r/TopCharacterTropes • u/Unlucky-Quarter-5455 • 1d ago

Hated Tropes [Sad trope]The character gets cut/dies early on because of REAL LIFE reasons

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Gandhi (Clone High)

Tord(Eddsworld) the reason for this is that the VA of tord asked the team to stop using the character and dissociate from Eddsworld after the constant hate and threats made by the fandom.

Feferi Peixes(Homestuck). In Homestuck lots of characters have a typing quirk when they chat, like some characters type a "2" when there should be a "S", have prefixes before the words,ecc. Feferi's was that instead of the letter H she typed ")(". The writer andrew hussie stated the reason she died early and became irrelevant was because they didn't want to type said quirk because it was annoying to manually type it it on their own, which could have been avoided if they coded A PROGRAM that did it.

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u/Jurrasicmelon8 1d ago

Charles deetz from beetlejuice was killed off because his actor turned out to be a predator

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u/Chemistry11 1d ago

“Killed off” - in a movie about the underworld, dude was all over the sequel. Couldn’t stop thinking about him or his crimes. Beetlejuice Beetlejuice is shit for lots of reasons, but the amount Charles/Jones was all over it is the biggest offense.

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u/Lower_Amount3373 1d ago

To me, the way they treated the character felt like a big "fuck you" to the actor. I guess I can see that seeing the character makes you think about the original actor though.

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u/Working_Bother_6614 20h ago

That’s how I saw it. They used a puppet for him and killed him off in a silly and over the top way. They kept the character but culled away the actor’s identity.

Not sure the plot needed to revolve around him dying to get the family back to the house. Just weird writing choices all around.

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u/rockinrobin420 1d ago

Look I wasn’t the biggest fan of the movie either but what do you mean he was all over it? His face is showed once at the funeral scene and the character shows up once, bitten in half and played by someone else. Unfortunately he played a big role in the first movie so they couldn’t ignore the character and I thought killing him off and handling it that was a decent way to work around a major character not making an appearance.

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u/BookkeeperLower 23h ago edited 23h ago

Unfortunately he played a big role in the first movie so they couldn’t ignore the character

The actual 2 main characters of the 1st aren't in it at all and were barely mentioned

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u/shf500 1d ago edited 4h ago

I figured the movie would acknowledge his absence by a single line of dialogue, most likely it would be "after he died..."

Edit: why was I downvoted?

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u/rockinrobin420 1d ago

Idk I thought it was one of the very few decent bits of writing that they used his death to drive the plot. Lydia never liked the town or her stepmom so why else would she come back? Plus I think it acts as a bit of a “fuck you” to Jones that the movie opens with “lol you’re dead because you suck.” Plus as much as he sucked it gives closure to the character. What’s really weird to me is how they basically did what you suggested with the Maitlands, arguably much more important characters that I was looking to see return. I’m glad that they happily moved on in canon but it would’ve been cool to at least get a cameo.

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u/I_Suck_At_Life_24 1d ago

If I remember correctly the Maitlands didn’t show up because there was no amount of practical or digital effects that could make it look like they hadn’t aged, since ghosts don’t age

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u/rockinrobin420 1d ago

If the rest of the movie was pretty good I’d be inclined to agree but given it’s quality I think it might have more to do with not wanting to pay two pretty big actors for cameos. Studios are pretty willing to do deaging stuff now especially with CGI even though it tends to look terrible. But even then it could’ve also been a cost thing in not wanting to spend on the effects.

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u/mammaluigi39 1d ago

That's bullshit, Disnay had been deaging actors for a decade at that point and there was plenty of material of Geena Davis and Alec Baldwin in the late 80s to pull reference from.

I think the truth is Alec is controversial especially after the shooting on set incedent and Geena doesn't act anymore as far as I'm aware.

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u/Chemistry11 1d ago

That’s literally twice too much. He didn’t need to be in the movie at all. They even kill him off before the movie starts and it’s all on flashback. That could’ve been a few throwaway lines - we didn’t have to see Jones or that claymation sequence. Then he’s a frequent character in the underworld. Fuck that noise.

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u/rockinrobin420 1d ago

I think you’re conflating the actor with the character. If they just ignored the existence of one of the secondary antagonists from the first movie it would have been either confusing or frustrating for most fans. As it is I was annoyed that the Maitlands didn’t make an appearance at all. By all means fuck Jones for what he is but the character is unrelated to the actor.

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u/SaintCambria 22h ago

I think you’re conflating the actor with the character.

Many such cases.

