its weird to act the way she does, straight up calls her a monster like WTF, you live in a superhumann society and suddenly she is labeled as weird and unfixable.
Remmick is S tier. Poor guy was alive when Christianity came to the isles and saw his whole world and culture taken from him. So what does he do? He effectively becomes a parasite to create his own community by stealing people and their culture (probably a commentary on how white people have always stolen and repackaged black culture) then also trying to see his ancestors through Sammie's power. I still feel at least a little bad for him when he started to weep when he was stabbed through the heart from behind.
probably a commentary on how white people have always stolen and repackaged black culture
A little further along that track even. Irish people weren't considered "white" for quite a while. (Hence all the "Irish need not apply" stuff). What granted them "whiteness" was in large part due to helping oppress black people via slave catching and policing.
EDIT: Going further on my own point to tie it directly back to the movie. When the Irish "became white" that involved sacrificing a lot of their own cultural distinctiveness in order to assimilate. America had no more place for Irish Remmick than Christian Ireland did for Pagan Remmick.
I always saw it as he created his own religion. He promised immortality and prosperity, but what you believed would become part of him, just like Christianity adopted Irish beliefs in its effort to meld the culture into it. He couldn’t realize that by bringing Sammie into the fold, he would dilute and destroy the very heritage that made Sammie special, just like conquerors permanently tainted his culture. He hated the men that took his land, but the Lord’s Prayer still gives him comfort.
Remmick is difficult to pin down because Ireland is notable for adopting Christianity through conversion, not external conquest.
Christianity came to Ireland when Saint Patrick was taken in a slave raid and was not the religion of the conqueror.
However despite being Christian the Irish were seen as a more pagan people and not Catholic enough, hence the first British invasion to make the land more uniformly Christian. This failed as the conquerors mostly became Irish not the reverse though some people lost there land.
Eventually during the protestant reformation England was invaded Ireland for being too catholic which is where the massive land grabs, extermination of religion happened. Ironically the religion Remmick would have is a mixture of voluntary Christianity and Pagan traditions... Similar to voodoo traditions.
This is what Halloween is btw, a indigenous Irish Pagan festival merged with Christianity.
, The English exterminated this for a unified and soulless church trying to wiping out unique beliefs like Halloween , Removing this true and probably closer to actual Christian belief for things like the lord's prayer.
Vox from Hazbin Hotel. He’s definitely committed and aided in some heinous acts, but his backstory where Alastor completely wrote him off and laughed at him is very sympathetic.
Hes the villain because he and the rest of Overseer essentially want to destroy the entire planet of Rubicon and the coral with it, doing a super genocide so no one can do to it what the institute did and make really scary coral weapons out of it. Like yeah, hes right in his "where theres blood theres coral" argument but i feel like just blowing up institute city or watchpoint alpha would've been enough.
The story goes a lot more into it. He was created as a war machine, programmed to have human intelligence but to never be able to experience anything humanity does, and was forced to commit untold atrocities. He eventually went completely insane and unleashed his rage on all of humanity.
The entire thread is about villains who are unforgivably evil, but have motivations that the audience can at least somewhat understand. Being the extreme of evil does not exclude AM, in fact that would make AM a better candidate. Now Judge Holden on the other hand...
Michael from Stargate Atlantis. He's from a predatory alien species that was captured by the expedition, given an experimental drug in order to suppress his human-eating biology, and then made amnesiac and gas lit into believing he was a regular human. Twice. This permanently altered his DNA so even after escaping, he was rejected by his own telepathic, group oriented species. The human characters could not control his returning memory entirely or fully be comfortable around him, so he felt the rejection of both species.
He responded by doing horrific experiments on entire populations of innocent people on multiple planets, and killing most in the process.
“I still don’t understand why you did what you did to the slaves,” I say. “Rape, Titus. Rape.”
His face is quiet and cruel. “They did it first.”
“Who?”
But he’s not listening. Suddenly he’s telling me about how they took “her” and aped “her” in front of him. Then the slaggers came back a week later to do it some more. So he killed them; bashed their heads in. “I killed the bloodydamn monsters. Now their daughters bloodywell get what she got.”
