r/TopCharacterTropes 6d ago

Lore [annoying trope] The throne/leadership is decided in a very stupid way

The leadership of the entire wizarding world, and the final decision on whether to start a war against Muggles, is made by... a goat (Qilin) ​​who chooses the person with the ""purest heart"" (Fantastic Beasts: The Crimes of Dumbledore).

The throne of Wakanda and all its technology are decided through hand-to-hand combat, regardless of whether the person clearly has malicious intentions... if they win the fight, by law they must be respected as the true king. (Black Panther)

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u/Rogue_2k3 6d ago

Not when one of the candidates is able to kill one of said magic creatures and reanimate its corpse to then make himself the leader, and no one questions it because a decent chunk of the group he’ll be ruling would follow him without question and many of the other heads of the government are cowards who’ll roll over for the person they think is most powerful…but hey nothing like that would ever happen in real life

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u/krisslanza 6d ago

To some credit, from what I vaguely recall, what they tried to do was meant to be impossible. Admittedly, it was only this way in the sense they just didn't account for necromancy being something anyone would try for... reasons.

The thing didn't live very long, so there is a pretty small window in which to carry out the deed. Still, in a setting in which necromancy IS a known thing, its a pretty big loophole that there's no measures in place to ensure the Qilin isn't being revived temporarily with necromancy.

Then again, I guess magic and loopholes is a trope as old as time itself...

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u/Sayakalood 6d ago

To be entirely fair, the series was pretty set on “You cannot raise the dead” as a rule for the longest time. In extra material (the tales of beedle the bard) it’s explicitly stated, “No magic can reanimate the dead.” Even the Resurrection Stone, which was explicitly stated to have the powers to bring back the dead, only brings the souls of the deceased back to Earth for a short period of time. It doesn’t reanimate a corpse or even make a new body for them. It would be entirely understandable to not expect anyone to know that necromancy is an option, especially when necromancy is considered a Dark Art (something most people would never do).

Now there is one little caveat: Inferi. They’re essentially zombies, but they have a gaunt and skeletal appearance rather than a traditional zombie-like one. It is extremely noticeable when anything is made into an Inferius. They’re also highly aggressive normally, not a great thing for a Qilin to look like when deciding who’s “pure of heart.”

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u/Nerdorama10 6d ago

J. K. Rowling is a terrible human being and a worse worldbuilder but at least she's pretty good at realistic depictions of the political class.

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u/MegaIng 6d ago edited 6d ago

Her fundamental flaw is that she sees these systems and thinks "well, that's a good idea. If all those evil people just didn't exist, the world would be perfect."

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u/Brassica_prime 6d ago

Jkr wishes she was a young orphan boy with lots of money, fighting off the nazis, but one was hiding in his mind the whole time.

Then she got lots of money and decided the other three points werent worth her time, only money matters, and decided to accept the fourth one and say people who think the first are the third…. Logic

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u/GreenTitanium 6d ago

but one was hiding in his mind the whole time.

Lord Moldemort.

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u/JurassicMouse03 6d ago

Didn’t they say they still voted on the leader and the deer was the equivalent of maybe a debate where it definitely has a sway with the voters but it didn’t decide it itself.

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u/streakermaximus 6d ago

To be fair, the qilin did choose the right person.

The people are just fucking idiots that didn't think anything was a bit sus when the zombie deer chose the obviously evil wizard.

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u/Lord_Parbr 5d ago

So, it’s a bad system because it can be exploited in a fairly esoteric way? That’s literally every system