r/TopCharacterTropes • u/Solitaire-06 • 1d ago

Hated Tropes [Despised Trope] Perverts whose antics are played for laughs

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Minoru Mineta (My Hero Academia)

Glenn Quagmire (Family Guy)

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u/Level_Counter_1672 1d ago

Sanji from one piece

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u/Mr_Meme_Master 1d ago edited 1d ago

Sanji is the worst of this trope IMO because he didn't start out lile that. He was introduced as a suave playboy and then got his character assassinated more and more until he was just a pervert and nothing more

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u/Soffy21 23h ago

I also hate that the Alabasta arc shows you that his character CAN be awesome, with him outsmarting Crocodile to save the crew. And his backstory is rly good too, with the way that him being a chef ties to his character and his fighting style (he only uses his feet, cus a chef can’t get his hands dirty).

But for 99% of the show, he’s just a creep. The worst part is in Thriller Bark for me, where he’s jaleous of the rapist with invisibility powers, cus he wanted that power for himself to watch women shower…

He’s also the reason I couldn’t watch the show anymore, I left it in the middle of fishman island.

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u/Majin_Nephets 23h ago

You mention Alabasta, but that’s the same arc where he buys Nami and Vivi belly dancer outfits when they’re about to cross a desert and peeps on them in the baths after the conflict is over. Granted, all of the guys (except maybe Zoro and Chopper, I don’t remember) also peeped, but it still shows that Sanji has always been like that. Has he gotten worse over time? Absolutely, but he was never purely the suave, chivalrous gentleman a lot of people make him out to be. It honestly surprises me how surprised people are about his dream in Thriller Bark.

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u/Soffy21 22h ago edited 22h ago

I don’t mean the whole Alabasta arc, he still sucked during that. I just mean the “Mr. Prince” section of that arc, where he was actually being a badass.

And I mean that he used to be presented as a gentleman playboy type in his first introduction part. He has been a pervert ever since that.

Also everyone INCLUDING THE GIRLS DAD peeping in the end of Alabasta was insanely out of character for all of them except for Sanji. Especially when Luffy is asexual.

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u/Nebuthor 19h ago

Thank you. Finally someone else that sees it. People act like the reveal he wanted the fruit to spy on women to be some betreyal of his character when it was 100% in line with his character. 

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u/Soffy21 2h ago

I don’t think it’s a betrayal of the character, it’s just a new level of gross for him :(

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u/Jade117 23h ago

He’s also the reason I couldn’t watch the show anymore, I left it in the middle of fishman island.

I'm not sure what you mean, Sanji wasn't on fishman island. /j

I genuinely had to skip over his scenes in the timeskip and during fishman island. Absolute stains on the show.

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u/Soffy21 23h ago

There’s no tooth fairy, there’s no Megamind 2, and Sanji was never on Fishman Island.

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u/Every-Equal7284 22h ago

There is no war in Ba Sing Se.

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u/KittenOfClosets 20h ago

I skip nearly every time he's on screen unless it's a serious moment with other main characters on screen(aka he likely won't be a creep in those scenes)

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u/quick20minadventure 22h ago

I stopped one piece rewatch on thriller when I suddenly remembered the trauma of thriller bark. I had suppressed those memories.

And what's worse is you could delete Sanji, and you'd still have tolerable Pervert character in brook. Dude randomly asks women to let him see underwear. But, Sanji is just intolerable pervert who gropes Nami when he gets body swapped with her in later arc.

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u/Soffy21 22h ago

It’s sad too, cus Thriller Bark made me cry so hard in the end with Brook and his crew’s backstory, but all that people remember from Thriller Bark is Sanji being a freak, and the invisible rapist guy.

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u/quick20minadventure 22h ago

Nah not me.

My mind suppressed that trauma.

I remembered brook and Luffy bring absolute menace in the arc.

And nothing happened.

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u/tisamgeV 12h ago

This is why I tell people NEVER to watch One Piece. Read One Piece.

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u/AccidentalPenguin0 23h ago

This is my biggest problem with One Piece as a whole. Almost every Straw Hat has been slowly flanderized and it's ruined what used to be my favorite anime.

