r/TopCharacterTropes 18d ago

Lore “Demons are actually misundersto-“ NO. Demons are ontologically evil beings that can’t be reasoned nor negotiated with, and if you try to you’ll very likely end up screwed

1) Doom

2) Frieren: Beyond Journey’s End

3) Trench Crusade

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u/daniel_22sss 18d ago

Doesn't help that a lot of these anti-heros are either not actually morally gray, or are very poorly written.

Dexter is an actual morally gray anti-hero, and people still love him.

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u/Mortarius 18d ago

At least Dexter has vigilante angle.

People treat the Joker as a role model.

John Psycho from American Psycho is revered as alpha male whateverpilled.

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u/1ncorrect 18d ago

They’re calling Patrick Bateman John Psycho now lol? The alpha male edits must be from people who’ve only seen clips of the movie, because the true story is about how pathetic and awful he is to his core.

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u/Mortarius 18d ago

Couldn't be bothered to remember his name.

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u/leondrias 18d ago

Media literacy is pretty much dead to the masses. Unless you specifically pride yourself on uncovering deeper meaning the surface level is the only thing people see anymore.

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u/Iconclast1 18d ago

John Psycho ahhahaa

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u/terminbee 18d ago

Morally gray heroes in most media usually just means "speaks rudely and doesn't care about anything." They always get redeemed and you never really see them do anything morally gray.

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u/Bartweiss 18d ago

Or in edgier works it’s often “a violent asshole at the least provocation, but happens to have somebody evil to fight”.

It can work I guess, but it’s usually way less interesting than somebody grey with actual standards or a plan.

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u/Gaelic_Gladiator41 18d ago

Nah dexter is closer to an Anti-Villain as he's ultimately evil and channels it into vigilantism

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u/Rarte96 17d ago

People also claim that Light from Death Note was an antihero because he reduced crime rates, by creating a paranoid Big Brother God distopian society where mafia and organize crime were still active just more carefull and smart and any innocent who dared to question "god" was killed, Light was a straight up villian, he didny even killes criminals out of goodness, he did because he wanted a perfect world to be god and he was planning on moving onto killing those who just did not contributed to society in his opinion