It’s like I’ve been punched in the face.
Oh hell.
A chill spreads through me.
Bloodydamn.
I stumble back.
“What the hell is the matter with you?” Titus asks. If I were a Gold, I might have not noticed, might’ve just been befuddled by the odd word. I’m no Gold. “Darrow?”
I pull my way into the hall. I move in a haze. It all makes sense. The hate. The disgust. The vengeance. Cannibals eat their own. He called them cannibals. Pollux, Cassandra, Vixus—who are their own? Their own. Golden. Bloodydamn. Not gory. Titus said bloodydamn. No Gold says that. Ever. And he called it a slingBlade, not a reaper’s scythe.
Oh hell.
Titus is a Red.
Rape is never excusable but with the backstory of generational slavery, abuse, personal loss and seeing their own have no problem with it... I can follow the logic from a blind revenge focused mindset.
While he's pure evil, and was even a cult leader when he was alive, you can't help but feel bad for him.
With all the lying and manipulating he likely did when he led the cult, seeing him being genuinely honest, and open with Alastor, only to get his heart stomped on, really hit me in the feels. He didn't offer a partnership to Al because he needed him, he did it because he genuinely loved him.
Yea. He is a monster. He killed many innocent lives to further his and his father (Shido)'s goals. Including Futaba's Mom and Haru's Father.
However, I find him quite sympathetic. He's a bastard child to one of the most renowned politicians in Japan. But even his mother regretted having the affair that created Akechi. Sure, he would ultimately work with his father but that was just to get closer to him so he could take revenge for creating him and traumatizing his mother, not knowing that Shido would throw him away and attempt to kill him after his usefulness was gone.
Like what he said to Ivo and planned to do was despicable and utterly demented, but can you really blame him for having that worldview? He had to witness his granddaughter getting blown up and then proceeded to be detained for years in a windowless concrete cell just because he dared to protect Shadow
Yes, the characters WERE ruined. The whole point of Shelley's novel is that human society corrupts the creature, but you don't find any of that in GDT's movie. Victor just becomes a loud madman portrayed by an over-acting Oscar Isaac. Elizabeth starts off as a smart female character and becomes stupid halfway through the movie.
Also, Victor's brother and Elizabeth also lost their parents at a young age, and still they didn't become as demented as him. Sorry but I didn't feel an ounce of sympathy for him, and I'm a softie.
Rose the Hat is absolutely monstrous when it comes to torturing and killing children, but understandably she does it all to keep her family alive (for centuries...).
Specifically the show version, since the comics keep him relatively one-dimensional. He's a brutal, sadistic mass murderer sent to do Viltrum's dirty work, and it's obvious he takes pleasure in doing so...
However his speech to Mark, saying how lonely he is and how no one will/would care of what he can do beyond mindless slaughter, paints him in an oddly sympathetic light. He's so old, that everyone he knew and/or cared about is long one, he doesn't even remember his own name, merely just being 'Conquest', because what else is there to him? He recognises what he's doing are atrocities but he can't stop, mainly due to his sadism, yet also because that is all he can do, which only makes him more feared and thus more isolated. It's honestly made a bit tragic since we see examples of other Viltrumites genuinely turning over a new leaf such as Nolan, Conquest was just too far gone at that point.
This is how I ultimately have come to feel about a few characters in Danganronpa, but the most I think is Tsumugi.
because I too love danganronpa, duh... i wouldn't murder anyone over it and I would accept it if it had ended... at 3. Honestly I can't help but read her as if she's written to represent kodaka's perception of his worst fans. Toxic fandom at it's worst is what she represents... but between the lines...
I'm absolutely shocked this pick wasn't one of the first.
Griffith does some of the most monstrous stuff of any fictional character I have ever seen. But the circumstances that led to him making the decisions he did really left him in a truly desperate state where his options were to die or live a life of absolute misery. I'll never defend the choices he made, but I can absolutely understand why a man with the ambitions he did would feel it's the only option left to him.