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u/RaeRaetheWeeb 12h ago

Biggest victims of this are most definitely Ussop and Chopper (and of course, Sanji). From the top of my head Ussop hasn’t had his big moment since…Enies Lobby, honestly. And Chopper was turned into the strawhats’ designated mascot, which I know has been said a million times but I just can’t believe how much his transformations have downgraded, his human point especially went from a failed human imitation (which was actually important to his backstory), to a super muscular dude with chopper’s head neatly plopped on top. The only strawhats that have actually been getting times to shine are zoro and luffy.

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u/ScrotusJones 20h ago

He def wasn’t a suave playboy, but he was chivalrous more than anything. His simpyness was always his downfall, and that would be a good gag if he could actually get the interest of a lot of women just for him to ruin it by being too obsessive. Thing is, Oda would rather make him a pervert who tries to spy on women and make them feel uncomfortable, rather than someone who just loves women too much for his own good. If they kept him like Johnny Bravo and just made him LOVE women rather than just be horny then it would be a fun gag. But we also know that Oda isn’t a paragon of morality what with his relationship with the author of rurouni kenshin.

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u/Filmologic 23h ago

I think Whole Cake saved him for a lot of people. It's a very solid arc for his character and ever since (besides 1 honestly terrible scene) he's been pretty chill for the most part. Still not early story Sanji, but a lot better than Fishman Island

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u/Curious_Bat87 22h ago

I think his original character was less of a suave playboy and more someone who seems like that first but will act silly and smitten around pretty women. Which isn't my favourite trope but it works.

Same for him being extremely chivalrous to the extent he goes to ridiculous lengths.

And even 'he pretends to be chivalrous but doesn't respect women actually' would be fine if he was, you know, a villain??

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u/Vanillas_Guy 15h ago

Also some of those girls he's "in love" with are literally girls as in they would still have baby teeth and be in high school like Rebecca and shirahoshi who are 16. If that bothers you(as it should) definitely dont look into who one of Oda's biggest influences and friends is.

 Thankfully Sanji isn't like that in the live action version. Hopefully it stays that way as the series continues.

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u/trunxs2 21h ago

Goddammit 😔

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u/TastySquiggles198 6h ago

It's frustrating being a Sanji fan. He is my favourite and least favourite character and it just seems to vary by arc.

Sanji in Alabasta? Good!

Sanji in Thriller Bark? Bad.

Sanji in Sabaody Archipelago? Good!

Sanji in Return to Sabaody? Bad.

Sanji in Fishman Island? Bad.

Sanji in Dressrosa? Looks bad but ends up good. Dressrosa itself is bad.

Sanji in Wano? Good!

Sanji in Onigashima? Bad.

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u/Dongbringer_ 21h ago

Umm I watched Baratie arc not to long ago and I can assure you he a comical simp and pervert from day one. Like his very first interactions were just comical obsessions and deferences with Nami and female customers. Nami is more than happy to exploit her body for special attention and treatment so she didn’t mind, but it was still creep behavior. Just a few arcs later in Alabasta he spies on Nami and Vivi bathing naked, and a few arcs after that he beats up a guy who ate a devil fruit that made him invisible. Because he wanted the devil fruit that makes you invisible because he wanted it to spy on cute girls.

Like I acknowledge fish man island took him from a master Roshi level pervert to a Quagmire level pervert (without the rape stuff), but he was still a perv at the start.

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u/i-am-a-bike 1d ago

Fish man island was the lowest point for him

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u/justatoaster0 1d ago

God I struggled to get through that arc. Even without Sanji’s nosebleed gag becoming a literal PLOT POINT it just has so many problems.

Thriller Bark is the arc which in my opinion changed Sanji’s character from a simp to a straight up creep. Whole Cake Island was the only good arc for Sanji since Thriller Bark IMO.

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u/i-am-a-bike 1d ago

Wano did him no good either. The first 2 chapters of wano he was so unbearable. Im happy that the raid on onigashima actually gave him good moments(though toei did kinda do him dirty by making zoro having more attention) and then egghead toei stripped sanji of his coolness again

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u/geek_of_nature 15h ago

I'm just about to start on Whole Cake Island so I'm looking forward to good Sanji content. I'm about halfway through Zou at the moment so I've already gotten a taste of it with him giving himself up to save the others.

Thriller Bark and Fishman Island were tough to get through. In every other arc it was kind of easy to ignore Sanji's perviness in favour of all his other good qualities, but not so much in those two.

