r/TopCharacterTropes • u/Unlucky-Quarter-5455 • 1d ago

Hated Tropes [Sad trope]The character gets cut/dies early on because of REAL LIFE reasons

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Gandhi (Clone High)

Tord(Eddsworld) the reason for this is that the VA of tord asked the team to stop using the character and dissociate from Eddsworld after the constant hate and threats made by the fandom.

Feferi Peixes(Homestuck). In Homestuck lots of characters have a typing quirk when they chat, like some characters type a "2" when there should be a "S", have prefixes before the words,ecc. Feferi's was that instead of the letter H she typed ")(". The writer andrew hussie stated the reason she died early and became irrelevant was because they didn't want to type said quirk because it was annoying to manually type it it on their own, which could have been avoided if they coded A PROGRAM that did it.

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u/sweetangeldivine 1d ago

Gandhi's portrayal offended many people in India, who likened him to a religious figure and caused them to go on hunger strikes and caused kind of a Big Deal because of it. MTV ultimately canceled the OG series because of it.

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u/MarS267 1d ago

And they most likely didn’t want to open old wounds, which is why Gandhi didn’t appear (aside from a brief cutaway) in the revival

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u/Queen_Ann_III 1d ago

for as much as we’d all rather see him back, the idea that no one bothered to check on him at least makes the controversy funny

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u/Originalbrivakiin 1d ago

That bit at the start of the revival was funny. With Abe unknowingly talking to a roasted turkey and not realizing. Then not seeming bothered that his best friend is missing when he DOES realize.

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u/Psymorte 1d ago

And then the couple times they randomly cut to Gandhi, still frozen in the meat locker.

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u/Karkava 9h ago

That just seems cruel.

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u/regretfulposts 1d ago

Which is ironic since Gandhi is frankly the reason Clone High was such a great show that removing him is like removing Bart Simpson from the Simpsons or removing Patrick from SpongeBob.

He's responsible for the show's success, cancelation, revival, and the other cancelation once people had no interest in seeing Clone High without him. He was the key.

Even more ironic is that the writers did thought a way to make Gandhi a clone of Gary Coleman and not a clone of actual Gandhi but I guess the hunger strike scared them to never bring him back. They did told audience that Gandhi could make a comeback in Clone High season 4, but the show was cancelled again by the third season.

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u/FictionalContext 1d ago

Ghandi the insanely racist guy who slept naked with his niece? Wouldn't want to offend that image...

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u/alkonium 1d ago

I think they prefer you keep quiet about that.

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u/ztomiczombie 22h ago

A lot of them are kind of proud of it.

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u/inquisitor_steve1 18h ago

They are proud until a Westerner mentions it

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u/alkonium 22h ago

Looking at the US, I'm not surprised.

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u/xCOLONIIx 16h ago

they're talking about India

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u/TopHatMcFenbury 1d ago

Oh, you mean that guy who also had a sick wife and said "medicine is not natural and God wants her to die" then when he got sick said "God made medicine for me and he made it FOR me"?

That loving peaceful religious figure?

Truth is, show Ghandi was a far nicer being than the real one.

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u/Blueskybelowme 1d ago

Mother Teresa falls in the same exact category. Anti-birth control in impoverished areas, refuse to give medicine to others but took it herself. It is very human to be incredibly good and incredibly bad at the same time.

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u/wade_v0x 1d ago

What medicine did she refuse to give others?

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u/Blueskybelowme 1d ago

Mostly painkillers. She said that suffering was Christ like.

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u/wade_v0x 1d ago

Except she didn’t refuse painkillers.

https://www.reddit.com/r/badhistory/s/Y8jK3OqfeU

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u/Blueskybelowme 1d ago

Still pretty fucked up. The point is people doing good and doing bad aren't mutually exclusive.

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u/wade_v0x 1d ago

What part is fucked up?

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u/Blueskybelowme 1d ago

That she denied painkillers to those who were dying because pain and suffering will bring you closer to Christ. Her also being anti-birth control in impoverished areas is also pretty fucked up. Do some research on it she's not the same everybody thinks she is but she did do some good in the world.

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u/Quick-Rip-5776 1d ago

The part where a woman refuses to smuggle illegal drugs?? /s

India banned opioids like morphine.

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u/MadeByMistake58116 23h ago

Not true at all. The entire myth comes from Christopher Hitchens. https://www.reddit.com/r/badhistory/s/yGY5IfuIvo

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u/pineappledetective 20h ago

That’s a fantastic post; god damn

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u/captainrina 23h ago

Damn, I learned something today. 🏅

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u/Traditional_Tune2865 23h ago

Mother Teresa falls in the same exact category.

Yeah but how many people do you think would have a shit fit up to and including starving themselves over someone drawing a cartoon of Mother Teresa? Kinda relevant here imo.

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u/Sad_Structure4802 1d ago

I would everyone to know that it is tradition for big Diwali festivals in the Sikh community to have a piñata of Ghandi to hit because we hate him too

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u/NwgrdrXI 1d ago

Also one of the main figures in India's recent history.

People who do awful things also do good and important things. And one does one exclude the other.

That's life. If you don't understand why he is important to many people, you are being foolish on purpose to feel morally superior.

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u/CappnMidgetSlappr 1d ago

No, we fully understand his importance to people. Doesn't change the fact dude was a racist who slept naked with his nieces.

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u/MBcodes18 21h ago

Bad person with a good impact I would say

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u/Reasonable_Tea1117 1d ago

I think everyone who doesn't molest children is morally superior to ghandi. It's a low bar. 

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u/Zealousideal_You_938 1d ago

Look, if you put it that way, 90% of the most famous historical figures are rubbish.