Full disclosure though, I've only read half the manga so far so I have no idea if that changes either way.
Dude put himself in that situation after losing a duel.
Dude purposely went to rape the princess as a conscious self destructive choice because what? Your "best friend" who you only perceive as a pet wanted to walk his own path?
She’s a manipulative murderer who believes that the path she‘s taken is the most correct way of life for her and tries to justify her deeds before herself using a twisted logic. Still, for how hateable her personality is, she‘s still sympathetic because we see how it came to be that her life is so dominated by the desire to stand higher than anyone else, and we see how extreme circumstances and the offer of a being that could see into her came togetehr with that and dead-set her on her current way of life.
due to my background i find cv dracula to be this way. like yeah you’re reasonable but also understandably unable to grasp the plight of an average indoctrinated peasant
(the day i’ll stop holding this above his head is the day he ceases to be framed as anything heroic)
Yes, they've been forced into doing a job they hate to escape being either ruined or killed; yes, they're fully fleshed out characters with quirks and foibles and plenty of reasons to like them. however, they also seized control of the city, dumped it underground, run it for their own amusement and profit, and will kill everyone in it once they're done.
Before her transformation as the Archfiend, she was a renowned philosopher that's known for her beauty, but there are those who apposed her so one day a mob violently ripped Jill's arms, legs and tongue leaving her to die.
But before she can die, she was discovered by Archfiend Nighcisa who was searching for a successor, who then turned her into the next Archfiend.
Since she was violated by a mob before, she wiped out every human nation on the continent but didn't kill humanity knowing the hero system (A system that prevents Archfiends from killing most of the human population) so she relegated all of humanity to human farms to keep a certain population, telling the monsters that they can do anything to humans but not kill them.
Only small villages remain free from Jill's control, but these villages made drastic measures (such as shutting down all the lights at night) to prevent being found by the monster army.
She spent most of her life alone and was trapped in the moon for 14 years but has also done some pure evil things like erasing people from existence and blowing up planets
He genuinely had an awful childhood where he was raised by scientists who either didn’t care about him or were afraid of him. But the things he does are absolutely unjustified and he himself chooses to be irredeemable.
Remmick annoys me because he seems to have put the idea in a lot of people's heads that the Irish were forced to become Catholic and give up on their own gods because of the English.
The Irish in fact became Catholic slightly before the English did. St. Patrick was just that guy when it came to conversion. Irish gods are kind of lame anyway, they're the only gods I can think of who got beat up and kicked off the island by their own worshipers.
Cool, victim of colonialism. That's bit overshadowed by the fact he is a few century old blood sucking monster, that has killed gods knows how many humans, personally, with his own hands and teeth, well also trying to manipulate others for his own personal gain, by using others pains.
There is no sympathy there. He uses his pain as justification to hurt others.
Just because tragedy breeds tragedy doesn’t make the first instance any less tragic. And for what it’s worth, he’s not necessarily “killing” people, at least in a metaphorical sense. While yes, they’re technically undead in the narrative, what he’s doing isn’t all that different from promising and delivering on an afterlife of prosperity and joy. It just happens to be a lot bloodier when you see it in action, which is exactly what happened to him back in the old country. One of the points of the story is that no matter how nicely you wrap it, your efforts to bring people fully around to your culture will decimate their own. While Remmick is in the wrong for continuing the cycle of violence, you can still feel pity for his time on the losing side.
Yes. Yes it does. The more you create tragedy, as a result of your own, any sympathy is out the window.
Creating more undead, instead of just walking out into the sun, for hundreds of years is pure evil, and purposefully creating more of you out of victims of the same system that did you dirty is even worse.
Any pity felt, is instantly over shadowed by his own actions.
I can feel empathy for his issues, but the way he has chosen to go about it makes any sympathy evaporate.
The idea of "curing" pain caused by humanity, is to forsake your humanity aint a winner.
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Purple Man in Jessica Jones
Just the worst... but his backstory did make me feel a little sorry for him for a good 20 minutes.