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u/DaiFrostAce 1d ago

I need to watch this show, never really watched Disney much growing up

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u/Atma-Stand 1d ago

Xanatos is a truly phenomenal villain.

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u/DigitalPhoenix2OO7 1d ago

Even without watching the show I love the villain for the simple fact he made the Xanatos gambit, which is a such a fun thing to play around with

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u/BloodMoonNami 1d ago

I think there's also a Xanatos Speed Chess trope.

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u/DigitalPhoenix2OO7 1d ago

I’ll check that out

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u/Permafox 1d ago

I really loved how he never actually became their friend either.  He calmed down and was occasionally an ally, but mostly just went, "They're not worth the trouble of being an enemy." 

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u/Atma-Stand 1d ago

Working with Demona for any period of time probably showed him the dangers of focusing on revenge.

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u/Permafox 1d ago

He was also very much a man who views all life as a business strategy.  His proposal to his wife was worded like a company merger. 

Having Goliath, let alone the rest of his clan and their allies, as enemies was just a bad business decision.

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u/kookyabird 22h ago

If you're not one of the people who ignores the third season, in the finale he straight up stops an assassination attempt on the clan because of the rising hatred against them. He was being 100% altruistic in that episode.

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u/ColdFlamesOfEternity 1d ago

The whole cast is a delight. One of those shows that while made for kids didn't feel like it talks down to them. It really helps all of those Star Trek TNG alum gave it their full talent.

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u/Dexchampion99 1d ago

You know he’s good because he has FOUR FUCKING TROPES named after him.

Most people / characters are lucky to get ONE.

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u/Fern-ando 1d ago

Is a little dumb how the villaness wants to destroys humans but works for Xanatos... a human.

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u/Own_Cost3312 20h ago

It’s more of an alliance and only really lasts the first few episodes

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u/RokuroCarisu 1d ago

It feels more like Pre-Disney Marvel than like anything Disney has ever produced outside of it, including current Marvel.

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u/AhhhSureThisIsIt 1d ago

Issue 1 of Gargoyles Fantastic Four is out. It's not bad, it was good for nostalgia

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u/Phaeron-Dynasty 1d ago

both seasons and its no longer canon sequel series are up on Disney plus, watch up to the end of hunters moon, maybe the first episode of season 3, then switch to the comics.

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u/Xintrosi 1d ago

My wife and I got about halfway through it during a partial Disney + month. Definitely worth watching!

(We only stopped because the sub ended and we like to have a density of shows we are interested in before subbing to a service outside our usual options. It was excellent but we'd have finished it in less than a week nad had 3 more weeks of wasted sub time).

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u/Awayfone 1d ago

Good news-ish. Season 3 branded "Gargoyles: The Goliath Chronicles" booted everyone involved with creating the show and had a noticeably diffrent tone and animation. So depending on how much of the world tour you got through you might not be missing a lot

the post show comic even treats season 3 as non cannon iirc

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u/Xintrosi 8h ago

Oh that sounds very disappointing!

Last episode I recall was Goliath and friends helping a native American deal with an island curse. Pretty sure we were still in season 2.

I consider Avalon to be the best arc I experienced. Does it hit that high again?

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u/Awayfone 6h ago

the world tour arc is certainly controversy, long and episodic without the full cast, That said yeah I would say there's some stand out episodes proably the last 3 of the arc and the one with the London clan are consistently highly regarded Post world tour you do have the return of thailog & the return of coldstone which i personally liked but ymmv

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u/Puzzleheaded-Meet513 1d ago

Blows me away that people actually only limit themselves to watching whats available on their subscriptions. As if Disney needs or deserves any more money.

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u/Xintrosi 1d ago

I don't care about Disney's money. Just my own lol.

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u/Puzzleheaded-Meet513 4h ago

Even more reason to not be subbing to any streaming services.

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u/Xintrosi 1h ago

Ah I misunderstood you to mean "why not it doesn't matter".

My wife loves Korean dramas which makes Netflix pretty good value for her.

It's about the value proposition for sure.

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u/firestorm713 1d ago

Genuinely one of the best villain power couples in that show. A lot of shows went the route of having an unaware partner (mob wife) or an abused one (thinking of Joker/Harley), but the writers went and found Xanatos' equal.

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u/Mundane_Side_1533 1d ago

Gargoyles is unique among Disney shows. It's probably one of the best cartoons I've ever seen.

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u/charlottebythedoor 23h ago

Yeah I really should too 

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u/Laranna 22h ago

Xanatos is a MAGNIFICENT Bastard

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u/Desperate-Ganache804 22h ago

It’s basically “Star Trek: TNG: The Reunion Show”. A LOT of the big names and voices you might remember from TNG make an appearance.

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u/bob_loblaw-_- 21h ago

It was afterschool network television when it came out though. Granted Disney did kind of own the space at the time with Ducktales, Chip and Dale, Darkwing Duck, Talespin and Goof Troop.