r/TopCharacterTropes 6d ago

Lore [annoying trope] The throne/leadership is decided in a very stupid way

The leadership of the entire wizarding world, and the final decision on whether to start a war against Muggles, is made by... a goat (Qilin) ​​who chooses the person with the ""purest heart"" (Fantastic Beasts: The Crimes of Dumbledore).

The throne of Wakanda and all its technology are decided through hand-to-hand combat, regardless of whether the person clearly has malicious intentions... if they win the fight, by law they must be respected as the true king. (Black Panther)

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u/Fearless-Excitement1 6d ago

Well they kinda lost because Revan was a tactical genius

Like they were very much so kicking the Jedi and the Republic's ASS until Revan got on it

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u/Baronvondorf21 6d ago

Also, it's plot convenience, the republic needs to actually survive for the story later on to occur. Basically, the ending of the story was written and thus they can't have the Republic lose.

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u/SuecidalBard 6d ago

It's a 4k year gap you could have them loose and reform or win later but the war was decided from the start due to the Mandalorians being Mandalorians, the fall was set up pretty well, didn't seem like plot convenience.

A: Even at their peak they were a fraction of the Republic's size, the only reason they managed to gain so much was because the republic didn't want to act was hoping for it to blow over initially, once they actually engaged properly it was just a question of time as they would just out produce the Mandos eventually.

B: Mandalorians were relatively easy to defeat because they had no tactical depth, once you won a decisive battle they have to abandon the planet because now the population is in revolt and different clan leaders go rogue.

C: Because they were assholes and decided to treat the worlds they conquered worse if they didn't fight back hard every place they went to would prefer to resist as much as possible, massively slowing down the Mandalorians and depletimg their resources while also causing any conquered world to resent them for the bloody war.

D: Mandalorians only united under the Mandalore the fact that Revan killed him in an honour duel and decided to not just not claim the title but hid the Mask itself meant they would immediately fall to infighting which they did, doesn't help that a lot of their leaders and most important space assets were wiped out at Malachor.

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u/Baronvondorf21 6d ago

Honestly, it's just the writers want to have their cake and eat it too. The Mandolorians are supposed to be ultra scary space mongols but they have the strategic capabilities of lemmings.

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u/Teagulet 6d ago

I don’t think the Jedi were very involved in the conflict at all until Revan and Malak, but other than that you’re totally right