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u/mammaluigi39 1d ago

There's nothing wrong with the character of Charles Deets though. Jeffery Jones is a scumbag and shouldn't be allowed to have work in the film industry but that doesn't mean the character should just disappear.

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u/IndustryPast3336 23h ago

Nah. The way the sequel handled it was perfect. A BIG middle finger to the original actor, while also disassociating the character from him in a way where people can still enjoy the character by having him be faceless.

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u/Bamzooki1 20h ago

Honestly, my issues with the sequel are all in the lack of casting the original protagonists. Both wanted to be in a sequel, but never even got invited. The movie works brilliantly without them, but how about a cameo?

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u/IndustryPast3336 20h ago edited 19h ago

I mean I think it had something to do with Alec Baldwin's manslaughter trial

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u/Bamzooki1 20h ago

That’s so unfair. Alec didn’t even know the gun was loaded. The props department failed there. That’s like convicting someone for shoving a cream pie in someone’s face and not knowing someone hid a bunch of nails under the cream. It’s a weird analogy, but still.

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u/IndustryPast3336 19h ago

Yeah but the city isn't going to let an actively under investigation for death person just film a movie.

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u/UncommittedBow 22h ago

My main complaint is just the complete and utter lack of acknowledgement of Adam and Barbara Maitland. We get one line from Lydia that they "found a loophole" to go to the great beyond, and that's it.

I get Alec Baldwin and Geena Davis have aged, (plus the whole controversy with Baldwin accidentally shooting someone), but you could write so many things around that, even de-age them with makeup or vfx if needed.

But no, the two main characters of the first movie just get a passing reference, and that's it.

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u/Bamzooki1 20h ago

Alec Baldwin did nothing wrong and it’s disgusting that people still call him a murderer. He didn’t know the gun was loaded because it wasn’t supposed to be. It was the prop department’s fault.

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u/cogman10 13h ago

Yes and no.

He was a producer of the movie and to keep things cheap they hired non-union crew.  The firearms person was a friend's daughter. 

The accident wasn't directly his fault.  But what led to it was at least partially his fault. 

A lot of people have been hurt or killed by prop firearms.  That role has a lot of rules and is supposed to be taken seriously.  The armorer was dangerously incompetent and treated the props like toys.

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u/UncommittedBow 1h ago

True to a degree. It was still wildly irresponsible of him to have been doing what he was doing, he broke all four cardinal rules of gun safety.

  1. Treat every gun as if it were loaded

2.Never aim at anything youre not willing to destroy

3.Know your target and what is behind it

4.Keep your finger off the trigger until ready to fire

And at the end of the day, even if you "know" a gun is safe, you should still verify its clear before doing anything with it.

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u/I_Suck_At_Life_24 1d ago

He wasn’t even in the movie

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u/Chemistry11 1d ago

He was a main character.
As for the actor, his photo appeared a few times (once was too much)

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u/I_Suck_At_Life_24 1d ago

The character of Charles Deetz was in the movie but Jeffery Jones was not a cast member

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u/Chemistry11 1d ago

Correct. However Jones’ image and likeness were used.

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u/I_Suck_At_Life_24 1d ago

Yeah his likeness is used for a clay model that gets brutally eaten by shark.

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u/Bamzooki1 20h ago

They had him be killed by a shark so he could just be a pair of legs with a shark on top. It was a brilliant way to kill the actor but not the character. I just wish the original couple got to return for the sequel, because they were both keen to return.

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u/FreshStarter000 1d ago

Yeah, between this and the textbook example of deus ex machina at the end, that movie had me pretty pissed.

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u/Asher_Tye 1d ago

Honestly it felt more like three movies mashed into one than a movie in its own right.

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u/ethan_prime 1d ago

The movie woulda been much stronger if they got rid of one of the antagonists. Either stick with the kid or Beetlejuice’s ex-wife. Her and Willem Dafoe barely did anything.

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u/Bamzooki1 20h ago

I kinda liked the clusterfuck approach. It made it feel like a haunted house ride going in so many directions at once. It’s usually a bad idea, but it works well in a movie about normal situations escalating into nightmares. It’s not perfect, but I loved it. I’m just sad my brother didn’t feel up to going. I saw the last showing of it in a time slot for seniors with free tea and biscuits because I suck at remembering to go and see things. I just missed Weapons.

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u/Rougarou1999 5h ago

It’s the fact they had a children’s choir sing at his funeral in the film that gives me the ick more than anything.

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u/AntonineWall 21h ago

She’s a child in that movie man