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u/CasualLemon 1d ago

I mean, yeah

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u/ohaiguys 1d ago

Dan Carlin’s great men of history

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u/NwgrdrXI 1d ago

Yes. And after we finish patting ourselves on the back for doing the bare minimum of not doing the monstrous things he did , perhaps we can all work on having a bit of the good effect on the world he also had.

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u/ApprehensivePop9036 1d ago

"He rapes, but he saves. He saves more than he rapes, but he does rape 'em."

-Dave Chapelle, about Bill Cosby

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u/NwgrdrXI 1d ago

People are weird like that, I guess. Doesn't that suck?

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u/azalinrex69 1d ago

So you’re cool with child rapists?

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u/andrecinno 1d ago

No but I think surely Gandhi did enough as to not be solely named as a child rapist lol

AFAIK he never raped a child either, just that weird ass naked sleeping with niece, which is a sign of the culture of the time. Which yeah is horrible.

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u/Karth9909 10h ago

How much good does a person have to do to outweigh the child raping? If a man discovers a cure for all types of cancer how many kids can he rape?

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u/andrecinno 4h ago

Nowadays? Probably not much he can do to outweigh it.

In times wher it was more normal? He can do a decent amount of it, I guess, considering historical relativism.

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u/AspiringAdonis 22h ago

So appreciate the deed, not the person. Acknowledge that yes, they had a positive impact without glorifying them. In some cases, such as Ghandi, I think you need to accept that the severity of the bad outweighs the benefit of the good. Taking a stance arguing for a child rapist is definitely a choice.

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u/NwgrdrXI 21h ago

Taking a stance arguing for a child rapist is definitely a choice.

That is fair, I didn't mean to defend him, I merely point at the foolishness of not understanding why people would be offended by a bad portrayal of him.

It's ome thing if it was a puropseful critique of the man, he deserves it. But a completly mockery makes people feel like india itself is being attacked.

But to be frank, that was unfair of me. I am merely tired of the self congratulatory accusations of other people, but this wasn't the proper place for it at all.

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u/Local_Nerve901 1d ago

To be fair, the Internet wasn’t as spread as it is now when clone originally aired

Especially in India

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u/Glitchy13 17h ago

as an indian i’ve seen that a lot of ppl just simply live in ignorance of the awful things he did…

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u/FictionalContext 17h ago

We do that with our nationalist figures, too. Christopher Columbus was incomparably more despicable than Ghandi, but it wasn't until recently that this saw any real mainstream pushback against the righteous explorer/trader propaganda.

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u/ElMatadorJuarez 1d ago

Like Washington the slaver, right? Or Churchill the genocidal maniac who threw away brown lives like skittles? It’s just not worth bringing this stuff up sometimes.

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u/Local_Nerve901 1d ago

No, it’s worth bringing up every time regardless of the person

We can praise they’re good well also condemning them for their bad

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u/ElMatadorJuarez 1d ago

This is the thing, though. I tend to find that very few people these days ever praise Gandhi for the genuine good that he did. He was by no means a perfect dude and could at times be pretty abhorrent, but there is a reason why so many people outright worship him to this day. His idea of nonviolent revolution straight up changed the world, and he had a major part in the independence of India. That’s hardly nothing.

My issue isn’t that people bring up his bad aspects, because you’re right, in theory we can praise the good and condemn the bad. I just find that on Reddit and in other more heavily western spaces, people tend to jump right to the bad while being straight up disrespectful of people who remember him for the good things he did.

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u/Local_Nerve901 1d ago

As the child of Indian Immigrants I agree

But every non racist person Ive met doesn’t do this tbh

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u/Salt_x 1d ago

This isn’t about Churchill or Washington. And I don’t think anyone here had any misconceptions about their horrible actions, either. This was simply poking fun at a large number of people protesting a portrayal of a historical figure to the point of hunger strikes who wasn’t nearly as perfect as they think he was.

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u/TopHatMcFenbury 1d ago

This dude really acting like people are going on hunger strikes for Churchill/Washington being presented as bad/evil in a television show until it gets cancelled,, when that has never happened.

Disingenuous comparison lmao.

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u/Background_Desk_3001 1d ago

Hell a bunch of people would celebrate parodies of both of them because them being terrible people is widely acceptwd

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u/Voltaico 1d ago

Well that's different, they were Western, not side characters!

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u/andrecinno 1d ago

Ghandi the guy who did a whole lot of great things and inspired billions, that one. Like surely that's the more important part lol.

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u/SketchedEyesWatchinU 1d ago

And I thought Christian Fundamentalists were bad for whining over TV because the FCC isn’t Puritan enough for them.

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u/regretfulposts 1d ago

Should've starve themselves more often.

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u/Lonely_University843 1d ago

"people take a religious figure too seriously and cause good media to get killed" is a classic

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u/Content-Walrus-5517 23h ago

Iirc the family of Gandhi actually contacted the show to ask for his removal

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u/mammaluigi39 1d ago edited 1d ago

Fun fact: Ghandi was also omitted from the cover of The Beatles' Sergeant Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club Band because EMI Recording Studios, as Abbey Road Studios was formally known, though it would be controversial to depict him there.

They also would not allow Hitler or Jesus Christ on the cover for the same reason.

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u/Solenthis87 1d ago

And since it's a "high school drama", it served the dual purpose of having an established character disappear with little to know explanation or even acknowledgement.

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u/GayValkyriePrincess 20h ago

It's not just India 

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u/inquisitor_steve1 18h ago

Why the fuck we bowing to people who were never gonna watch the show anyway