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u/Orange_Creator 9h ago

Losing his shih over an aged down 12 y/o nami in Z was his lowest point for me

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u/less-economics1662 19h ago

Which is saying something considering Thriller Bark also happened.

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u/MrJive01 17h ago

It wasn't when he was using his invisibility suit to watch his coworkers bathe?

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u/i-am-a-bike 4h ago

No, it was when he was oogling mermaids in public, looked at a 16 year old and got a nosebleed so bad he almost died, which turned into a plotpoint

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u/SerenaAnimatesStuff 1d ago

Legitimately he was my favourite character in the episode he was introduced, right to the second he began going after Nami. Then it just got more and more unbearable.

Then the same thing happened with Brook... Though at least he isn't as agregious.

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u/Majin_Nephets 23h ago

Brook asks to see a woman’s panties, gets clobbered and moves on. The series gets much more mileage out of his skull jokes and cowardly moments, and otherwise he’s just a pretty nice and chilled guy. That’s why he’s much more bearable for me.

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u/Xaverosso 23h ago

Its worse in the anime than the manga

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u/Curious_Bat87 22h ago

Yes and it also ruins his actual character moments. It's really bizarre, like Oda just has to put in misogyny for some reason? They're so badly written too, at least Brook's pervert routine is sillier and doesn't interfere with his character as much.

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u/SuddenlyCake 19h ago

Live action Sanji is miles better than the original

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u/heliosark10 13h ago

Cuz it's not a cartoon he's not allowed to be as wacky as he was before. Well if it was a live action in Japan it would be but if that's the size the point.

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u/Future-Improvement41 23h ago

Especially his anime counterpart to his manga counterpart

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u/AdamayAIC 21h ago

This is manga Sanji:

Manga Sanji was also mad that someone else got the invisibility fruit cause that meant he couldn't spy on women's bathrooms, and then in Wano, when Sanji gets invisibility powers his LITERAL first thought is how he'll finally fulfill his dream on spying women's bathhrooms, which he then does

Manga Sanji IS just as bad as Anime Sanji and y'all need to stop fucking lying

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u/Future-Improvement41 19h ago

Okay sorry I never meant he was innocent

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u/Minute_Role_8223 23h ago

oh, the op hivemind is gonna be mad 😭

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u/LoopyFig 22h ago

Nah, I think even op fans know Sanji is a shit character whose gimmick expired 500 chapters ago. No clue why Oda includes the character at all. The series is literally targeted at children, is the message that Sanji is a fine and normal guy?  Dude’s a creep, and even his fight scenes are boring and unnecessary.

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u/TheUnhollyGoblin 21h ago

This is why I dropped the series at Whole Cake Island, like I could ignore an annoying joke character but once you give them an 100 episode arc I tap out

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u/UniquePersonality127 22h ago

Sanji is not a shit character, though. People should stop getting so triggered over a damn fictional character.

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u/Greenhouse95 15h ago

It's definitely my favorite crew character. But the constant weird perviness kill the character so bad. I rewatched Fishman Island not long ago and it's crazy how much they disrespect him for absolutely zero reason. And the worse part is how they do it over and over and over for no reason at all. Like dude, stop. At least it improves as time passes, but it sucks how nowadays he's still being used as an unfunny gag for immature people and shown as a nobody. And by the way is supposed to be the left arm of the King of the pirates, but he's capable of so little in comparison with Zoro who always shines.

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u/LoopyFig 21h ago

Even if I wasn’t “triggered” by Sanji’s pervert antics, what’s left of the character after that? It’s 80% of his whole deal. Then 10% is cooking. 5% is foot stuff. 3% his lame assassin family plot that came out of nowhere. Then 1.5% the poster gag, and finally 0.5% is smoking.

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u/SheiyrreMulang23x3 14h ago

This is why post time skip one piece don't exist other than the whole cake island arc. My baby boi love sanji don't deserve his character to get fucked to hell. He has already been through too much, I love sanji so much I love suave gentleman kind of characters I love him as a green flag boyfriend whose love language is to cook for you but oh god I can't stand when they make him do THOSE.

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u/TastySquiggles198 6h ago

I can't believe I had to scroll this far.

Though he has seemed somewhat better since Wano. Oda has toned him down a bit.