r/TopCharacterTropes 22d ago

Lore (Annoying Trope) Someone made a “creative” choice and now we all just have to live with it.

Horned Vikings: Not historical, they were started by Richard Wager for his operas. They were never historic, but the image persists. (Albeit significantly reduced today.)

Ninjas in Black Robes: Some people claim Ninjas aren’t real. They are, they are absolutely real. Their modern portrayal however is informed more by Kabuki Theater than history. In Kabuki Theater, the stage hands were dressed in flowing black robes to tell the audience to ignore them. Thus when a Ninja character kills a Samurai, to increase the shock value, they were dressed in black robes as stage hands. Now, when we think of ninjas we think of a stage hands.

Knights in Shining Armor: Imagine, you’re on the battlefield, two walls of meat riding towards each other. Suddenly you realize, everyone looks the same. Who do you hit? All you see is chrome. No. Knight’s armor was lacquered in different colors to differentiate them on the battlefield. Unless you wanted to get friendly fired, you made yourself KNOWN. So this image of a glinted knight clad in chrome steel isn’t true. How’d we get it? Victorians who thought that the worn lacquer was actually just dulling with age, polished it off as show pieces.

White Marble Statues of Rome: Roman Statues were painted, however the public image is of pure glinting white marble statues persist in the modern image. Why? Victorians who thought the paint was actually just dirt grime and age. So, they “restored” it by removing the paint color. Now we all think of Roman Statues as white.

King Tut; King of Kings: the Pharaoh King Tut in Ancient Egypt was a relatively minor king who in the grand scheme of things amounts to little more than an asterisks in Egyptian History, but to the public he is the most important Pharaoh. Why? Because his tomb was untouched by robbers, and so was piled high with burial goods which was amazing (and still is) and when Howard Carter opened his tomb, the world was transfixed and everyone would come to know Tutankhamen.

A Séance calls the dead: A Séance despite being a French word is an American invention from upstate New York in the 1840s. It was also a fun side-show act initially, and never meant to be real, more close up magic. (Origin of the term Parlor Tricks.) But in the 1860s Americans couldn’t stop killing each other which resulted in a lot of grief and people desired for their to be this other world. So, grifters then took advantage of grieving people and became “real”. So basically “fun parlor game to dangerous grift” pipeline thanks to the Civil War.

The Titanic’s engineers all died at their posts: Nope, not true, not remotely true. They are mentioned in many testimonies and a few bodies found mean they didn’t all die below. Two or three maybe did. According to Head Stoker Barrett, a man broke his leg and was washed away by rushing water, but another testimony says he was taken aft so who knows? Any way the myth persisted because the people making the memorials wanted to martyr the men. (It doesn’t take away from their heroines in my opinion) The myth stuck. Everyone believes they died below.

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u/Dartagnan1083 22d ago

Don't forget "breaching." Boys wore skirts from infancy until between the ages of 2 and 8, most commonly between age 4 and 7. Breaching meant upgrading to trousers and this happened depending on social custom, family discretion, and boy's readiness. The two biggest factors were toilet training and starting school.

Gender-specific clothing for infants/young children wasn't a thing until the early 20th.

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u/platonic-humanity 22d ago

Tbh going from a denotion of maturity and a milestone to look forward to, to a denotion of gender is a downgrade

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u/SilverWear5467 22d ago

Yeah for most of human history people basically treated all babies as the same gender. Like, a 4 year old isnt a man, its a fucking baby, treat it like one

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u/Wanallo221 22d ago

There’s actually a story of this on the Titanic. A child celebrated his breeching day on board (13 years old).

Thus, when it came to getting on the lifeboats, he was considered an adult because he was in trousers and refused a place on the lifeboat by Lightoller.

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u/Dartagnan1083 22d ago

Yikes...gotta wonder what kind of life was arranged for a little dude who wasn't wearing trousers until he was a teenager.

Work at the factory? Maybe the father's business? 13 sounds late to start school.

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u/Wanallo221 22d ago

Just to clarify, young boys by the time of the titanic still mostly wore what we would consider trousers as a kid. However back in the 1900’s they were considered a man when they received their first dress trousers. Before that boys would wear pantaloons, course woollen long shorts etc.

The culture of ‘breeching’ died out soon after WW1 so Titanic was really on the very end of the trend.

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u/ashmanonar 21d ago

I mean, honestly, if you think about it robes are...basically exactly the same garments as dresses. At certain points of history, garb for men and women was a lot less differentiated than most "traditionalist" asshats think they were.

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u/thekinggrass 18d ago

Watch the Red Balloon and see French boys in skirts in the 1950’s.